Woo-woo's never fail to impress me with their "impressions"... It's all so very scientific! :wink: Check this out about the "wobbling moon":
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...cgi?read=51570

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And I thought that it was only Grant that didn't understand that depending on where you are that the moon rotates between 0° (for a viewer at the at the poles) and 180° (for a viewer at the equator) between rising and setting. For most of Europe and the US as well as down under it's between 60° and 100° over a 12 hour period.

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It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality. --- JayUtah

You can't reason an irrational person out of an irrational belief. --- Noclevername

Apollo: The History and the Hoax
Enter the World of Athran

wow... the nonsense on that 'forum' is piled so high you'll need wings to stay above it (quote adapted from Apocalypse Now') :roll:

everything is a conspiracy it seems... ](*,)

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Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? -- Groucho Marx

Pity it seems to be only a 'reading room'.. I was going to post somthing entirely relevant there along the lines of Mornington Crescent 8)

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Are you a Bright?

One of the posters there started a sentence with these words...

Richard Hoagland said...

Yeah...scientific investigation at it's best!

Several threads on GLP all a quiver with posts about the "...moon rising in the south...," and generally ending with "..something is wrong...." #-o

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Standing on the shoulders of giants...

And the Sun's too high in the sky, too, ain't it? Well, golly gee, this must be the work of the all powerful US Government. They've been out to manipulate the celestrial bodies for millenia now.

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"I'm making wheatloaf. It's like meatloaf, only with wheat"
"Isn't that just...bread?"

gotta love it. I particularly liked the thread title:


the selection of emoticons is inadequate to fully express etc. etc... but I guess #-o will have to do.

Regards
Krill

My wings were quickly mired in the muck. It took a shovel.

Big one.

AND THIS JUST IN - SUN RISES IN THE EAST AND SETS IN THE WEST
FILM AT 11

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I had *so* promised myself I wouldn't read the 'Planet X' section any more! I was 99% certain it was crap by January of 2003 (only a fool would say 100% certain, since, well, it's foolish to be that certain...must leave a little room for reasonable doubt). But here I am. #-o
What I want to know is this: do *any* of the people who make remarks like "the moon is rising in the south" -or other such absurdities- *ever, ever* take five minutes and wander their happy posteriors outside and take a look with their own two eyes at the moon and/or its movement, or hell, just in the general direction of the sky?!
I like the 'Net and technology in general, but for cryin' out loud! How many hours of life are squandered by people reading, accepting and getting stressed out about things they read online that they could easily refute by peering out a window or making the journey outside? It's sad really.
Seems as I've gotten older I've adopted the outlook espoused by Canadian rockers Rush: "Show me, don't tell me." I like to be able to check things out for myself. If they hold water (in unison with mainstream positions or not), fine. If they don't, they get tossed into some equivalent of 'The WPB Circulatory File (trash)'.
Sorry. I realize this post (like many of mine, past and present) isn't the most scientific or astronomy-based, but this kind of thing (re: the moon) makes me nuts and must be gotten off my chest periodically, lest I run screaming into the night. Bottom line to those concerned about this or that they read online: check, double check and then do it all again -see for yourself whenever possible. We now return you to the regularly scheduled thread... 8-[

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"Night time is delight time, it's starlight time and it's the right time for me." -Brian Wilson

Jerod S. V2.0,

Here's a bit of practical poetry that might summarize this:


When I Heard the Learn'd HBer*


When I heard the learn'd HBer,

When the claims, the conjectures, were ranged in rants before me,

When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to be impressed by them, but not too closely examine,

When I, sitting at my computer heard the HBer where he discoursed with much applause in the chat-room and the bulletin board, and website,

How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,

Till rising and gliding out I wandered off by myself,

In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,

Look'd up in perfect silence at the unchanged order of the stars.



*with apologies to Walt Whitman

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it's clear to me that woo-woo people enjoy making things up to keep themselves occupied. Me, I turn my attention to pen and paper (or keyboard and Word) when inspired to write fiction....

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"Don't worry, everything is getting nicely out of control." -Douglas Adams

After reading that thread, I think I've found one quote that basically sums it all up.

=D>

Has anyone told them that:
1.) The moon doesn't actually rotate as it travels through the sky.
2.) If they watched closely, they would see that the sky rotates with the moon.
3.) But the sky isn't ACTUALLY rotating.
4.) It's the earth that's rotating.
5.) It has been doing that for longer than man has been around.
6.) If it didn't, the sun wouldn't rise or set.
7.) Nor would the moon, which APPEARS to rotate as it moves through the sky........

Many times. Their rebuttals would make your head explode.

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Revolve. The word's revolve. Coming in here and saying that the Moon doesn't rotate is akin to saying that it's a small Dyson sphere with a white dwarf star in the centre of it, inhabited by LGM. With a failing power supply. About to fall out of orbit. While the Riders of Rohan are racing to save it. And your ex-wife took away your children.

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"I'm making wheatloaf. It's like meatloaf, only with wheat"
"Isn't that just...bread?"