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An Alternative History WI ("What If?") question:
The three basic explanations for the 1887 Michelson-Morley null result are either that the Earth isn't moving round the Sun, that there is a local Ether moving with the Earth, or the most favoured, that there is no Ether. But what if the MM result had not been null, with clear interference fringes showing up, proving beyond doubt that the Earth was moving at 18 miles per second through an absolutely stationary Ether? It would end geocentrism for sure (cheers from some!). But it would also indicate that there is an Ether. How would the history of science have differed, if at all, over the last 130 Relativity-free years? Would science have gone off on a totally different path? There would have been no need for Einstein to formulate his 1905 STR to explain the null result, & he would probably have remained an unknown. The development of the A bomb would still eventually have happened, since Einstein was the last to derive E=mc^2, which was known before Relativity. The real question is: knowing there was an Ether, would so much effort by everyone have been put into tapping into it that by now we would have "free energy" devices & motors, like those craved for today by the sizeable minority who still believe in the Ether? http://www.mountainman.com.au/aetherqr.htm |
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-Allais' Re-Analysis of Miller Some Exerpts (1) No Action at a Distance 1. No action at a distance is conceivable without the existence of intermediary medium. All known actions, gravitational, optical, electromagnetic, propagate through a medium, the aether. 2. The attraction according to Newton's law of the inverse square of the distance or Ampere's formulas are not actions at a distance. They result from local actions which propagate progressively across space through the aether. Thus the Newtonian action (apparently at a distance) boils down to two local equations: http://www.mountainman.com.au/aether_7.htm |
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However, this is an extremely redundant what if, as there's little reason to consider the possibilities of reality itself being different. Scientific theory is guided by the nature of reality, so the only way to get it to progress differently is to change reality. People try to do that unsuccessfully all the time. |
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Consult Prof Allais ... http://allais.maurice.free.fr/English/Science.htm and please remember that this man is a Nobel laureate!
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Might this be a case of double standards? |
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Do we have a satisfactory explanation for how it works right now?
I think the EU model may come closer to explaining much of it, without recourse to FAIRIE dust - Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend Untenable Scientific Theories! ![]() |
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See the relevant thread - The new EU paradigm.
BTW, you are yet to offer any evidence for Dark Matter and Dark Energy. OK, so you say that scientific methods are being used in the search, but you can use similar methods to search for Leprechauns, and it don't mean you'll find them. Show us the evidence! |
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Things might not be as different as you would think. For the sake of argument, let's say that M&M botched the experiment and got a non-null result. Einstein would have still published his 1905 paper. Einstein did say around 1950 that he did not know about the MM experiment until after his 1905 paper, although there is evidence that he may have read it, but it was not his motivation for writing the paper. The main motivation was to account for the paradoxes implied by Maxwell's equations and to provide a mechanical basis for the Lorentz transform. Remember that the MM experiment did not cause ether to be instantly rejected by all physicists. There were still plenty of scientists who firmly believed that ether existed, or at least demanded that any etherless theory explain the observed behavior of light (refraction, interference, etc). In retrospect, the MM experiment killed the ether theory, but that was not obvious until much later. In this alternative history, the 1905 paper would have perhaps forced a closer look at the MM experiment, since SR and a non-null MM result are incompatible.
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http://allais.maurice.free.fr/English/media12-6.htm and his claim that they indicate a non-null result seems formidable, does it not? Where do you think Allais' case fails?
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