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This thread has been created by splitting posts that were tangential to the content of the Consolidated suggestions on the ATM section thread.

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Why Nereid, you have missed me out!
I proposed looking to future members on the board.
Ergo,

That there be a period of one lunar month during which ATM ideas could be discussed (this being to stop non ATM'ers dragging on the threads for ever and ever because they will not listen).

To add to this, threads be allowed to be reopened after one half of a sidereal year. This will allow non ATM'ers to 'cool off' and yet allow new members to the board to discuss ideas that are new to them (but not to old board members who are dead and gone)

Cheers,
lyndon

I did miss the second part (the first is indistinguishable from '30-days'*, or any other minor variation ... there are lots of such minor variations on Fraser's post, or other suggestions).

In which post did you present the 'to be reopened after one half of a sidereal year' suggestion? I would like to make sure there's a direct link to it.

Perhaps I should add a note about leaving out minor variants of suggestions already listed ...

*Or is it? Perhaps you could elaborate on just what your idea here is, and how it is significantly different from the current ('30-day') policy?

It was implied but not stated.
Cheers,
lyndon

Thanks for the clarification.

I did not try to capture suggestions that were implied, but not stated.

Thirty days is messy.
post a post on 1st march no probs.
Post it on 22nd jan problem. Is it a leap year ....? Is it a millenium year..?
In lunar months, you get twelve and about one half months in a year. if you get paid in lunar months (like I used to) you get about half a salary extra per year. so it is significant. Is this an astronomy board or not?

thirty days just isn't scientific.
Cheers,
Lyndon

Irrelevant. Thirty days is thirty days.
No more and no less than lunar months and sidereal years. To paraphrase Gertrude Stein:

Thirty days is thirty days is thirty days.

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The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

Why? Thirty days is thirty days.

Why? If it is a leap year, I would expect the leap day to be included when appropriate. If a day is ignored, then you could rightfully point out that you didn't get 30 days.


Eh? Are you thinking of, perhaps, applying Fizzbin-like rules? That would be messy.

Edited to add: CM, I see we posted at the same time. Now, would you stop reading my mind? (Or did I read yours? I'm confused.) Anyway, just stop it!

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Huh? Did someone move Leap Day? *

(And, it seems to me we don't need to worry about another Millenium Year anytime soon. Or, were you hoping to open a new ATM thread then?)



* My daughter has a friend who was born on Feb 29. This adds nothing to the topic, but I like the trivia.

Come to think, trivial stuff seems to be the topic.

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Whichever one of you it is, would you give Nereid a hand at picking out those implied suggestions?

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After perusing 4-5 threads on ATM I decided to post my thoughts in this one.

Could we create a mechanism for penalizing posters who repeat the same argument after it has been rebutted effectively in a previous post?

Sample:

Statement:The space shuttle is only capable of carrying 400kg of cargo into orbit.

Rebuttal: Nasa and other independent weight reports are cited in these links:
link1
link2
link3

Rebuttal: The space shuttle is only capable of carrying 400kg of cargo into orbit.

Rebuttal: Nasa and other independent weight reports are cited in these links:
link1
link2
link3

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You do know that the Leap Day is the 26th, not the 29th. Right?

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This is off topic, but commenting on your statement.

I have the impression that in the old calendar, when they held February 26th twice in one year for leap year, the second one was the bisextile day, but now that instead, they insert Feb 29 at the end of the month, we call THAT the leap day.

Did you know that in 1712, in Sweden, they had a February 30th?

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I did know that. It was due to a completely messed up attempt at calendar reform where they had decided that the simplest way to change to the Gregorian calendar would be by leaving out leap years entirely until they were done.

This resulted in 1700 and 1704 not being leap years, then they forgot about the decision in 1708 which was therefore a leap year, then in 1712 they figured out they where idiots and made it a double leap year to get back in sync with the Julian before they changed it for real in 1753.

A reason why they wanted to avoid the large jump was a problem was that at the time many people paid rent and such on a monthly basis, but received wages on a daily basis, so having a month with half the days would seriously mess up things.

And I'm sorry for the minor hijack, now back to our regular programming.

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And the "driving on the freeway on a scooter" analogy still holds true because the pilots are sitting in 7 to 30 ton aircraft o' doom and you are running around them in your very own Meatbody, Mark I. Beep, beep.
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CM,

Quoting Gertrude Stein: hmm, you have not failed to impress me. I was not familiar with that particular paraphrase, but if you don't mind, could you provide a reference. Was this from her cubist poetry readings?

And I thought you were just a celestial mechanic, around whenever anyone needed to lube their dissent with a tad of visceral convention.

Thanks.

On a different note, you are perhaps familliar with this quote:

"I have forced myself to contradict myself in order to avoid conforming to my own taste." Marcel Duchamp


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See this page. I have known this line of Gertrude Stein's for many years but did not know where it came from. (Actually there are several variants, see the link above.) Ain't Google grand?

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The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

Wow!
My own thread!
To quote Harold Wilson.
"seven days is a long time in politics."
To quote Lyndon Ashmore.
"Thirty days is a long time on the BAUT board."
Cheers,
Lyndon

Why no apology?
If anyone wants to start a thread then why not under their own name?
My name is mine

Splitting, merging, moving and renaming posts and topics are standard procedure on any message board, simply as a matter of general organization. In reading your last dozen posts or so it seems painfully obvious that your sole agenda is to waste as much moderator time as possible and irritate as many members as you can. When was the last time you posted something that is might even remotely resemble productive discussion? Don’t you have anything better to do with your time?

Or are you thinking that it’s good advertising to keep your signature link active? If that’s the case and you are trying to attract members to your website, I would suggest working on your people skills.