First off, Welcome to the BAUT Forums, nothingbutme

Let's begin with a look at your post:

First, I'd like a cite on that. Secondly, you have to remember what Project Bluebook was. It was a study of unidentified flying objects. Both a meteor, and a Russian satellite, both qualify as identified. Indeed, as far as Project Blue Book would be concerned, there "is nothing to report" in either version of the story.

That's a little disingenuous, no? NASA never claimed anything different. AKA, NASA never had a story to change from - it is the only explanation they have ever offered. It was the Air Force, not NASA, that offered up an apparently different version of the object found, according to your OP. NASA and the Air Force are two different entities. Military cover-ups are not only known but frequent, and often for good reason. This should surprise noone. However, that does not in any way impact NASA.

Again - making the object recovered at the site not only identified, but identified by an organization independant of the military and who posess the highest credentials. NASA was (and is) supremely qualified to make that assessment. And again, making it irrelevant to Project Bluebook, it being an identified object.

It could be just me, and if it is, I apologize in advance, but the only "Associated Press" stories I could find were merely parrots to some degree of the Sci-Fi Channel press release. This would, for instance, be the same Sci-Fi channel whose mission is to provide entertaining fiction, and whose documentary credentials were long ago shattered with the fake documentary of M. Schmayalan, that they tried to pass off as genuine to pound up publicity for his upcoming movie. You know, speaking of lies and misleading and whatnot.

Sounds reasonable. Do you see any problems there? Given the situation, the Air Force likely took posession of any material and documents, so going after NASA for those is likely barking up the wrong tree.

Mistakes and misplacements do happen. It's dogged the space program since it's inception. There are several members here who can give you a good idea of the particulars, and none of them suggest conspiracies.


"This new..." is purposefully misleading to sound sensational. It's also the ONLY explanation NASA has ever given

The Air Force has demonstrated itself to be, in the past, not above public disinformation to protect top-secret projects or security matters. This has to be hardly surprising to anyone. However, I fail to see why finally discovering it was a satellite is anything scandalous.

Can you provide cites? Any corroborating material? In some quick googling, the only evidence, again, that I could find of this are articles quoting the Sci-Fi Channel press release. We definately need sources to take this seriously.

It's theoretically possible, if we can prove beyond any doubt, that it was impossible for any known or unknown (prior to landing) Russian satellites to re-enter that day, to be skeptical. But this would have to be proven first.

Kean and others can deem it highly questionable that the sky is blue, but that still doesn't change the fact that occasionally things come up missing at NASA. It happens. It's happened before. Likely to happen again. I think the process is akin to what happens to pairs of socks you put in your dryer, and yet only one emerges. As a matter of fact, I think I'll start calling that the NASA syndrome

1) Nothing was recovered that was relevant to Project Blue Book.
2) This has yet to be demonstrated or proven
3) Yep

Directly contradicts 1. 2 is yet to be established as credible.

Eyewitness testimony is notoriously shaky and contradictory. There are likely as many eyewitnesses that will testify it flew straight as an arrow and made nary a sound. This is a well-known phenomena. And once you add aliens or the para-normal in the mix, you have people "remembering" doing alien autopsies, "remembering" pulling little green men out of crash sites, and "remembering" getting anal probes from alien who look remarkably like the ones they just read about it Strieber's "Communion"

Utterly untrue. The space programs of the world are resplendant in thier examples of objects surviving re-entry. Sometimes amazingly intact.

How much do you think it would take? A few parts, a few tiny peices, known to be parts of Soviet satellites would have sufficed. Or even a single, tiny piece engraved or stamped with Soviet writing....

The assumption being made there is by you.

You are assuming there is no one alive that has a direct recollection of the event. You are also assuming they never told anyone there, so that even if they are all gone, nobody there would have been briefed on the info. You also assume that non-technical documents don't exist. There may well be a duty log from that day that mentions "Examined debris from Air Force. Obviously a Russian Satellite", without going into any technical detail or descriptions. Such a document would re-inforce the findings, without being at all what the Science Fiction channel is searching for in the way of specifics.

But please - can you cite sources for the above, preferrably multiple, that aren't either from Sci-Fi channel or merely passing on the press release or parroting it to some degree? We MUST have those to take any of this seriously in the long run ;-)

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