You know, I admire Phil's stamina and enthusiasm when debating these people but really, he's wasting his time with the likes of Joe Rogan. He's just another celebrity du jour ready to stand up and show the world he's not scared to be dumb. In my opinion, expend as much time and energy as is required to defend science and the truth in schools and general education and let lost causes like Rogan waffle on until the public are sick of him (and that WILL happen). Joe Rogan's opinions have about as much weight in real life as those of Tom Cruise.

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