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How about a rule that Glom is allowed to make as many politically inflammatory comments as he likes but no-one is allowed to make them back? What? No? You people are so intolerant.
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P.S. But I think this is difficult to legislate.
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Michael Mozina, in this ATM thread, commented as follows on the rules (my bold):
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Besides Moz doing the usual complaining about how he's a victim? If he responded to one of the "billion and three pet 'issues'" (good to see he's not exaggerating) with a straightforward, evidence-laden answer, then the discussion might move on. Instead he retreats into the usual ATM position of being some kind of victim or self-styled martyr (i.e., "anyone and everyone is welcome to throw at me, while I can't ask anyone any questions or expect any answers"). Another typical aspect of the ATM retreat is the claim that "This process looks suspiciously "religious-like" in nature." It's the old "I'm up against dogma/the system/the establishment/"the man" baloney, which is designed to shift the focus from what the ATMer is claiming to how the ATMer is being treated. This invariably leads to the old "I'm being suppressed and therefore I'm right!" claim. This is usually coupled with comments about the rabble the "advanced thinker" has to deal with. Quote:
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I have no problem with the rules - I think they are fair and necessary. One thing I would like to comment on is the second paragraph involving warnings:
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Re "quack", I'd say it's appropriate if the HB/CT/ATMer is ducking the issues. Concerning RCH and appropriate language, heck, just seeing "Hoagland" in a post is enough to get me giggling. ![]()
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I haven't read the rules yet, and only the first 5 posts in
this thread, but I have two observations already: First, I think it is great than an area for discussion of the rules is available! That would probably have prevented a lot of grief in some astronomy/Space discussion forums I participated in. Which leads to my second observation... The Fido SPACE echo was run for years by a moderator who was widely respected. She needed to turn the very successful echo over to a new moderator. One person campaigned for the job. I tried to convince the long-time moderator that the guy who was campaigning was a bad choice. But his campaign was successful and he won the position. He immediately installed a way-too-long list of rules, and enforced them as though enforcing rules was the ultimate reason for being a moderator. He regularly chewed out new posters for posting slightly off-topic or other mistakes that seemed to me to be entirely innocent in many cases. He knew he was right and wouldn't listen to backtalk. I was temporarily banned from the echo for what I said to him in e-mail, complaing about his rules. The echo quickly tanked. In summary, his main problem was his personality, which is not a problem here, and his secondary problem was too many rules. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis Correction, a while later: If I recall correctly, I was actually banned for complaining about the moderator's application of the rules to another poster, not about the rules themselves.
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Second question: Does CNN, ABCNews, MSNBC, etc, basically all the big News companies, fall into the same league as NASA or an universities realm of big bandwidth (when using [IMG] tags)? |
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The commercial sites all pretty much have advertising around the outskirts of their pages. Linking directly to their materials bypasses one of their main ways of making money off their sites, so it's probably not appreciated.
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1) Bandwidth: You can always provide a link, and then the host will loose the bandwidth either way, although the ratio of those who follow it and people looking at the thread is usually less than 1. If the ratio is expected to be low, it might be wise not to hot-link. Then consider how many views it will have relative to what it has in its original context. At BAUT, maybe it will be shown 1000 times in one day, while maybe a million will see it from CNN. In that case I see no problem. On the other hand, a poor geocities site with limited bandwidth, might suffer badly from hot-linking. 2) Copyright: The owner might not want the image to be shown in other contexts than the original... In the end of the day, I think it comes down to common sense. Personally I would prefer more hot-linking, since I hate have to follow links everywhere, but that's just me ![]() |