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View Poll Results: When will the world as we know it end?
An asteroid or comet impact will wipe out humanity sooner or later - we're doomed 5 9.09%
The world as we know it will end when the sun becomes a red giant, making earth uninhabitable 6 10.91%
We humans will destroy earth and/or ourselves long before any of the above happens 19 34.55%
We or our descendants will find a way to survive, no matter what happens to this planet 17 30.91%
No answer applies (please leave a comment) 8 14.55%
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Old 25-May-2004, 06:45 PM
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Default The End Is Near - Or Far?

What are your thoughts about the "end of the world as we know it"?
Are the modern Kassandras and Nostradamuses right?
Will we be destroyed soon - or live long and prosper?
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Old 25-May-2004, 07:41 PM
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I'm rather hopeful that the answer about humans surviving no matter what happens will be the answer. However, I chose that it's not possible to answer because we cannot see the future. At least, I cannot. 8)
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Old 25-May-2004, 07:46 PM
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The sun will swell into a red giant far down the road and end this world but by then (unless something unexpected happens) we should be elsewhere to continue our species.
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Old 25-May-2004, 07:55 PM
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Archer, I like your thinking!

Now, do you suppose it could've already happened? I mean, some species elsewhere, long ago, spreading out into the cosmos away from their swelling Red Giant to survive?

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Old 25-May-2004, 08:04 PM
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It's possible A.DIM, assuming this happened in an inhabited solar system :wink:
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Old 25-May-2004, 08:08 PM
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If human beings get wiped out, we will do it to ourselves. No astronomical apocalypse required.
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I believe that Mankind is Gonna be around for a long long time. The Technological Strives made in the last 100 years pales in Comparison to what we will see in the next 20. Things that seem impossible today will be commonplace tommorow. Personaly I Think mankind will eventually move the entire population to a controlled enviroment like a dyson sphere therby rendering the human race immortal for all intents and purposes.

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Old 25-May-2004, 09:54 PM
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Humanity will die out when a group of people decide that its a good idea to train monkies to use guns. After that, we are all doomed.
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Old 25-May-2004, 10:14 PM
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A nuclear war will render this planet completely uninhabitable to anything other than certain bacteria. I'm talking war on a massive scale - 1000-Hiroshima fusion bombs being dropped on everything from isolated villages to bustling cities, setting off nukes at high altitudes to contaminate huge areas, etc.

For what reason? Don't ask. I'll just say that humans have destructive tendencies.
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Old 25-May-2004, 10:38 PM
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Call me an optimist, but I think we'll all die from some zoonotic disease like ebola, long before the sun goes red giant.
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I believe we will survive regardless. Technology is simply moving too fast to keep us on Earth for much longer. The sun will not be an issue for our species.
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I believe we will survive regardless. Technology is simply moving too fast to keep us on Earth for much longer.
Great. So.... monkeys with rayguns, then? I'm serious here. What do we send up into space first? What does Sci-Fi show in experimental pods? Monkeys! We are going to train monkeys to fly spaceships and fire lasers! We're doomed!
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I voted impact. If that doesn't happen, however, and we survive everything past the red giant stage of the sun I say we will die in the eventual heat death of the universe. Either that or the Big Rip, if it happens...
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Old 26-May-2004, 02:14 AM
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Even if we surive the end of the earth we will die sometime out in the universe. It's impossable for us to not.
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Old 26-May-2004, 02:22 AM
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Assuming we avoid the asteroid, self-anhialation, and find some way out of the devestating Reality TV craze. I think humans are survivers. We will populate moons and planets and spread our ilk throughout the galaxy.

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It's impossable for us to not.
Never say never! We could someday transform ourselves into multidimensional super-beings capable of traveling through the very fabric of the universe and discover new realms of existance impervious to extinction.

You were thinking billions of years into the future weren't you?
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Old 26-May-2004, 03:08 AM
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Great. So.... monkeys with rayguns, then? I'm serious here. What do we send up into space first? What does Sci-Fi show in experimental pods? Monkeys! We are going to train monkeys to fly spaceships and fire lasers! We're doomed!
'monkeys'? methinks you mean 'Apes'? some words are better not used around the Librarian... :wink:
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A nuclear war will render this planet completely uninhabitable to anything other than certain bacteria. I'm talking war on a massive scale - 1000-Hiroshima fusion bombs being dropped on everything from isolated villages to bustling cities, setting off nukes at high altitudes to contaminate huge areas, etc.

For what reason? Don't ask. I'll just say that humans have destructive tendencies.
The Hiroshima bomb was not a fusion bomb, and it would take a lot more than a thousand fusion bombs to destroy hummanity. Civilization, maybe, but not humanity alltogether.

Seriously, we aren't as Godly as we often like to think we are. I voted for asteroid impact.
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A nuclear war will render this planet completely uninhabitable to anything other than certain bacteria. I'm talking war on a massive scale - 1000-Hiroshima fusion bombs being dropped on everything from isolated villages to bustling cities, setting off nukes at high altitudes to contaminate huge areas, etc.
The Hiroshima bomb was not a fusion bomb, and it would take a lot more than a thousand fusion bombs to destroy hummanity. Civilization, maybe, but not humanity alltogether.
I think Kebsis meant that each bomb would be 1000 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb.

Personally, I think life will carry on much as it has done for a long time into the future - just muddling along, humanity lurching from political crisis to war to natural disaster and back again, with a fairly normal mixture of happiness and misery. As soon as somebody can make money out of it, we will start to see space-cities, terraforming and colonisation, but only for a few: either the lucky ones (rich people leaving a polluted, crowded Earth) or the unlucky ones (transporting convicts, or perhaps the undesirable ethnic group of the day). But I don't think humanity will be wiped out for a good long while.

PS: Sorry for the gloom, but I have an exam in three hours time
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I'm an optimist, so i'll say that humanity will cling on to this universe and refuse to let go under any circumstances... except in the case of the heat death of the universe, where we may meet our final end or find some way of entering a new universe.

I dislike the idea of space travel being the exclusive preserve of either a wealthy elite or a despised underclass (or both)
Space travel should be made cheap, safe, and convenient as soon as possible. 'the stars for all' should be an important aphorism for us to remember.

Cheap space travel would mean the easier collection of the goodies that space contains; Water and metals in asteroids, gases from Jupiter et al, and other resources from the rocky moons and planets.
And perhaps, petrochemical resources from extrasolar planets.

I contend that if we survive the disaster that Nature and human stupidity throw at us, then we can carve our name on the universe.
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I voted on "We humans will destroy earth and/or ourselves long before any of the above happens" because its true. Blowing things up is our nature and its bound to happen...
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I'm pretty sure we'll conquer everything we can get to. The stepping stones have already been found. I voted we'd last for 'ever.' At least the ever afforded us buy this universe. Maybe during the big rip or heat death the gateway to the multi-verse will open and we'll step outside of time and space and get to see the big picture, verify a few string-theory verifiables, then find a way to become athereal beings composed primarily of energy.
NOTE: Don't rely on technology so much. If that asteroid impacted tomorrow, and 99% of people died, where would are technology be?
How many people does it take to make 1 cup of coffee in the morning? Thousands. Water, electric, the coffee can, the can opener, the coffee maker, sugar and milk if that's your thing, the house your in and the cup your driniking from were all made by other people, sometimes YEARS in advance... Lots of forethought was put into your having 1 cup of coffee in the morning. If any part of that chain failed, you'd find it easier to just drink water or if that was what failed, you'd go down to the creek and take a sip...
It would take FOREVER to get back to where we are now if we either killed most of each other, or if nature does it for us.
And don't get me started on the infrastructure required to make or manufacture these technologies on a different planet, moon, or whatever...
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