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Originally Posted by Extropia DaSilva
'It's an idea that's so far out there that it bypassed wrong and went straight to ridiculous.'
Given that its rival has generated speculation in extra dimensions curled up in the fabric of the cosmos and time travel and gateways to parallel universes and creating new universes by heating up a region of space to 10^29 degrees K and letting it rapidly cool and 70% of the universe made up of something very dark and mysterious...
I would say that EU would have to come up with some wayyyyyy crazy ideas to top that list!
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String theory is cutting edge physics (or highly speculative depending on your point of view.) There are many in the scientific community who view it with suspicion because it has yet to make new testable predictions. That being said, string theorists realize that their theories have to be compatible with current theories and many string theories do make predictions that match those of QED, QCD, etc. This puts them way ahead of anything the the EU proponents have done have done with their "model". Most EU types seem to scorn the idea that their idea has to do anything like this, hence the scorn with which I, and other physicists view that idea.
For the purposes of the present discussion, however, string theories are a red herring. EU ideas (or at least the ones I've encountered here) seek to displace general relativity as a theory of gravity and view gravity as a manifestation of the EM force. Thus my challenge still remains. GR is the current, mainstream, theory of gravity. Any theory that seeks to replace it must do at least as well at matching observations. Binary pulsars are a classic example. When an EU model can match the data as well as GR does (as you can find in the link to the Nobel prize site I provided above) then maybe we can talk. Until then, the EU has no legs to stand on.
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