Okay, the comparison is here. I have copies of both the 2003 and 2004 Old Farmer's Almanac...why have I kept a copy of the '03, you might ask? Well, being the motorhead that I am, there's a very neat article in there about the first drive across the continental US in 1903...and there's pitchers of antique automobubbles...you might remember the PBS documentary "Horatio's Drive", by Dayton Duncan (who authored the article in the Almanac) and Ken Burns last year...

The Old Farmer's Almanac is based now in New Hampshire, and its various astronomical predictions are all based on the time of the event at Boston MA. Numerous cities and the appropriate correction factors for these events are listed in the back of the book. Part of the instructions read that if your city is not listed, use the figures for the city closest to you in latitude and longitude. There is a specific note: "Because of the complex calculations for different locales, time may not be precise to the minute." With that proviso in mind, let us compare sunrise times for
Dayton Ohio as Nancy said to do...the correction factors were compared, and are identical for 2002, 2003, and 2004. Times are all AM.
(Pardon the picture of a text document...someday I'm gonna figger out how to do ordered columns on these boards...)

...and by the way, the 2004 Old Farmer's Almanac does list Venus transiting the Sun on June 8...

So, what do we have? The biggest difference is March 31'sts, where there's a three minute difference. The various correction factors for time of year are in four minute increments, and in 2003 the correction factor changed on April 1st -- in 2004, the correction factor changed on March 31st. Four minute correction factor change minus one minute Leap Year adjustment = three minute difference between sunrise 31 Mar 2003 and 31 Mar 2004...and after that, the differences drop back to the one minute that can be chalked up to the Leap Year. Any other differences are one minute, which is the lowest unit of measurement.

The almanacs list no appreciable and/or unexplainable differences in projected sunrise times between 2002/03 and the same months of 2003/04. The scientific world noticed no appreciable and/or unexplainable differences in actual sunrise times between 2002/03 and the same months of 2003/04 to this point. Nancy's claim that there is a difference since Planet X showed up holds no water...and by the way, how would The Old Farmer's Almanac's editors know how much to adjust sunrise times due to the effect of PX? Hmmm? Now, any changes in sunrise times would be accompanied by a similar time in sunset change, and the scientific world hasn't raised the alarum about that either.

Like I said, the Venus Transit is listed in the almanac. We'll have to wait until June to see who's absotively posilutely correct here, but between you, me, and the wall, I'm betting the rent money on The Old Farmer's Almanac...

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I'm sure the CIA/NASA Planet X cover up team knew the exact effects of Planet X last year and altered the '03 Farmers Alamanac to fit our new orbital data. For that matter, how can you be sure they didn't break into your house and shop the Almanac out for an altered copy while you were away?

They woulda left footprints in the dust...

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Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.

bigfoot...print

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They used anti-gravity boots to float across the floor and avoided footprints.

Not so! everyone knows that at the CIA they use Segways to move around, as seen in this movie

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Hello,

Charlie - May I crosspost your excellent article?

Thank you,

Jonathan
-It doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is what I can prove.-

Well, I have copies of the Old Farmer's Almanac and I seriously doubt that anyone has entered my home to pull a "switch". I have two very large Collie dogs and my male is anything but friendly towards strangers. They would have left behind more than footprints....more like a piece of their behind! :P

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An open mind is like an open window...without a good screen you'll get all sorts of weird bugs!

Be my guest, Jonathan. Let me know where it goes...that way I can deduct a few more seconds from my fifteen minutes of fame...

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"If a tree is cut down in the rainforest, and is used to make paper to print a book, and the book is really bad, and there's nobody that will read it, do you still hear a sucking sound?"
Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.

now that hardly seems fair charlie.


You get 15 mins to speak truth..

while LIEer..errr Lieder gets 9, give or take, to speak bull-dookie...get air-time, fame(not that I would want her fame...), etc etc etc.... liedercy...lunarcy?...zetacy?


LOL you deserve more then 15 mins

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Considering that she's been on Woo2Woo and Lou Gentile and other media outlets numerous times, and that if you add all that time up, and divide it by actual truth she's spoken, you still won't get an answer out of her because division by zero is undefined...but I digress...no I don't...I think...

Anyway, I'm not turrible worried about her...
I'd rather be remembered as one who had his stuff together, as opposed to being the answer to a trivia question, like she'll be...

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Charlie in Dayton, A.AsC.

As commanded, it shall be done.

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"I refuse to accept criticism from someone who's hiding under a table"
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