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Old 30-November-2004, 03:24 AM
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Below is the shortest full page of text I could find. Basically, megforce redefined the concept of "fundamental particles" and created a new system of "rudimentary" particle systems, explaining the concept of spin.

Again, you'll have to read the site on your own, the intro page can be found here, at: megforce.com
And, the most detailed page is:
http://www.2xtreme.net/~boris/geatronmodel.htm


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Predictions Derived From the Geatron Nuclear Model



1. The concept of Particle Instability exists in both the particle formation and the particle decay directions. Any composite particle that achieves stability does not seek to grow larger, nor to decay further. Therefore, this concept of particle instability must exist in both directions. Previously, only particles that were in the process of decay were classified as unstable, now, those in the midst of formation into larger particles must be included.

2. The Electric Charge of +e and –e is fundamental, while all of the known particles that carry electric charge (charge carriers), such as the +e positron and –e electron are not fundamental, they are composite particles. This means that the charge originates with smaller particles, Geatrons.

3. All known particles have an underlying sub-structure composed of smaller rudimentary particle units, which are, in turn, composed of fundamental particles.

4. Every particle that is known to exist must have mass derived from the Geatron particle of energy and therefore, it should be measured in Geatron Mass Units (GMU), 1-GMU = 1.8926578 x10-2 MeV/c2.

5. A single fundamental unit of energy, the Geatron, having four states of existence is the only constituent of energy and matter. Various arrangements of three of the four states of energy assemble into rudimentary particle units, which assemble further into the known stable and unstable particles of matter.

6. The model predicts the existence of five (5) fundamental forces, listed in order of their emergence: Electric, Magnetic, Meg-force, C-force, and Gre-force, while all other known forces are not fundamental. The last three forces have not been previously identified by any other work, and are derived directly from the Geatron Model as completely new forces.

7. All five fundamental forces are derived from the interactions of the four fundamental particle energy states. These interactions permit the identification of the exact point of origin of each force.

8. A particle of energy having a positive fundamental electric charge of 1.602x10–19 © must exist as (State “A”).

9. A second particle of energy having a negative fundamental electric charge of 1.602x10–19 © must exist as (State “B”).

10. A third particle of energy having an alternating electric charge equal to the fundamental charge and alternating between (+, 0, –, 0) etc. relative to its variable frequency (¦) of vibration must exist as (State “C”).

11. A fourth particle of energy must exist having no property other than mass and velocity at ± © and the ability to convert from State “D” into A, B, or C or revert from A, B, or C into (State “D”). The “D” is the SOURCE of all Energy and Matter.

12. Equilibrium must exist between the primary forces at each independent atomic level, (i.e. fundamental, rudimentary, elementary, sub-nuclear, subatomic, transitional, and atomic).

13. All forms of energy are directly associated with and the direct result of interactions between the four fundamental particle states of A, B, C, or D particles of energy.

14. Particles cannot be created or formed from a zero mass, nor from an insufficient mass, therefore, all particle production is directly dependent upon the preexistence of sufficient quantities of mass.

15. Certain classifications of energy, primarily Kinetic, may not convert into mass, but are conserved when serving to break or sever several varieties of nuclear or rudimentary bonds of particles incident to the collision and additionally conserved through the kinetic energy of the product particles. Typically, in such circumstances, kinetic energy is converted into frequency.

16. Mass can be converted into particles of energy through a process of Fundamental Particle Fragmentation (FPF). This occurs when the kinetic energy of colliding particles is converted into a higher frequency (hf) for internal C-particles which will sever electrostatic bonds between A & B particles, resulting in the discharge of energy as A, B, and C particles and larger rudimentary units. This indicates that all particles discharged from any nuclear interaction are preexisting rather than created.

17. The Model predicts the existence of charged neutrinos and charged antineutrinos in addition to the neutral. It also predicts that the (e) neutrino / (e) antineutrino mass must be no less than .340678 MeV/c2 relative to the electron’s .511 MeV/c2.

18. The proton’s Fundamental Charge is able to move within it relative to other charges of its immediate environment.

19. Between the masses of (0 and .511 MeV), a series of no less than 700 rudimentary composite units exist, identified as R1 to R700, both charged and neutral. Many of the larger charged rudimentary particles may have been detected, but not correctly identified. All subsequent particles of matter are composed of various combinations of these rudimentary units.

20. The model predicts that at the core of every star, a continuous nuclear fragmentation process is the primary method of stellar energy production, where every particle with sub-structure entering the core is promptly fragmented into its constituent rudimentary and fundamental Geatron units. The process is called Fundamental Particle Fragmentation (FPF) and it places fusion as a secondary energy-producing event relative to FPF.

21. The Rudimentary Particles described in the Geatron Model are what is currently referred to as Dark Matter and will account for the proposed missing mass of the universe, while A,B, C, and D particles are what is referred to as Dark Energy.

22. The Z number alone does not fully account for elemental properties, as two factors are required. One factor is the Z number, the number of protons in the nucleus, the second and equally important factor is the requirement of a specific nucleonic mass for each proton or neutron in the nucleus that is exclusive to each element. Therefore, protons of most isotopes are not immediately interchangeable between elements unless there is an adjustment to the proton’s geatron mass (GMU).

23. The model predicts that all unstable elements having an AMU of 200 or higher will have enlarged nucleons by as much as 4.5% (equivalent to a lower density of 4.5%), where these enlarged protons and neutrons will have shapes other than spherical with some elongated, even though their GMU may be significantly less than those elements at the middle of the Periodic Table.

24. Geatron Plasma, consisting of individual fundamental Geatrons and smaller Rudimentary units, resides in the interior of black holes and at the center of all stars.

25. The Geatron Nuclear Model specifically predicts that a black hole will continuously emit large quantities of D-particles throughout its life. Stars also continuously emit D-particles, although the level of emission is small as compared to black holes, because the conversion of A, B, and C particles into D-particles is relative to the net external forces applied to the particles, demonstrating that this is ultimately a function of the mass of the system. In other words, a larger black hole will convert and emit larger quantities of D-particles than smaller systems. Ironically, small isolated black holes could dissipate a substantial quantity of mass through the emission of D-particles, but a similar emission will have little effect upon a large feeding black hole. Because matter is invisible to D-particles and all forces, including gravity, have no influence upon them, all D's are immediately ejected upon their reversion.

26. The model predicts that a beam of light will deviate from its original trajectory when it passes near the surface of a large body with mass, however, this deviation may be caused by the electric field, the magnetic field, the gravitational field or by a combination of the fields that surround the body.
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Old 30-November-2004, 04:12 AM
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We discussed this several months ago.
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17. The Model predicts the existence of charged neutrinos and charged antineutrinos in addition to the neutral. It also predicts that the (e) neutrino / (e) antineutrino mass must be no less than .340678 MeV/c2 relative to the electron’s .511 MeV/c2.
This was problematic, with the results from SN1987A.

Why bring this back? Is it a favorite of yours? Are you friends with the idea-man?
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Old 30-November-2004, 04:21 AM
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No, but the theory in itself (along with personal derivations) satisfied me, and I understand your concern with #17, but I'm anxious to hear what other people think about this theory.

Nothing against you, Anton...you had your say, we respect the opinion you presented to us, now I wanna hear other people's comments.

So, other people, if you're out there...

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Two problems came up during first reading:
1) Conflict with observations-- e-neutrino mass too high.
2) Lack of economy. He chides the SM for its plethora of particles, then creates 700+ new ones himself, defining many of their fundamental properties as unobservable. Where's the utility? "I predict you won't find this" is easily confirmed. What I didn't see was any useful predictions about observables.

This is a Dark Preon model, whose lack of economy is exacerbated by three new 'fundamental' forces. Even if it were in some sense true, it isn't useful. There are other preon models, founded on fact, in process of development. One of them may pan out, but I wouldn't bet on the dark horse. Duane has some info on these. Don't give up the ship, tho-- old guys like me tend to get more and more opinionated with time; we also tend to discover less. Regards--Steve
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