I wanted to title this "The brain-dead talking to the brain-dead," but since the BA doesn't like ad hominems, I thought I'd better not. I don't like ad hominems, either, but what can you say when the host talks like this:

And this is after he says:

The whole thing is here:

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/case0402.htm

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Nancy NEEDS an ad hominem and I can think of a few. She is so desperate, (no mainstream media will have her), she's resorted to short-wave rado? Pathetic!

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Hello,

Hm. Quite the interview... I know I am preaching to the choir here, but...

Thus, she postulates that we are nine million miles closer to the Sun than we have been in the past (and we failed to notice), and that she learned this via Zetan out-of-body experiences, in which she has been 'snooping' on astronomers.

And yet light meters fail to record this. Can she indicate what observatories these are? And perhaps a more specific whoever?

But not when you measure it, Nancy!

Except that the constellations continue to rise and set precisely as predicted. Except that GoTo and equatorial telescopes everywhere continue to function exactly as designed. Except that even ancient navigational equipment continues to perform as designed. Except that ancient astronomical structures continue to line up. Except...

And yet, she continues to fail to understand the impossibility of this. How can part of the sky be a certain number of degrees of, and yet a different part of the sky be a *different* set of numbers off? The stars aren't moving; the Earth is (or suppsedly isn't, if one is to believe Nancy...).

Now, if Polaris were truly eight degrees off, then the point that is assumed to be the center of the great sky wheel is now incorrect by the same margin. Therefore, *nothing* will now rise or set on time, anywhere. I don't see how she doesn't understand this...

Groan. From the absurd...

...to downright dangerous advice. Okay, that's all I can handle for one day.

Sigh.

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One small correction please!

Nancy was NOT on "Ham radio!"

The frequency noted in the link is not in the ham bands, and broadcasting per se is not allowed in the ham-authorized spectrum.

Justin is either operating in spectrum allocated to international broadcasting or is a pirate. I don't have the full spectrum allocation chart handy to check on that particular slice, but if he is a pirate, I will see that the FCC is alerted to his email address and location!

Edited to add:

I checked. The frequency cited is in the authorized U.S. international shortwave broadcasting spectrum. The program content is sure suspect, but the frequency is legit!

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I have corrected the thread title. My apologies for the error.

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I never knew that it was possible to broadcast at 5.085 mHz :-?

I assume he meant 5.085 MHz.

No sweat, but thanks for fixing the thread title..

Most people associate short wave and Ham (like green eggs....)

If it wasn't Nancy, I wouldn't have bothered.

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It would appear that Justin Case is being broadcast on a FCC legal HF station. WGTG is licensed by the FCC to broadcast on the HF bands and uses 5.085 MHz USB.

Tom
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My brother's into ham radio, so I really should know better. ops:

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Oh the temptation. 8-[

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lol its okay you can post a gif

I am suspecting that my fellow lupus is wanting to ham it up.

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I have a Skymap program and there are on-line programs that will also show you, for your location, and put in the current date, such as April or May or whatever, 2004 .. what you should be seeing, and you can say ‘all right, true North, I should be seeing’ .. what kind of view, you can print those off, take it with you, and compare what you’re looking at to that. And you’ll see the differences. I recently heard from someone in Italy who said that Orion last night was at 260°. Zero is dead North, 180° is dead South, 270° is dead West. He said Orion was at 260°, not at 250° where it should have been. So when I get those precise measures, and I get them from people all over the world, I put it together and it all jibes, and they are telling me, from the pieces of information they have, what the tilt and lean is doing after every sweep. Sometimes we’ll have a sweep and they’ll say ‘holy cow’ suddenly, this or that happens, it went 20° further in this direction or that direction.
from

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/case0402.htm

magnetic variation in italy is 10-15 degrees depending on where you are
fromhttp://www.geo-orbit.org/sizepgs/mag...l#anchor601698
(warning fairly large magnetic map pics)

wonder if these people may just be mistaking magnetic north for true north ??
(how do zetas find north anyway if there isnt any zeros #-o )

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Surely if you are going to start a conspiracy theory it is best to start with something that might have a grain of truth or reality in it. To start with the preposterous and go downhill from there is just stupid. steve(primus) (Avatar)

If theres no zeros: How many apples you got left when you throw out the last one? A: "theres some left under my fingernail"

Clearly an annoying smarty pants culture.

Bigger question is, if one is cruising around in a car on earth, comes to crossroads with a stop-sign in it, does his brain implode?

Well while we're hovering on the subject, heres another smarty pants/thread hijacking quote:

A guy was asked to say the names of two days of the week starting with the letter T.
His answer: Today and tomorrow...

Hmmm...this show goes out on WWRB on 5.085 on Sunday nights at 9:30 PM...
WGTG is listed as being in Tennessee, but the license information I can find shows it expired back in '02...and WGTG is showing as having a maildrop at Pirate Radio Central...a Googling came up with a posting on a discussion group that seems to indicate that WGTG is back among the legit, supposedly being owned by one of TPTB at WWRB...at least the names match...

In any case, this is one of those 'pay in advance and expound as you please' shortwave stations in the US southeast. I'm sorely tempted to get their rate card, and if it's not too outrageous, we could put together a half hour or so debunking these noodleheads...hmmm...

[cue spooky theme music]...Welcome to The Paid NASA Disinformation Agent's Hour...I'm your host, Agent qlf52...tonight, we discuss why Planet X isn't, when and where men landed on the Moon and the evidence that backs it up, and why Richard Hoagland's insistence in the existence of The Face On Mars is based in the fact that his mommy wouldn't let him play in the mud as a child...we'll be right back after these words from Mad Milton's Used Black Helicopters...[fade spooky theme music]...

Whaddaya say? Who's in this one with me?

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(regular programming fades...)

Announcer:

"Friends, as with so many people in this great land of ours, do you have trouble sleeping at night? Do you find yourself up late worrying about brown dwarves? Do the letters "G", "L", and "P" keep popping into your head? Are you suffering from headaches caused by reading about pole shifts?"

"If any of these symptoms fits you, worry no more. Cutting edge technology and leading edge scientists at the BABB Institute have now developed a guaranteed cure for your malady! What is this miracle medicine that will cause you to hear the word "Nancy" and think it's just an ordinary name? This revolutionary discovery is called "X-Lax" and is available only through this program. Be among the first 100 callers and you'll also receive a free sample of our newest dietary supplement "Hoag-Ban" which will, in just seven days, allow you to look at JPL photographs and see nothing but what's actually there!"

"So, call 888-555-1234 to order these important new advances in strong medicine for weak ideas. The total cost to you is ONLY $19.95 plus shipping, handling, and where applicable, sales tax. Operators are standing by. Please note that this offer is not available in Wisconsin."

"Now back to our regular programming..."


Count me in.



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needs this emotican -->](*,)

to show the wall falling on head....


Me cant stands it n'e mer.

Next thing you know, she'll be handing out pamphlets at the airports....

MAK! What a hoot...My check is in the mail.

!!! =D>

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How much for a case?

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Forget a Case, how much is a Gross?

I'll give them out at the Airport if I have to, just to make it All STOP!

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If you guys need someone to take care of Zetan Hackers count me in!

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Man, that was a close shave!

Take me to your your Lieder!

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I have a QSL card from this station, which means I got a card confirming my reception. I was really bored at the time and even so it required listening for about a half hour... I'm amazed I followed through with it! :wink:
Ooooo, pick me pick me!!! For all interested parties, you can get an hour of transmitting time on shortwave station WBCQ up in Maine for $20 and hour (at least that's how much the cheapest was when I checked). Granted you wouldn't get a very good hour, you'd probably have something in the graveyard shift, but the door is open!

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$20 an hour???

Wow...

Some cassette tapes, some editing software, convert it over to mp3 and burn it to a CD...

...oh boy...

We're gonna have to think long hard and serious about this, y'all...

Gotta go find those schematics for the telephone gizmo so's I can interview over the phone into a tape recorder at the proper levels...

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Lets do it!!!!!!! I am sure we could get enough participants from the east coast....

Count me in! I'll be glad.. :ringing sound: .. Hold on, I have Mt Weather on the phone .. I'll get back to ya..

Well guys, don't get terribly excited just yet: I forgot to mention that you have to get your signal to Maine somehow and pay for that. Which can cost a bundle I've heard.
I'm sure if Archer17 and I wanted to we could either take over Complex Variables Studio or beg for help from Radio Free Bob. :wink:
Don't worry guys, next year when I'm in college I plan to have a radio show. So you guys can be my guest speakers.

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I've seen mention of rates in the $50 to $200 per hour range. Just send your favorite form of recording media to them and they'll broadcast it.

Tom

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