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Old 22-May-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by truedream
I have sad many times, check this posts #12 #32
even i am not taking about nuclear magnetic moment and i am taking about nuclear magnetic force (source of gravity ), truely powerfull than atomic magnetic moment due to the electrons.
A magnetic moment is the "source" of the magnetic interaction in the same way that charge is the soure of the electrostatic interaction.

The force between two magnets follows a 1/r3 law, whereas the gravitational force between two masses follows a 1/r2 law. Please explain how you can show that gravity is a magnetic effect.

While you do that, you may also want to answer my earlier question
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No, helium atom has powerful nucleus magnetic moment which is directly opposite to earth’s magnetic moment (gravity).

eg:works as like poles of bar magnet reples
We've seen other proposals along these lines, i.e. gravity is some sort of interaction between magnetic dipoles, like your bar magnet. One of the things that spoils this idea is that the force between two magnets (dipoles) falls off as 1/r3, whereas the force of gravity does a very good impression of falling off as 1/r2. How do you explain this?
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The different in between magnetism and gravity

Present magnets are resultant of nucleus and electrons (resultant of two unlike forces)
But gravity is resultant of nucleus and nucleus (resultant of two like forces)


Gravity and magnet

normally we or any laws don’t think about gravity with magnet, but truly gravity plays an important role in magnetism; mainly every matter has its own center of gravity point. The gravity helps to divide the magnet in to two poles or two parts at the time of production of magnet in molten state. That is point at center of gravity where action takes place; center of gravity arranges the domains equally with equal magnetic strength in different poles. So only magnet has there own North & South poles even when broken, because every broken magnet has there own center of gravity.

Did the flux in bar magnet travel from North Pole to South Pole??
Why it travel from N pole to S pole? Why even it can travel from S pole to N pole, because this two pole has equal magnetic strength,
Did really flux travel from one pole to other?
No, 100% not possible flux will not travel from N pole to S pole. Some basic understandings of present magnet are wrong and some changes in basic understanding of magnet will help us to understand gravity.
Truedream,
I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about, this sound likes absolute nonsense.

You don't seem to understand a fundamental thing - it doesn't matter what creative ideas you have if they don't match reality. At some point you have to move beyond the concept and show how your idea actually explains the physical reality of the university by using actual physical data. We are well beyond that point. You need to show some measurement that your data actually explains. Other than the fact that you think it does, you have shown no actual evidence that gravity and magnetism are connected.

If you think, for example, that your theory better explains the orbit of Mercury, then you actually have to calculate the orbit of Mercury, using your theory. Similarly, if you think it explains atomic structure or fusion processes in the sun, then you actually have to show data that confirms that.
I didn't find any post, by truedream, which explains whether gravity - according the truedream ATM idea - is an inverse square or inverse cube law.

Nor did I find any post, by truedream, which shows how the orbit of Mercury can be calculated - according the truedream ATM idea.

Could someone please point me to the relevant truedream posts?

If there are no such, then I have two questions for truedream, about the ATM idea presented in this thread (they are already covered by Swift and Fortis; I'm just asking in a (slightly) different way):

1) How does the truedream idea of gravity differ from General Relativity, quantitatively?

2) Please show how to calculate - quantitatively - the orbit of the planet Mercury, according the truedream idea.