I understand that my experience might be very different than that of most of what goes on in the ATM forum. And Fraser and Phil are running their board as they want. Obviously we can either accept their rules or go elsewhere. So my point is not to be critical of their decision.

But as I said, there is this perception about ATM that it is a bunch of wackos stressing out good intentioned mainstreamers trying to engage them in reasonable discourse. There may be a lot of wacko stuff in ATM - but mainstreamers are sometimes guilty of their own wacko reactions.

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"The scientist who asks the right question reconnoiters a new patch of the unknown, and may, with luck, bring it within the constricted but expanding boundaries of the known."

~Timothy Ferris (The Red Limit) 1982