Hope this isn't ToSeeked yet-
Russian Astrologer Sues NASA over Deep Impact Mission

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You absolutely, positively, completely, unalterably, HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

If EVERYTHING such as a comet or asteroid affects human psychology, astrologically speaking, then astrology is indeed invalid. Because we don't even know of or about a fraction of these bodies in our own solar system! If the thousands upon thousands of bodies in the Kupier Belt or Oort cloud/halo effect us, but we don't know where 99.999999% of of them even ARE, how can anyone claim to make an accurate astrological forecast?

GRRR!!!



SIGH

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[breathes normally]

CJSF

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Heh, I was just about to post this.

Hoo boy...

Wow! This guy must have been sent into a mental collapse when Jupiter destroyed Comet Shoemaker-Levy!

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Maybe NASA should submit this paper to the Russian court: Misconceptions: Astrology, the case would then have to be thrown out (or the astrologist would have to prove that astrology is real and by the time they give up Deep Impact would be several years done and gone).

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My my, just when I though I'd seen the most ludicrous lawsuit ever, along comes another to take the title...

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Relieved to see that Americans aren't the only ones tying up their courts with frivolous lawsuits. Here's hoping that a Russian judge will throw this one out as quickly as possible.

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The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

Has the person who claims ownership of the solar system contents said anything about this? Sounds like prime real estate is about to be altered.

Every so often in my travles across the vast network of networks known as the internet, I come across something that makes me question my confidence in the human race. This is one of them. #-o

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Sadly, this article is full of misinformation and half-truths as well as just being full of....well, you know.
No explosives on board and the comet won't be blasted to smithereens.
Copper based explosive??? Can I have some? Try "the copper impactor will be released and comet Tempel-1 will run into it at a high rate of speed. Possibly creating a crater as large as a stadium (depending on the comet's actual makeup)
And another:
Huh???
Truest statement in the article.
Would an "expert" really say that???
This is my first post. Sorry all for being long-winded about this but I just had to get it off my chest. Frivalty seems to be a world-wide epidemic.

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Welcome, Rickycardo. Thanks for pointing out the "copper based explosive" mis-statement. I didn't even notice that when I read the article.

CJSF

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Two years ago moved from my town
I was looking up past the city lights
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See the constellation ride across the sky
No cigar, no lady on his arm
Just a guy made of dots and lines

-from "See The Constellation"
by They Might Be Giants

Thanks for the welcome. I forgot to list my source in my last post so here it is:
http://deepimpact.jpl.nasa.gov
My guess to the explosive statement is that NASA gives a TNT equivilent in kinetic energy. An explosive tipped impactor would give very false readings when looking for crater size. I guess in all those years as an Army combat engineer I did learn something. #-o

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If everything in the sky affects people's horrorscopes, then what did Skylab and Mir do to people and what does the ISS do? How about all of the other satellites we have put up there? If my astrologer does not take into account every piece of space debris (in addition to all the comets and asteroids) present at my birth, then I want my money back!

Sure. An expert astrologer would.

(And maybe a Nancy Leider expert would, too.)

Heh, but given any two Astrology experts, try getting them to agree what the effect is.

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(Bolding mine.)
Anyone else sense a certain disconnect here? This fellow is a trained physicist and he believes in astrology? The two seem somewhat incompatible. :wink:

I know he's not the one filing suit, but I can't help feeling that "Portnov's Complaint" has a certain ring to it!

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You might be giving him too much credit here...
The more I think about this issue, the more irrate I become. This is exactly what BA is using his time and resources for this website to fight. I feel the average person will read that news article and take the information in it at face value. They won't go to NASA's website or dig for the truth anywhere. They will think "what if something DOES happen?" "What if chunks of comet fall from the sky?" "Maybe our tax money is better spent elsewhere than blowing up stuff in the sky?"
How much money is allocated in NASA's budget to fight frivilous lawsuits? Zero? If so, what projects will have money taken away to fight these? Were will it end? Will we see the Hoagland's and Leider's of the world filing suit against science to write the world as they see it? Will Nasa's future projects be decided by who gets offended the least? Or worse, decided by the courts instead of scientists?
I thought this issue was funny when I first read it, but in a way, it scares me. I hope intelligence wins out over nonsense.
I'm sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now. My apologies to all for my rantings.

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Most likely, and that's my point. The article refers to Portnov as a physicist, but doesn't elaborate with any credentials or specify where he works as a physicist, so I think the label is suspect. Unfortunately, no such credentials are necessary for one advertising himself as an astrologer.
(And a belated welcome to the board, Rickycardo.)

Hahaha!! If you click on the link for the article you will find that it has been EDITED!! Yes, that's right. They changed what the article originally said. [-X You'll notice NO MENTION of copper-based explosive! Too funny!

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I liked the part about the Russian Space Agency having no comments

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I think I have seen it all now!!

I wounder if they are reading what we are writing?



btw

This scares me greatly- imagine if they won!


If the judge is a 'beliver' then....

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Well, then he probably takes Carter's Little Pills, and everything will be all right. :wink:

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It's all a plot by NASA, they are going to blast this COmet onto a new orbit that will crash it into Mars and bring water to the planet as part of a Terraforming project.

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Yup, it's all prime realestate at that point and since the rovers are there with the american flag we have Emanant Domain. Or a variation of a spelling thereof... for which... too whit

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*groans* Some people make my brain go woozy. Some people also make me wonder "What would people do for cash?"

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And as a Pagan, I don't want people tromping all over the moon either!! That's sacred land that belongs to the moon godess!!! [-(


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All this will follow various trajectories that were worked out over a half century ago by Immanuel Velikovsky! :wink:

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I hereby file suit aganiest everyone on the planet, why? Because i own all that exists

Now everyone will have to pay royalties \/