Thanks to the good folks at Fark.com, I read this page:

http://www.thetruthishere.com/nimrod.html

The author claims that the Biblical Tower of Babel was actually a rocket with a hydrogen bomb in it.

Aporetic

Well, they don't make many assumptions, do they! Check out this snip:

"Fallen angels would understand how to separate the isotopes of hydrogen because hydrogen fusion is the framework of stars and angels. All ancient ziggurats used water for some unknown reason. You separate the isotopes of hydrogen from ordinary water. Hydrogen bomb-making was within the reach of Nimrod. Why else would God have to scatter mankind by confusing his tongue?"

To think, angels are "mad bombers"! Once again I ask, where do people like this come from?

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I wonder how far a rocket built of mud-brick would travel?

If he's that much of an expert shouldn't he be aware that Babylon and Baghdad aren't the same place. And 'All ancient ziggurats used water for some unknown reason' ? One of the reasons for the rise of the Sumerian civilization (and later civilizations) was their ability to build irrigation canals and aqueducts. But this is getting off the topic of astronomy - I'm curious - is there a rational explanation for the 'two suns'?

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I didn't notice the first time through, but on this page...

http://www.thetruthishere.com/canopy.html

he seems to propose that the Earth was once surrounded by a "water canopy" that blocked out various harmful solar rays and allowed people to become very old (like all the old people in the Old Testament) and enabled reptiles to grow to enormous sizes (i.e. dinosaurs). A meteorite hurled by god pierced this canopy and caused the Biblical flood.

Aporetic

[Captain Kirk]Uh, excuse me, but why does God need a meterorite?[/CK]

The "Ancient Rocket" story debunked.

The "Vapor Canopy" debunked.

- Maha "why is there an ad for Yu-Gi-Oh cards on the bottom of this page?" Vailo

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Thanks for the links, Maha (or is that Mr. Vailo?). I particularly liked the calculations in the second link.

Aporetic

Oh yes, that was Star Trek V, wasn't it? "What does God want with a starship?" Very good.

Cheers.

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Well, if you are using a Project Orion style nuclear bomb launch, then I assume you could get it to go pretty far.

Just not all in one piece!

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If it was built in orbit (and I have no idea what effect a vacuum would have on mud), and was attached to an ion engine with very, very slow acceleration, I suspect it might go quite far.

Aporetic

Oh geez... where to start....

First off, Babylon and Baghdad were two totally different cities. Babylon is roughly 6000 years old. Baghdad was founded in AD 762 and is some 30 miles north of Babylon.

The author ignores a fundamental aspect of Mesopotamian art - important people were depicted as taller than less important people. Thus, whoever that is with the horns on his helmet - looks like a warrior hero of some sort to me - was carved bigger because he's the hero of whatever story the carving shows. Since he's the hero, he would be drawn larger than any of the lesser characters he vanquished.

There is nothing in the carving that explicitly identifies the conical structure with the Tower of Babel. It could be a zigguraut. It could be a mountain. It could be a tower. That it's carved 'too perfect to be a mountain peak' is totally unconvincing. Mesopotamian art was invariably stylized so to expect a photo-realistic depiction of a mountain is silly. As such, there's it's even more ludicrous to assume it's a ballistic missile. Heck, why would Nimrod be wielding a spear if his people had hydrogen bomb technology?

Saying that 'snake' was a term used for rockets because of their speed is ludicrous. For starters, snakes have only a passing similarity to rockets. It also ignores the fact that snakes can actually move quite fast. These are animals that prey on small, fast animals such as mice. Since their prey is fast, snakes need to be able to strike quickly to catch them. The bit about them gleaming and owing their speed to their breath is bizarre, but I'm inclined to dismiss that as either a bad translation or, more likely, the ramblings of an ancient historian who had very little idea of what he was talking about when it came to zoology.

Why is there now an ad for classic movies at the bottom of the screen? Surely they don't mean Star Trek V?

Edited to add: Now it's gone. I guess they didn't think so either.

:P

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This is incorrect, Taibak.
A fundamental aspect of mesopotamian art is that the "horned helmets" represent the "gods" who are often depicted as "giants." This ties in with the Genesis 6 verse telling of the Nephilim "who were on the earth in those days, and also afterward." KJV calls them "giants."
You'll find very few depictions of Man with a horned helmet or as a "giant." Not even Gilgamesh was depicted in such a way, and he was 2/3 divine!

How would they get the parts into orbit?
Or did they build a mud brick "space elevator"

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Building it in orbit wouldn't fit the "Tower of Babel" scenario though. Also, calculating the correct orbit would be rough using cubits as your unit of measure. :wink:

So, the Tower of Babel was actually a space elevator used to carry supplies to orbit and the pyramids were breeder reactors to supply power and fuel.

Now it makes perfect sense!

The reactors were cooled by the Water Canopy that was destroyed by god to create the flood. I wonder if god warned them to turn off the reactors first, becfore he cut off their coolant supply.

Aporetic

Hmmmm I wonder, how thick the pusher plate would have to be.......

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But you forget: The Babel space elevator was constructed after the flood. The water canopy couldn't possibly have cooled the pyramids.

On a more serious note, I'm pretty sure the Nefalim were supposed to have existed before the flood, not after - so they couldn't have been involved in the construction of Babel.

The leaps of logic made by some people is amusing. Claiming an ancient structure as a rocket shows how foolish they are.