If you are interested, the movie is made of 2 still pictures, taken by the rover in different moments of time.

I do not change the pictures, just present them to viewer with different longevity.

:P

Do you do this on other forums as well?!

What, are you jelous?

Jealous? No... something else...

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You have too much time on your hands my friend. I find your posts really boring.

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Boring and silly actually. I have to admit Extrasense, that you have an incredibly active imagination, however your techniques are wanting.

You are only looking at two shot taken with two different filters. 90 seconds is enough time for the sun to move, changing the shadows and angle of reflection. Furthermore, 90 seconds is the time it takes for the rover to change its filter.

A short lesson on rover images. An image is taken and transmitted to Earth. The image team waits for the new image to download, then takes a look at different features in the image. The rover is usually commanded to take a series of images using different filters. This takes a bit of time. As the new images come down the image team reviews them to see what the composition of the landscape around the rover is made of.

If there is something interesting--like say, a rock showing a different thermal emission, the team will radio a command to the rover to take a second series of images, or move towards the object, or whatever they decide. Once again, they wait for the new images or information to be downloaded, review it for anything interesting, then decide the next step they want the rover to take.

Your suggestion that the images you have transposed somehow reflect anything other than a change of sunlight angle are laughable. I an beginning to agree with the comment that this does not belong in the alternative theories forum--we don't have a joke forum, so maybe the "other topics" forum. Anyone disagree?

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I disagree on a few fronts. First is that the Other Stories Section is something where we normally have a short-lived discussion about another story as some news item appears somewhere. This doesn't belong there since it is getting updated on a continuing basis. I kind of see it as comic relief in the Alternative Theories area, but I agree that it is getting boring and repetitive. She's about to wear out her welcome.

Concerning your scenario for how NASA chooses to reshoot an image, you make it sound like they do it more quickly than they actually do. They give a bunch of orders to take images, and store them up. Sometimes they don't actually see the images for several days. They need to transmit the images to an orbiting craft, such as MGS, and then schedule a download session to a tracking station for that craft.

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I say we just keep it here and have a laugh at ES. :P B)

Actually Antoniseb, they can communicate in the space of a few minutes when they choose to and when the planet isn't blocking direct transmission. The rovers both have high-gain antennas which allow direct communication with Earth, although you are still talking about a turn-around time of several 10's of minutes.

You are right though, the bulk of the image transfers are done via orbiting probes.

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Humanity must rise above the Earth, to the top of the atmosphere and beyond, for only then will we fully understand the world in which we live.~Socrates, 500 B.C. ~

Let every man judge according to his own standards, by what he has himself read, not by what others tell him. ~Albert Einstein~

So,
the majority opinion seems to be, that:

1. NASA babes did not get to Mars yet

2. The big crustation/fossil that they are playing inside, is a rock

3. That playing inside is an illusion, produced by changing filters


This is why a collective is not good in science at all


ES

What science? You look at a couple of pictures ignoring how, when, and where those images were taken, and then make up the most outlandish explanation for what you think you see. I sometimes see giant fluffy bunnies in the shapes of clouds, but that doesn't mean that the Earth has been invaded by the giant fluffy bunny monsters!!!

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...and we'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent life forms everywhere; and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys...

Actually, it is why a collective results in the best science. Stops the interpretation of one person from being accepted without critiscim or debate.

Like this thread--you post your pictures, we all look and see them as BS, you see conspiracy.

I still don't see your nasa babies by the way. I liked the skull, that was pretty good. The lamb or pig or whatever was stupid. The ice-cream cone or whatever was plain ridiculous.

It is fun to look at the pictures though, right?

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Humanity must rise above the Earth, to the top of the atmosphere and beyond, for only then will we fully understand the world in which we live.~Socrates, 500 B.C. ~

Let every man judge according to his own standards, by what he has himself read, not by what others tell him. ~Albert Einstein~

John, that's exactly the point I made in one of ES's other ridiculous topics. Anyone can see clouds in the shape of dragons, but that doesn't mean the clouds really ARE dragons.

Again, as I've said before, anyone with a bit of imagination can look at these photos and see things that aren't there and come up with the most ridiculous ideas as a result.

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing - a little imagination can be a lot worse!

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Me too.

Aww, come on, DH, don't say that! Remember, this is not ES's imagination...how do we know she even believes what she is posting?

Plus, if Fraser or any of the mod's let ES reach up to 100 posts, I'm gonna be ****ed...

Why should that matter? If she straightens out and starts contributing something a little more constructive elsewhere, she might eventually hit 100, maybe more.

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Well, Anton, you know what I meant! <_< :P :angry:
If ES makes 100 posts about this same insane topic I'll be ****ed. But it's unlikely poor ES will ever regain insanity (and by "re" I still think he/she never had sanity).

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StarLab, you're using *another* name? See, this is my point: having 4 or 5 different names just causes confusion. I knew who you were because I can see your IP number and you responded to anton as though you were StarLab.

RE NoSense, I did my part to stop her.

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You know what, DH...
So what if he responds like I do? So what if the IP is the same for a few users? It shouldn't make a difference! Hey, at least you know who we/they are!
Although, DH, that last post I made should have been under the username StarLab...sorry if I had confused you there.
At least you know I'm not good at formulating multiple personalities .

IP's aren't identical for two different users using two different PC's unless it's in a shared environment. You've said yourself you use different usernames. All I'm saying is that it's confusing for everyone and that you should probably just stick to one username.

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Dont' worry. I'll narrow it. I promise. Just don't get on my case too much.

OKay, well, like I said elsewhere, I don't mean to get on your case, I just want to avoid any confusion for the other users. Thanks.

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