Looks like Nancy's actually trying to deal with the Sedna announcement, sort of:

http://tinyurl.com/2b5m2

I think this para is the give-away:

No point in trying to find any logic there - this is pure ZetaPhysix[TM]. But, actually, she seems a tad confused even for her - rest assured, though, the ever-lovin' Zetas will probably have supplied a slightly less incoherent line or two by tomorrow.

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Part of her confusion is how to claim this tiny planetoid way way way out past Pluto is also the 4x Earth-sized planet/brown dwarf/comet that has been hanging around near the sun for the last year.

Over at GLP, they seem to find it quite significant that Sedna is red.

:roll:

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I like the idea of an (almost) planetary-size object "making a U-turn.."

Thats what I call cornering!

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I can almost hear the squeals and smell the burning rubber! #-o

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I don't think that's Nancy. She's not shy about identifying herself (unless she's got some sock puppets over there, which is a definite possibility).

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Against my better judgement, I read over the GLP Sedna thing.
ummm, is it just me or did I miss something?
I mean, just because it has an elliptical orbit, that means it comes into the inner solar system every (insert recurring great disaster meaningful number here) years? IIRC, there was mention in the official reports that Sedna's closest approach is still way out past Pluto and definately not any closer in.
I thought all the planets and most other things in orbit around the Sun had elliptical orbits.

*must remember, logic and common sense fail in the presence of PX*

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that is such a lovely image

A PXer chimes in with the question, "Is Sedna going to be naked eye visible soon??"

:-s

They seem to have some difficulty understanding just what is meant by an object having an elliptical orbit. Apparently this means that Sedna will come hurtling through the solar system, comet-like. But that's not even the really bizarre part of it. Even though NASA is the one who released the information about it, NASA is still involved in some sort of cover-up about Sedna.

#-o

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Not just that, the original poster also says in later post that having an elliptical orbit suggests that the object orbits two bodies. In otherwords, he thinks that NASA is admitting the existence of "Nemesis". #-o

I didn't twig to this before... are they somehow under the impression that there must be a physical body at both foci of the orbital ellipse?!? #-o Perhaps they've really managed to solve the general three-body problem and aren't sharing the info with the rest of us? [-X :wink:

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I just wish these people would explain why they glom on to every NASA announcement yet at the same time go on about how you can't trust them because NASA are covering up everything. #-o

Yup - that is canonical ZetaPhysics[TM]. Here - from the horse's, er, mouth:

http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s36.htm

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They are spouting the same nonsense over at osa now too. Some of it is direct quotes.

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Since every orbit is at least a little bit elliptical, I'd like to know where the object at the other focal point for Mars is. Not least so we can warn Mercury about it.

Ooo, someone tell them that a circle is an ellipse, but an ellipse is not a circle, and see if their brains explode.

For that matter, someone tell them what an ellipse is.

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So that ties it into the mayan calender so only another 8 years of this. Then what??






GLP makes my brain ache!

The Hebrew calendar?

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Yes, they most definitely do think that. This is an old one, in fact. Nancy does indeed think that an elliptical orbit implies that there is a gravitational attractor at each focus. I've tried to explain before in long exchanges at GLP (really should know better, I guess [-( ). Of course, she is convinced that gravity is really a repulsion force (or as she has it, a "repulsive force") but the fact that she doesn't understand the math is something that she just interprets as "proof that the math doesn't work" and hence "Newton is wrong".

Well, what I did get out of our exchanges on the subject (and actually, this isn't a flip remark; I'm completely serious) is I got some great education in how to explain Newtonian physics to fifth graders. If you're ever going to need to do that, a debate with Nancy on the subject is the best experience you'll ever get.

Krill

don't go putting ideas into their heads now...

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I like how they keep bringing in [paraphrased] "why hasn't Hubble taken pictures; where are the Hubble close-ups?" If Hubble could really give us a "close-up" of Sedna, then don't they realize that we could have close-ups of Pluto and Charon, considering they're 3x closer as opposed to the light maps from the occultations decades ago? Don't these people think before they post?

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For the most part, no. :wink:

Actually, that's cruel of me to say. GLP posters do a lot of thinking but their thought processes are geared towards determining grand conspiracies and how the gov't is lying to them (while at the same time using said NASA/gov't-provided data to back up their claims). Critical thinking is not the type of thought usually seen at GLP.

Oh, and welcome to the Board stu!

They also areclaiming that the illustration pictures that Nasa use are its actual size and what you could see if you looked for it. :roll:

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You would need a bunch of these ( ) to look for it.

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Must be another NASA coverup. They took pics of Pluto and Charon and found bald pigeons frozen and perfectly preserved, the work of the evil people of Titan.

Welcome, Tranquility! Bald pigeons? I am most interested in this new learning. How does this relate to the fact the Earth is banana-shaped? You must join us on our quest!

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NL said
Unfortunately, she misunderstood the NASA announcement, when the spokesman said "We have detected a large object outside Pluto's orbit. We have decided to name it Sedna."

To her ears the spokesman said "It's Edna" the name, according to inside sources, of Nancy's long lost sister. Since then she has been convinced that her sister is going to reunite with her here on Earth. Hence her predictions about the orbital rendezvous and other calamities.

So, look out Gemini, here come Geminae! Two woowoos for the price of one!

Then, again, maybe not... 8)

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Thanks for the welcome Maksutov.

There is currently a lot of intensive effort to prove the relation between goat droppings and celestial catastrophes in Pisces during mid-September.
This effort will provide a lot of practical value in determining the effect of nebula activity on neutronic distillation at the core of omega centauri.

Just make sure those goat droppings don't stain any rugs. You don't want to make such large-scale alterations to the observable universe as adding a new galaxy cluster or anything.

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