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Old 03-December-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Extropia DaSilva View Post
Okiedokie.

So I have been searching this forum for the thread that takes all plasma cosmology/EU ideas and neatly debunks them.

So far, no luck.
And you won't find any such thread

That's not the way this ATM section works.

To quote from the BAUT rules:
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13. Alternative Concepts

If you have some idea which goes against commonly-held astronomical theory, then you are welcome to argue it here. Before you do, though READ THIS THREAD FIRST. This is very important. Then, if you still want to post your idea, you will do so politely, you will not call people names, and you will defend your arguments. Direct questions must be answered in a timely manner.

People will attack your arguments with glee and fervor here; that's what science and scientists do. If you cannot handle that sort of attack, then maybe you need to rethink your theory, too. Remember: you came here. It's our job to attack new theories. Those that are strong will survive, and may become part of mainstream science.

Additionally, keep promotion of your theories and ideas to only those Against the Mainstream threads which discuss them. Hijacking other discussions to draw attention to your ideas will not be allowed.

If it appears that you are using circular reasoning, depending on long-debunked arguments, or breaking any of these other rules, you will receive one warning, and if that warning goes unheeded, you will be banned.
Note the default order:
1) BAUT member presents an ATM idea
2) Other BAUT members challenge that idea, as presented (or ask questions about it)
3) The BAUT member who presented it (or any other BAUT member) defends the idea, meets the challenges, answers the questions
4) the cycle repeats.

If there is no presentation (of an ATM idea), there is no 'debunking'.

Further, 'debunking' may well consist of nothing more than a number of questions which go to the heart of the ATM idea, and which remain unanswered (this is a particularly common occurance, across all ATM ideas).
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I HAVE though, found lots of threads in which some hapless soul suggests it is an idea that is not entirely worthless, receives howls of laughter from the rest of the community and who finds him/herself on the receiving end of a banning from The Moderator.
(my bold)

That's a very strong claim ... can you validate it?
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Any links to this PROPPER debate? I grow tired of reading posts that avoid answering tough questions (on both sides)
And what, in your view, constitutes a "PROPPER debate"?

Let me give you three links, for your consideration:

How good are the best alternatives to the Big Bang theories?

How good are the best alternative cosmologies, in their own terms?

How good are the best alternatives to modern astrophysics theories?

I am curious to know what you think is the reason why no BAUT member chose to present 'plasma cosmology', in any of those threads.

I am also curious to know in what way you feel the scope of each thread prevents - explicitly or implicitly - any BAUT member from presenting a strong case for 'plasma cosmology'.