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Old 03-January-2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Wilson View Post
Look, don't mince words.

If there was nothing beyond 5 Mpc, but otherwise everyting looked the same up to 5 Mpc, we would say, "The universe is 5 Mpc across and contracting." (According to GR as currently formulated, the universe must do one or the other: expand or contract.) It is not until we look beyong 5 Mpc that we observe expansion. So we say, "The universe is expanding."
If there was nothing beyond 5 Mpc, the universe would not be homogeneous, and we would need another model instead of the now-used Robertson-Walker metric.

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But this is incorrect. It is not doing one or the other; it is doing both at the same time: contracting locally/expanding non-locally.
Technically, you are correct. But cosmology deals only with the behaviour of the universe "as a whole", i. e. on very large scales. When one talks about the behaviour of the universe "as a whole", local effects are simply neglected.
"on the whole", the universe is expanding.

But that obviously does not mean that cosmology is entirely ignoring the more local effects - as I already pointed out.
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