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Originally Posted by Bogie
That answers the question. There is no discussion.
See if this sparks any consternation or appreciation:
If the ground state energy for the electron of a hydrogen atom consisted of a cloud of smaller particles, i.e. EEPs swarming the proton, then the energy of the EEP would be determined by the electron ground state energy of -13.6 eV divided by the number of EEPs in the electron cloud at the quantum state n=1, I think.
If so, using the formula 1 eV = 1.6 × 10–19 J, then the energy in joules of one unifying particle would be the eV of that particle times 1.6 × 10–19 wouldn’t it?
That being the case, then the energy per cubic meter of the perfect background at equilibrium, i.e. the energy density of the greater universe when matter and energy are in balance, would be the joules of one EEP times the number of the EEPs in that volume of space in the greater universe at that density.
Given the landscape of the greater universe in the ISU, some reasonable estimates of the energy of space could be made if the energy of the ground state EEP were known.
Knowing this energy and using the “infinite reach of gravity” explanation, the energy of the gravitational field in a volume of space would be determinable by comparing the energy at ground state of that volume with the energy of the backfill process that is occurring. That is to say, how many EEPs are shifted into that volume of space vs. how many EEPs are shifted out of that volume of space by the presence of the low energy density space surrounding the mass at some distance away. Therefore the energy of the gravitational field would be directly related to the mass of the object causing the gravitational field and inversely related to the distance that a volume of space is from the object.
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Based on the number of times this thread was viewed since the last post I am concluding that a few people have read it completely and didn’t see anything glaring out at them that inspired them to object or to mount a “gleeful attack” characteristic of how ATM threads are supposed to work.
Those few maybe are wondering why I am doing this. I do it because I want to record the details of a cosmology that puts “before and beyond” the big bang on the table with responsible speculation about how it could work and how it could explain the cause of things that BBT just observes and describes but doesn’t explain.
I am doing it because the old adage that says we can’t know about the “before and beyond” because there is an event horizon that we can never cross does not mean that we are not constantly influenced by the “beyond” and does no mean that there was no “before”. There was a “before” and it had everything to do with the “now”.
So responsible and rational “bottom up” construction of what the before and beyond might be can build a better understanding of our place in time and our place in the landscape of the greater universe.
I may or may not have earned some respect by defending my threads, by standing up for myself and what I believe, and by actually offering responsible speculation that can help lead to acceptable speculation. I am speculating about a unifying particle.
Protons consist of smaller particles and there is no proton constituent that is stable enough to exist by itself in nature until you get to the unifying particle itself. Any proton constituents that might be extracted under high energy from the proton are themselves composed of unifying particles. The possible configurations of unstable groupings of EEPs that might never-the-less always appear in high energy experiments does not mean that they appear naturally in a low energy environment.
Now the question is, was matter as we know it born from a “high energy” event plasma “soup” or was matter as we know it born from the energy density of space after an event that took matter that previously existed and squeezed the dickens out of it? I am talking about squeezing it until it couldn’t retain is structure as “matter” and was forced into a homogeneous ball of extremely compact unifying particles?
I think the “soup” of BBT was a homogeneous ball of extremely compacted unifying particles. Unifying particles don’t radiate electromagnetic radiation, matter does. If there was no matter in the initial event then there was no EM emitted when it occurred. That is what I think happened. The “before” is matter that previously existed and got squeezed into a homogeneous ball of extremely compacted unifying particles.
Now granted there was a whole lot of EM emitted outside, around and inside during the process of achieving the big squeeze but that was before the squeeze became the overriding entity that eventually emerged.
Those compact unifying particles are still individual indestructible particles that contain their own power that is expressed by a pulse that occurs every time they expand and contract. When squeezed into a homogeneous ball of extremely compacted unifying particles, they still want to expand and contract but can’t. They still have the potential to resume pulsing when the density is lowered but first the squeeze must be overcome.
The squeeze is gravity; gravity like in a big crunch as in an accumulation of previously existing matter in the form of galaxies, black holes, “dust”, and photons that gravity grabbed from the greater universe and squeezed. The unifying particles became locked but there was a build of potential energy as the locked core grew. Eventually the core burst and out came the homogeneous ball of extremely condensed unifying particles that we now know and love as “our expanding universe”.
I repeat this because I am about to make the first estimates of the size and energy of the EEP based on this bottom up approach.
The proton is a key to making these estimates.
I have recently seen how two separate relationships coming to light from my sequential recap in post #2 can be put together and allow me to make the first estimates of the size and energy of an elementary energy particle (EEP). You will have to decide for yourself if this bottom up analysis leading to quantification of the EEP can be considered responsible speculation or not.
In my next post I am going to examine the bottom up construction of the proton from the energy density of space in a new level of detail so that you can see one of those two relationships more clearly.
I am looking for a collaborator to work with me in quantifying the ISU so if you begin to have any interest in such a project email or PM me.