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Old 23-December-2006, 10:28 PM
David C David C is offline
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Oh and again, you keep mentioning the shadow line on the white object on the far right. Is it impossible for smoke to have a shadow?
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon...dodvideos.html
You guys really make yourselves look silly when you say the object is smoke. I can understand why you do it though; you can't say 9/11 was an inside job. I can assure you though that you all look completely silly.
This is what smoke looks like.
http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm
This is what the nose of plane looks like.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/...gon1_plane.jpg

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No the ridiculous one is you. You misunderstood what I said. The height in the video shortens as it recedes from the camera. In the small picture, the Pentagon takes up only a few pixels. It is nearly impossible to tell where along the Pentagon to measure the height. And as pointed out to you in another post, the height also varies along its length.
Of course it varies in length. The further away it is, the smaller it looks. We have to take the point of the wall that is equadistant with the craft from that camera. Then we can see how long 150 feet is at the point where the craft is.

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The image is affected by the focal length of the lense and you still haven't even shown that the plane was close enough to the box to show in front of the box.
We know where it is by this picture.
http://0911.site.voila.fr/index1.htm
This one too.
http://www.students.ipfw.edu/~lambdl...20Pentagon.jpg

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I don't remember enough to do it without having a full top view picture in front of me. If it's so easy, why don't you prove that it's the right length to be a 757?.
Do your own work.
I already have.
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All that's necessary is that you look at the height of the Pentagon, double it and try to put it in the space between the tail and the front of the box in this picture.
http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm
Precise calculations are only necessary when it's too close to be sure by just looking at it. Here, just looking at it is sufficient.
You guys have done the calculations and you know it proves the craft was too small to be a 757.
If it had been a 757, it would have looked like this.
http://images.google.es/imgres?imgur...ng_en%26sa%3DN
(bottom right picture)
I tell you to disprove it if you think I'm wrong and you say it's my responsibility to do the math because you've already done the math and it proves that whatever hit the Pentagon was too small to be a 757.

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Many parts were not small enough to plant and many parts of the skin were found on the lawn.
Big parts could have been planted in the building before the crash. Just because it was reported that pieces of skin were found doesn't mean it's true. If pieces of skin were found, there may have been a few bodies in the plane. The CIA could get a few bodies if it wanted to.

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And your press comment is also laughable. the press across the world is not and can not be controlled.
Here in Spain the press seems to be controlled by the same group that controls the US press.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ru...rbergClub.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Me...a_Control.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Me...dia_watch.html
Enter "media" in this search engine for more.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/htdig/search.html

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Plus it is possible that the 757 is sticking out in front of the box. Due to the scanning nature of the camera, as was explained to you multiple times before, the plane will move quite a bit before the camera finishes scanning the image. That makes the image blurry. The tail shows up better because of the strong contrast against the blue sky behind it and it is smaller overall to scan but the body is nearly invisible because the contrast against the ground is not as great. Again, both the cameras in question are not designed to capture something at that speed, they were not focused at that distance, they only shot one frame a second, and their resolution was too low to show anything usefull. All of those would make those images useless in proving anything and those are all you have.
Sorry but the nose of the craft in this picture is quite clear.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/...gon1_plane.jpg
The other one wouldn't be much different.

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I don't think anything is doctored. I think you don't know what you're looking at.
You guys don't seem to realize how silly you sound when you deny the obvious. The nose of a 757 looks very different from the nose in the above picture.

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Then don't say it was a 757! That is the stupidest part of all of this! One single tourist with a camera would destroy everything! Don't you get that?
If the press is complicit in the conspiracy, they would refuse to publish it. Also, if the FBI confiscated videos from hotels and gas stations, how do we know that there weren't agents around to take cameras away from people too?

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How do you know that picture is the right scale? Have you checked it yourself or just accept it because it fits your worldview? I'm thinking the second.
I said I hadn't done precise calculations because the difference in size was great enough for it to be obvious. It looks about the right size. If I thought it wasn't the right size, I wouldn't have used it.