- http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta110.htm

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Darn, you beat me by two minutes.

I almost fell out of my chair when I read this one. AND, it those Zeta guys are so STO, why don't they push PX out of the solar system?

Is anybody buying this crap?

No. Even the GLPers are yelling at her to shut up and go away.

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Ha. That thread is fun. I'd like to see her get angry though, I haven't seen many threads like that. Then again I rarely ever go to GLP.

Hello,

Well, I whipped out a reply to her claim; and we'll see if anyone replies to it. I expect, as most of the time, to be ignored, but oh, well.

Hello,

Hm. Well I, with my fabulous record of 100 percent accuracy; and remaining white-lie free, will examine this...

Nancy wrote:
That´s silly. Particularly as SOHO wasn´t necessary to SEE the Venus transit.

No, it hasn´t, but that is because it has been moving precisely as predicted. If it had NOT been moving as predicted, the tides would have been off, and GoTo an Equatorial telescopes would be unable to locate and track it. It is *amazing* how dense the Zetas remain on this simple point.

No. The EVIDENCE shows that it did not happen.

And untrue. Remember, if the Zetas were correct, NO GOTO OR EQUATORIAL MOUNTED SCOPE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WOULD BE ABLE TO TRACK *ANYTHING.* That means nothing, nada, zilch. They have NO WAY of compensating for unpredictable motions of Earth; or of the other planets. The fact they DO predict the motions means that they are, by defintion, predictable. If they are predictable, no unpredictable motion has occured. QED.

Oh, thr IRONY of that statement!! Nancy, I have a clear defintion of what would need to happen, or what observaiton I would have to make, for be to accept your PX theory as likely, or fact. Tell me, oh TELL ME, what could POSSIBLY be shown to you to even POSSIBLY convince you that PX, as the Zetas describe it to you, doesn´t exist? Those who live in glass houses...

Well, actually, the *second* that Venus appeared before the Sun at ALL, on the date predicted centuries ago, the theory of unpredictably moving planets was shot down UTTERLY. However, I smell a magical excuse coming....

What?!?!?
REALLY?!?!?!?

Then tell me, oh great speaker of the Zetas:

WHY DO THE ZETAS REFUSE TO PUSH EARTH OUT OF THE WAY OF IMPENDING PLANET X?

You are now claiming that the Zetas DO have the power to reverse the terrible calamaity that is upon us; simply by pushing Earth out of the way. They can do it. They just did it to Venus. But they choose not to.

With great power comes great responsibility: if the pole shift were to happen: THE ZETAS THEMSELVES ARE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. BY THEIR OWN WORDS.

If the Zetas DO exist; you have just demonstrated that those who call them evil demons have quite the leg to stand on, my dear. They have the power to save the Earth. They choose not to use it.

Wouldn´t it be easier to allow the transit to FAIL? If THAT happened, the death of Ronald Reagan would be on page 27 of the New York Times. NOTHING would matter excpet that the Earth is moving wildly, unpredictably, at that the end might, in fact, be nigh.

Which it isn´t...

Well, since the phenomna you describe is an optical illusion, it will NEVER go away. Not so long as there is a Sun.

There weren´t any anomalies. There were very faint sunspots, and Venus proudly moving across the face exactly as predicted. What are you talking about?

This is NOT the time you should be talking about nails in coffins, my dear.

Different specks on different shots *don´t matter.* All that matters is that Venus transited the Sun exactly as predicted. Now you are claiming the Zetas *pushed* Venus there.

Why?

If Venus had NOT transited as expected, it would have proved the Zetas case! Suddenly, EVERYONE would be looking for an explanation; and the ONLY one would be that Zetatalk is correct! Instead, the Zetas play these head games with you; and yet you continue to defend their actions!

But what you are claiming is that the Zetas can stop the pole shift altogether. They have the power: they have DEMONSTRATED the power: they have used the power to, once again, FOOL the populous into thinking all is normal in the heavens, by conspiring to make everything in the heavens look like it is behaving precisely as I, and science, predict: they choose not to use their power to *save* the Earth from the Pole Shift. It´s okay for them to drag Venus around, but not the Earth; oh no.

That means, if PX ever did come (assuming it existed in the first place) and annihilated 90 percent of the population: THE ZETAS THEMSELVES ARE RESPONSIBLE. Worse than any atrocities of the Nazi, or any other, regime on the face of our little planet.

COLLABORATOR!

Either that; or the skies are normal, Earth continues as it always has; and you are merely WILDLY mistaken in your belief about how the Solar System is moving, and the voices in your head.

Tell me, which do YOU think a rational person would choose?

Is there *ANY* evidence or any observation you can think of that would allow you to change your mind?

Thank you,

Jonathan
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Is this not the wildest, craziest claim yet??????

Good Lord, I cannot believe she posted that on her site!

And your right, if the Zetas are so STO, then why not PUSH PX AWAY?

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy [-X

Wow. Amazing. Even the GLPers are tired of her.

I am now sure that Nancy is mentally ill. No sane woo-woo would carry it on this long.

Then again, "sane woo-woo" is the definition of "oxymoron"...

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Sadly, I haven't posted in a while, happily, I see nothing has changed per the Nancy. As the most amateur of amateur quasi-puesdo astronomers that I am, Hey, I have a telescope, and soft ware, I agree that the Reticuli constellation exists, I agree that the twin stars exist as their ngc catalog numbers indicate.

But I have to tell ya, I wouldn't trust the judgement of one of those Zeta guys as far as I can throw them, if they trust this loon to intrepret their message, man they is off base. I think Nancy touched the mirror that said "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" drove her nuts.

I'm starting to get really ticked off with Nancy now. I mean, has she no idea how much mess a mouthfull of coffee all over your keyboard and monitor actually makes? :P

I've posted before about how each time she posts something, I'm stunned at how she actually manages to make it even crazier than the last time... and every time when I think she must have posted the craziest thing possible already, somehow she manages to top it again.

Once more, I thought that surely we must have reached the limit. And then this:








mere emoticons however, cannot express...

Krill

FWIW, SOHO did not see a transit. It is not in a line between the Earth and the Sun, because the Sun is a huge radio source, and would make communication with SOHO impossible. So SOHO orbits around the L1 point. It was "north" of the ecliptic during the transit, far enough that Venus passed south of the Sun from its vantage point.

Face it: the transit was the last nail in Nancy's PX coffin. Now we need to see what codswallop Hazlewood and McCanney will spew...

Obi wan: I sense...a great distrubance in the force...
Luke: What is it master?
Obi wan: The simutaneous dropping of billions of people's IQ...oh what could cause such a calamity...

I seriously think my IQ dropped after reading that one.

I put this togethor a few weeks ago. Mostly out of boredom now that I'm out of college until the fall.

Questions Nancy Lieder won't answer

Before anyone asks... all my storm damage has been cleaned up, I'm not working right now... so the answer is ----> no, I don't have anything better to do.

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Once again, as with so many other things, there's a scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail that fits and comments on this almost perfectly:

We've chopped off Nancy's theoretical arms and legs (leaving the head alone) and still she attempts to claim not a draw, but victory. When will the bleeding stop? :roll:

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This part really "cracked me up"! I can just imagine a bashful Venus, having misgivings about the transit until those "helpful" Zetas forced it into submission. What a maroon.

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How come it's only half the page?

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Good analogy Maksutov.

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I must not PX. PX is the mind-killer. I will face my PX. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the PX has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

=D> Though I was also thinking of "... and that's how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped" "This new learning amazes me"

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Thanks.

Another subsequent line (slightly modified, forgive me Pythons) may be even more relevant,

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Uhm... even if some alleged psychically-channeled extraterrestrials "pushed" Venus across, wouldn't it still be a transit? :-s

On a side note, I'm getting a kick out of the ad at the bottom of the page stating "See the Venus transit live!".
Bit late innit? Or are they just really planning ahead?

*Edited to add: Now the ad's gone. Must be part of the elaborate cover-up.

Supposedly it only went partway across. What evidence she has for this is beyond me.

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ops: Oh.

I tried reading the "Bait and Switch" posting but after a few sentences my eyes started to cross -- must have missed that part. Not that it makes any sense regardless.

Here it is, completely uncovered, for what it's worth.

Remember there are still some sites out there selling tickets to Stanley Cup games, too.

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Bah! Spoil all my fun why don't ya.

Because I link to each section a little further down. Right below where it says "On to the questions". Sorry about that. I could have been a little more clear on that I guess.

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Not to derail this thread but Nancy says she found a piece a unwrapped Starburst and all the sudden that means the world's gonna end? Umm.... Has she always been this illucid?

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The answer to that is yes.

For proof, see her site, or go to the "sticky" post in this forum about her "debate" with me on the radio last year. One of us made lots and lots of sense, and the other did not. I leave it to you to sort out who did what. 8)

I agree that she never made much sense, but her ravings have become a lot more irrational/illucid in the last few months. Nothing was happening with PX. People were seeing thru the lens flare hoaxes despite her creative names for the same images. As it became harder to maintain her delusional system, she had to produce ever-more bizzare stuff. The Earth stopping in its orbit, the Dark Twin, the Zetas moving Venus, etc.

It ain't easy maintaining an irrational system!

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You know, why didn't I think about Planet X? I would be famous right now if I did!

Hello,

Well, I see Nancy is now trying to explain her 'Zetas Moved Venus bit..."

Godlike post

Zetatalk page

She has also done reorganization of the 'New ZT;' Looks to me like she's moving her failed predictions slowly off.

Quite droll, really.

Jonathan
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