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Old 20-September-2004, 03:51 AM
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Let's say, for our sake, the universe was in the shape of a fractal. Like that whole Carpet Universe thing - which is 'expanded' to some power of ten (I think into the twenties). Let's say our universe was d=dx+t (at least, I think that's what it is :unsure: ): Now, anything within the fractal is finite, whereas anything on the borders, the boundary of that fractal is infinite. According to string theory, and Hawking's "bubble" universe, where would our universe be on this fractal? Within... or on the surface? Within the fractal-shaped geometry, spacetime is finite, on the borders it can approach infinity.
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Old 20-September-2004, 02:37 PM
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Let's say, for our sake, the universe was in the shape of a fractal.
What does being in the shape of a fractal really mean? Would it be better to address the length of the edge of something that has a fractally constituted edge? There may be merit in pondering the likelihood of a quasi-fractal quantization of path lengths allowable in space for the transfer of mass/energy. This line of reasoning may lead to pondering whether there is a smallest (finite as opposed to infinitesimal) length to path quantization. This is a handy way to disallow zero separation between manifestations of mass or charge however small.
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Whether there is a limit to the magnitude of a modulation of chaos below which order remains invariant? Or, is order but a fiction invented by perspectives applied over finite, however large, time intervals?
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Old 20-September-2004, 03:35 PM
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The shape of a fractal is what you set it up to be. There might be some geometry, that when set up in a chaos program, will eventually create a representation of a reality that is that is the same as that initial shape. The universe is in the shape of something, if not of itself. If it(the universe) is the fractal...........
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Old 20-September-2004, 07:30 PM
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Well, Hawking says our universe is on the 'surface' of a 'bubble.' If the bubble is in the shape of a fractal, would it make more sense if our universe were on the infinite edge or inside in the finite, voluminous area.
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Old 21-September-2004, 11:33 PM
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Guys, I seriously want to know if any serious scientists has ever consider a fractal-shaped universe (not the fractal universe, I do not yet find the logic in that). Because, a fractal shaped universe would explain the nature of branes and exponential forces and phenomena.
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