Okay I've been thinking of makign a thread on my thoughts of the US using one possible alien crash and just letting peoples imaginations get wildly out of hand, possibly adding some spice of purposefull sightings of their "secret works".

The US government isn't dumb, it may only be a few hundred years old but they do have some bright sparks who know how to manipulate people and they have full control over the media in america aswell as their "black squads" which are essentialy government killers TTBOMK, they seem to just be mercs but using state of the art US tech. I state this to show the power of them because they apparently have ammunition costs of which aren't attributed to firing ranges, they use chinooks, humvee's, APC's yet never been in combat.

To me the above seems a bit odd that they would even have a side task force group which was never used but flew about in their chinooks with M-16's and P90's. If this group does do anything its very well covered up. (and im not saying they have done anything cause i do have NO evidence no one that has seen anything that they've done would dare or are alive to say either.) But if this group has the power to fly about in helicopters and it be covered up wouldn't it have been simple for the US government to simply assasinate the big UFO nuts before people started listening.

With the Hoagland thread it was stated that people only believe him because he insults people that disagree and he just makes so many claims that people begin to believe. He's a performer, much like the major UFOists which IIRC he is attending a seminar or something related to UFO's.

I don't believe in little gray men coming to earth and sticking probes up peoples rectums or mutilating cows. what could they learn? apart from our body temperature and what we ate 3 days ago not much and the claims that the 'grays' have no emotions is completly absurde, emotions are chemicals which are fundimental to life. Fear is an emotion which triggers self preservation which helps someone kill an attacker.
On the emotions note i dont think i remember reading a claim of these 'grays' having no emotions until star trek the original became big with the emotionless vulkans, subconcious dreams? think so.

I think the US government has been using these UFO claims as cover for their actions, while everyones looking to the skys they can do what they want because no one is looking at area 52 for example (if there is one) as everyone knows that aliens are in area 51 so why would we care about the others? we wouldn't and we dont look!

Okay im going to post this and just state the italics are in for fun and maybe they will point out im not making a claim here just thoughts, no evidence im just thinking on my feet for now.
Looking forward to other peoples posts

Well, if you have no evidence, then how do you postulate such an idea?

I could also argue that I have no evidence, and I think that purple flying elephants exist.

Where's the connection?

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Purple flying elephants do exist i whole heartedly agree

The idea started after 5 pints, 3 vodka shots and my friends lemon vodka merang pie (dont ask how its made). But like its irregular beginning i still find it odd that the american government with its controlling the media would allow all the stuff being said about aliens been real (which i do tend to believe in) but visiting us and people claims just make me want to cry either with laughter or like when watching those adverts where you feel so humiliated for the person in them that you feel like crying.

Single people claims have been diagnosed as mental delusion in some cases. sightings on mass i am more likely to believe as mass halusinations dont exist for whole city sightings like their has been in some places, but their must be a better explination then they thought they'd come to earth to test some people... if they were coming to earth why bother cause they obviously dont have animal rights on their planet(s) so why come to ours... because were inteligent? sometimes i believe that is till far off and even at times i believe its far off in myself.

It's paranoid delusional people, and the media as you've outlined in your post above. The government never made these things up, the general public did.

This alone shows that the government could care less about what a few crackpots think. They obviously don't take the matter seriously otherwise something would be done about it no?

I don't believe myself that the american government is as controlling towards the media as many people may believe. Sure they control things that could breach national security, but pretty much anything else goes with the exception of censorship to keep the childrens ears from bleeding.

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I agree US media isn't checked with a fine nit comb but i think its purely the people that make american tv so non liberal, I live in the UK and enjoy tv shows which in the states would be considered slander and distasteful.
One example i'll take is 2DTV, were President Bush swaps the white house for a bouncy castle one so that the bombs will bounce off it. after about 30 seconds of jumping in it he gets bored and decides to play darts. He pops the white house and his military advisor has to blow up the white house. On another mention President Bush preffers to listen to his military advisors sock pupet named proffesor leabstrom IIRC. When i was in the states i saw nothing like this and im a comedy junky and thats what i find easily on tv.

No offence, or is it offense?

But most British comedy that I've seen on tv is pretty dry.

I live in canada by the way, and living so close to the US, we get quite a bit of tv from there. Canadian censorship is a lot more lenient as well. It's not uncommon to see some nude flick on a regular cable station after 9pm. Swearing is taken much lighter over here too.

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I agree alot of british humor is dry, but alot of american is taken right out of the toilet bowl. But alot of british humor is also very dark to name a few: the young ones, black books, blackadder...
I've just seen the trailor for a show which says "one simple joke could tear this family apart" its one of the reality tv shows that the americans thought up themselves and i've seen the show and i simply think its sick, 1 million dollars and possibly losing all your family and friends. hmm funny joke

Anyway this is off the point of a government cover-up or is it :roll:
I even take my own idea of a cover up with a pinch of salt, but with aliens landing on earth and making crop circles give me all the damn salt in the world and it still wouldn't be enough.

Now you're on the right track.

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The point of my posting was mainly for the idea of seeing how many people would agree on aliens taking million light year trips to stick a probe up our rectums or just people who smoked too much in the 60's and thought their car was traveling down an intergalactic bypass.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. An example, (that the BA used during his "Mt. Tam" talk) is NASA's re-imaging of the Cydonia region. It wasted valuble spacecraft imaging time and served no useful purpose. Those that believe that there's a "face" there, still believe that there's a "face" there! The US government might not be "dumb", but they sure do dumb things.

You have to give them some credit bush only learnt to tie shoe laces last year up until then he was using those nike shoe's with velcro on

Electro, please take your trash talk somewhere else. This is not the place for your unfounded speculations.

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for a joke on the american government being dumb actualy

At least go to Babbling, but you should probably just keep it to yourself. It is rude.

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Their are many advanced technological secrets being held at Roswell. If an individual attempts to come within 3 miles of the facilty they are immediately stopped at gun point and arrested. The whole area says 'go away'. They are hiding something their are assure you. If it were just a standard military base they woudln't detain, arrest, and interrogate lost tourists.

Why do you think technology has improved so much in the last 20 years? We have had contact with extra-terrestrials for years now. The government just doesn't want you to know. I am glad you have opened your eyes to this.

I have no comment on purple elephants, I think that is a silly concept with no place in an intelligent forum.

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Advanced technology does not equal aliens. How about research? Could that possibly have anything to do with it?

BTW you seem to be talking about Area 51, which is not in Roswell. Nice try though.

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The Roswell crash landings are directly connected to Area 51.

The story goes something like this:

Aliens crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Their bodies and all technology salvged from the crash were taken to Area 51 for study.

Umpteen years later technology moves faster than it ever has ... ever before.

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OK.

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Show me a military base that holds unanoucned to the public modern tech (like the stealth fighter was) that does allow people to walk leisurely onto its grounds.

Sure technology has jumped leaps and bounds in the past few years, but that has been happeneing with increasing amouns for the last two hundred years, It just gets faster as information is more readily acessed.

I can assure you if you drive up to most military bases, even if it has secret weapons somewhere secure and claim to be lost they will assist you at the first guard stop.

What they won't do is meet you 3 miles before you are anywhere near the base immediately detain you AT GUN POINT , refuse to listen to anything you say as to where you are there, and then interrogate you for up to 24 hrs.

This is pretty much the defacto procedure. Their are people that try to get to the base daily but on occasion regular people are stopped in the same way.

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If the government doesn't want us to know, how are you privy to this? Dr. Buster, you have yet to provide evidence for anything you've posted and don't seem to have a grasp of the subjects you bring up as your Roswell/Area 51 confusion shows, yet you claim you are a recognized UFO researcher! You shouldn't need the reason Area 51 is off-limits to the public explained to you. Technology is always improving and it hasn't been confined to the last 20 years. Roswell "happened" in '47, so why did we wait until the '80s to start improving our technology? If you're going to claim it took us that long to reverse-engineer the alien technology, then explain the technological advances prior to 1947. How about the period 1925-1945?