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Originally Posted by Obviousman
This is a breakoff from the Roswell thread, where it was claimed that TOP SECRET (TS) was "too low a classification" for anything to do with any possible "coverup" of an extraterrestial craft crashing at Roswell in 1947.
I maintain that TS IS the top level of classification for the US military, and that if any coverup did take place at Roswell (which I personally dispute), the information would still have been classified under the normal conventions (Secret, TS, etc) and again, within the normal conventions, have a codeword (SCI / SAP) applied.
I invite neverfly to have a look at this:
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/5200-1r/index.html
That's DoD 5200.1-R, INFORMATION SECURITY PROGRAMME. The Bible regarding security classifications.
I would ask neverfly to point out anywhere in that document it refers to a classification higher than TS. I'd expand that request to point out an official US government document that refers to a classification higher than TS.
Mods, request you move the relevent posts from the Roswell thread to this one. |
ill look at it later after i sleep tonight
but simply put the ONLY complaint you made in anything i said was that TS was too low a SC.
Well ill concede i may be wrong about the issue since i dont have ANY evidence to claim its NOT the highest
Since i dont have much DESIRE to try to prove its not
I was going off personal experience which In ITself was Limited
SO- it seemed TOO EASY that if i could get that Clearance- that ANYONE with it might Jostle into discovering Supposed UFO nature.
Ok if TS IS the highest then i invite you to Use that principle in cracking CT claims that UFO nonsense is labled Top Secret.
but heres MY PERSONAL ISSUE
your personal attack was extreme and not thought out.
had you in a CIVIL manner apporached that, it would have been MUCH better handled. i was wrong because i ALSO lost my temper and got defensive too quickly- at a biassed attack approach you gave.Frankly you acted like an (insert alternate name for donkey). this is an issue into which i have put very little thought and no real research into up until this moment. So its perfectly possible i was wrong- now i feel Stupider for having Vaguely mentioned it to begin with which could have been POLITELY refuted by you-
i got angry and disgusted first (also assumed you were a UFO Believer Desperately clinging to the notion that Top Secret labling PROVES the existance of UFO's) - instead of my higher intellect being appealed and that COULD have been avoided had you acted a little (little? a LOT) more courtiously in asking me WHY I said TOO LOW and what made me think that etc.
Ill have no part of this pointless thread- i think we have covered what the issue was- and what mistakes were made- and ill invite you vet of 20 years to Grow Up.
If you think im Harsh- think too about how you approached this to begin with and ill welcome your apology and we can talk Military in a Freindly manner (Which sorry to say us Military types Cant Seewm To Help but do ANYway... :P) it COULD have been settled in three maybe four posts in a civil way in the other forum and no hard feelings would have arisen.