Hey All -

There's a new Doomsayer on the horizon...GULP, SWEAT!

David Booth, another profitie...uhhh...ummm...PROHPET, yeah, that's it!

www.whatdoesitmean.com

This one is AMAZING! Been watching him for about a week..BA even debunked him on C2Cam last week. Has that dissuaded him? Nahh.

Last week, he posted a critical letter, with the name and contact info. of the guy who criticized him, also saying, he would "close shop"..."not in it for $$", (yet...he still pawns his book).

Did he close shop? You all know the answer. The guy then starts getting death threats from fanatics!

His claim: A planet-sized object will hit the S. Pole in Sept. Any planetary, or solar wobble detected? Nope. Mad Astronomers (only "top tier" frantically flying to S. Pole!)

He won't answer my questions...how can one debate logic?

Check him out...I'm eager to see his illogic crumble.

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Mike
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There is a valid theory to Doomsayers' claims: It's called, "The PT Barnum" theory.

Also, of course, there is a website attached to this bulletin board.

No disrespect intended...
No prognosticating involved...

Just out of curiosity, BA, have you considered using the above phrase for an epitaph? That'd stop 'em in their tracks, strolling through the boneyard, seeing that carved on a polished granite slab...

...is this what they refer to as 'dark humor'?

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"If a tree is cut down in the rainforest, and is used to make paper to print a book, and the book is really bad, and there's nobody that will read it, do you still hear a sucking sound?"
Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.

My most humble apology, Charlie, and thanks for the head's up.

I had seen another thread entitled, "x-forum" (a web address, obviously), and didn't know it was verboten!

It is/was my sincerest hope that people would look at Mr. Booth's claims (and I've subsequently crossed some threads mentioning him battling the BA), and dismantle his (heee, heee, cough, cough, ahem), "credibility".

What's irked me the most about him - and I suppose it's akin to Nancy Leider syndrome - is that he's selling a book on Doomsaying, with no: concrete proof, refuses to respond to debate, promised to take his webpage down, yet continues to publish hearsay without data.

I don't know if this is allowed, I'd have to refer to the bylaws, but I'd love to post the letters I wrote him which remain unanswered...so far.

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Mike
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There is a valid theory to Doomsayers' claims: It's called, "The PT Barnum" theory.

Read David's posting today:
www.whatdoesitmean.com/index29.htm
Scroll to the essay "Worlds In Collision, All signs Point South"
He claims Nancy stole McCanney's ideas! This is a real hoot. PX will never die!

Intrepid -

I did this morning. I can't bear it anymore...truly. He won't respond to my line of questions, yet, about 3 or so days ago, he posted "letters" from "people", that offered him feedback and criticisms.

I noted of 12 letters posted, 3 were critical for his being irresponsible, and 9 were singing his praises.

Funny...he never posts my letters, nor responds to them. I just can't figure it out. Pretty soon, I'm going to take my toys and go home! javascript:emoticon('](*,)')

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Mike
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There is a valid theory to Doomsayers' claims: It's called, "The PT Barnum" theory.

Nitzer, you sent him a personal email? He's not responding....That doesn't surprise me. He can't PERSONALLY verify anything, but the "ancients" and McCanney can (yeah, right....) I've not checked out the website enough to read all the postings. That's on my to- do list. I have been reading his daily disinfo campaign though...
Anyway, question for anyone: Booth claims the transit of Venus last 8 years until 2012. Is this true (="Good Astronomy")?

Transits of Venus come in pairs with each transit separated by 8 years. So in other words, this "pair" consists of two transits, one in June .. the other in 2012. The actual duration for the June transit is approx 6 hrs IIRC.

Please school an unknowing person in the "Transit of Venus". Is this the same occurance that happens when Venus' orbit carries it close to the earth, or the Moon and Venus appear almost within touching distance of each other?

If so, he claims that it is a once in a lifetime event, if so, I say it is not for as a child I remember that same thing happening in the 50's, the radio carried it as a celestial event and even played songs about it, "Venus" by Frankie Avalon was one. Not to seem too quaint about it, but I really would like to know. If it is not, then I will learn something new and not be ashamed to admit it.

The nice thing about this board is ALL of us continue to learn from each other, it never stops. A transit of Venus is when it is observed crossing the solar disk from Earth. It is rare (last one was seen in 1882) due to our two planets having different orbital planes with regards to the sun. Here's a helpful link to some common Venus transit FAQs.

I believe we're at cross purposes here, nitzer...my comments about dissing and prognosticating were in reference to our beloved BA, not wishing him ill or scrying it coming soon. I just had a curious notion...did you know that in the fudge shops on Mackinac Island, they cool the fudge by spreading it out on a marble slab and working it as it thickens? One of the fudge makers supposedly prepared for the future. If the slab in question wasn't in use, and you asked nicely, the man would let you look under the slab, where he'd carved the appropriate available information...he was planning on using his fudge slab as his tombstone...that's the kind of thing that darts through my mind, generating oddball ideas...some folk say I'm nuts. Absolutely -- and I've got the paperwork to prove it.

Anyway, Mr Booth is another of the McCanney/Hoagland/Lieder ilk, looking to attract a following of those who don't know their gluteus maximus from their elbow. And he's likely to find his own dedicated following who have majored in Foaming At The Mouth 101 and Remedial Hand Waving.

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"If a tree is cut down in the rainforest, and is used to make paper to print a book, and the book is really bad, and there's nobody that will read it, do you still hear a sucking sound?"
Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.

Anyway, Mr Booth is another of the McCanney/Hoagland/Lieder ilk, looking to attract a following of those who don't know their gluteus maximus from their elbow. And he's likely to find his own dedicated following who have majored in Foaming At The Mouth 101 and Remedial Hand Waving.[/quote]

Apologies for misinterpreting Charlie. Ahhh...Mackinac("aw")! So beautiful...been many times..it's been too long (but now I'm scared to eat the fudge!).

The above was my initial point, Charlie. While I don't doubt he'll have his own following, regardless of what we do, it was my hope that at least we could call his, "Science" (hee, Haaa, HAAAHH!! Ahem.), to the mat.

If people want to have their beliefs in "End of the World" scenerios...so be it. Who are we to change their delusions? I just get irked when an unethical "prophet" profits at the expense of people who don't know better than to take one's word, instead of questioning their logic.

And, you're not "nuts". I work in the "nut" field...and you ain't it. Eccentric, okay..if you wish. Intelligent, yes. Nuts, farrrrrrrrrrr from it.

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Mike
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There is a valid theory to Doomsayers' claims: It's called, "The PT Barnum" theory.

Nitzer, I believe the word you are looking for is "PROFIT" of doom.

Art Bell mentioned the "quickening" where everything happens faster. I believe in this quickening, instead of the world ending every 20 years or so, it ends every 20 days or so, depending on the channeler, psychic, or ""Scientist"" you happen to be listening to at the time.

I will make my own end times prediction...Pepsi will stop making their diet version of their cola, there by forcing me to drink..."gulp"...water. If that doesn't end the world, I don't know what will.

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Those who repeat History are doomed to learn it.

No, this is a different thing. The upcoming event is Venus transitting the Sun. Nothing weird is actually happening to its orbit. It's just that it will pass directly between the Earth and the Sun, which means that the disk of Venus will appear silouhetted against the Sun. Pretty neat, huh? Mercury can also transit the Sun, and does far more frequently.

The reason we don't always see Venus pass in front of the Sun (despite the fact that it comes between us and the Sun pretty frequently) is because the plane of Venus' orbit and the plane of Earth's orbit are not identical. We have to be crossing the plane of Venus' orbit when it passes between us and the Sun in order for it to appear to transit the solar disk.

Espenak's Eclipse Home Page has a page devoted entirely to the June 2004 transit of Venus.

EDIT: Here's an even better length, with, amazingly enough, actual pictures from the last transit in 1882: Transit of Venus (also has information about transits of Mercury).

[quote="Gmann"]Nitzer, I believe the word you are looking for is "PROFIT" of doom.

Ahhh...they're synonymous/interchangeable when it comes to PlanetXer's.

"Profit" - remains a noun, and adjective.

"Prophet" - remains a noun; becomes an adjective.

After all, "Planet X" is the Twighlight Zone of the board. Why shouldn't Rod Serling's laws apply to grammar here?
#-o

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Mike
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There is a valid theory to Doomsayers' claims: It's called, "The PT Barnum" theory.

Maybe we should call him the "Prophet who profits". (runs and hides)

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Those who repeat History are doomed to learn it.

How about "The Non-prophet Profit"?

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John -

I LOVE IT....I FREAKIN' LOVE IT!!

=D>

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Mike
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There is a valid theory to Doomsayers' claims: It's called, "The PT Barnum" theory.

And of course, from The Saint Valentine's Day Massacre of a few years back, you could get those handy little corkboard fasteners from the seer who lived in the small village of Windfall, PA...

Yes, you could get your very own Windfall Prophet's Tacks... #-o

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"If a tree is cut down in the rainforest, and is used to make paper to print a book, and the book is really bad, and there's nobody that will read it, do you still hear a sucking sound?"
Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.

What if some of those tacks are defective. Would we then have tacks breaks? :-k

(This is quickly degrading into a punfest)

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Those who repeat History are doomed to learn it.

"Degrading"? Considering the original subject of this thread, switching to puns is a definite upgrade...

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"If a tree is cut down in the rainforest, and is used to make paper to print a book, and the book is really bad, and there's nobody that will read it, do you still hear a sucking sound?"
Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.