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Originally Posted by marijn
Hello,
Interesting case. I am not very knowlegebale on the behavior of objects in space. This idea came to me. It's based on how flying objects can experience a boost and/or decrease in energy when exposed to a windshear.
It's actually possible for an flying object to gain kinetic energy seemingly out of nothing by moving in and out of a situation with a different wind speed. This effect is called dynamic soaring. Seabirds master this principle by pulling up and diving behind waves and boats. They take advantage of this free energy to cover large distances (not to confuse with exchanges between potential and kinetic energy).
Since an in- or decrease in kinetic energy is the result of a force could this be the space version of this unknown force you're looking for? It's Earth effects are caused by the slownness of the motion of the body due to it's mass when adapting to reach balance in a new (aerodynamical) situation. It couldn't exist without a form of friction. Maybe some of these principles apply to moving objects in space as well.
Isn't this close to the coriolis-idea? Or much the same? It's effects are real though..
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Isn't this process you are describing the same process that allows sailboats to tack? I should learn how to sail...
Excellent idea, and so well placed! I think the reason behind the force you are talking about is partly about the creation and filling of a vacuum by objects. So, your comment is very well placed, because the other related idea that goes along with this ATM concept is how Jovian moons and other bodies are born from larger systems in the parent-child relationship as alluded to above. Excellent synchronicity.
I didn't want to reveal this part of the discussion yet, but I suppose I will have to because your comment is so well placed.
Here is this thread's associated ATM:
In larger systems such as Jupiter (and possibly even the sun), when a cyclonic system becomes powerful enough (the low pressure trough becomes deep enough), the cyclone or part of the cyclone is then able to 'lift off' systems such as Jupiter, Saturn, etc. This may be the way that most of the Jovian moons were created. So, when you look at low-pressure cyclonic systems on the gaseous planets, think potential moon.