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Old 03-January-2007, 09:47 AM
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Hello, Peter. Nice to see you here again. What happened to our discussion in the other thread? (Dark energy Dark matter)

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Really? Then why did nobody see the accelerating expansion coming?
Err, because this has nothing at all to do with the accelerated expansion. I know you think otherwise - but in contrast to standard physics, you have not supported that assertion in any way so far.


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If Jupiter's orbit is contracting, then the orbit of some other planet(s) must be expanding!!! (The duality.)
There is no duality in the form in which you propose it.


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Conservation of energy and angular momentum dictate this.
Show your math. Don't forget to include the energy and angular momentum contained in the sun, and in the interplanetary gas etc.


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Apply this principle to the universe at large, and the result is the same: if the universe is contracting locally everywhere, then some other parts (non-local) must be expanding!!!
No, that's a non sequitur.

Again: show your math.



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If duality were incorporated into mainstream models, the accelerating expansion would have been predicted; the mainstream would not have been caught by surprise.
Show your math: how does duality predict an accelerated expansion?


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My point is, the mainstream model is all mathematical, but it leaves out duality. A math model which leaves out an essential feature does not count as "quantitative."
Well, what about showing first, quantitatively, that your "duality" exists and can account for the acceleration?


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In your opinion.
If you think otherwise: provide evidence that it does. I. e.: show your math.


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No. The prediction from GR is that space either contracts or expands.
Wrong.

The prediction from GR for a totally homogeneous universe is that it either expands or contracts. However, the prediction from GR for a universe with density fluctuations is that even if the universe on the whole expands, these fluctuations will "contract" (on smaller scales).

In the pop-science literature, you will almost always find only the first prediction. Suggestion: try reading some real scientific papers (or at least a textbook) on a theory before attacking it.
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