At the beginning there was only space. Space itself was unstable and became filled with chaotic quivers. The chaotic quivers established points of origin for acceleration, resulting in bits of space moving in different directions. These developed some synchrony, and became packets of space moving in space which I would call gravitons. Gravitons are tiny packets of gravity, or quanta of gravity.

These bits of moving space would fill the whole of space. If they moved past a mass in space it would give the appearance that the mass was moving in space.

We have already indicated chaotic quivers will place a point of origin for acceleration. Therefore we will have now envisioned space as having points of origin and coordinates for direction. In reference to the original points of origin of acceleration the objects appear to move in space.

Groups of gravitons in space have no power in themselves. Their power will be measured by the mass of the object moved times its velocity.

The velocity of gravity is c squared or 9 x 10 to the 16th m per second. Einstein places the ultimate force of a mass as mc squared. The only place this can be found is from gravity. A velocity equaling c squared will be necessary to compress a black hole from the outside sufficiently to make its internal matter degenerate.

There are three factors that make the assessment of the strength of gravity confusing. The first is their great penetration through matter, the extent of which is revealed by the fact that, for example, only 10 among 9 x 10 to the 16th of gravitons are stopped when going through the earth. As a result there is little change in the force of gravity throughout the depth of the earth.

A second factor is that gravity is due to a balance of the force of gravitons at any location. Earth has 10 m per second of force of gravity at its surface, going down. This really means that gravitons coming through earth from the other side have been reduced by 10 m/sec. and has resulted in a surplus of gravitons going down.

The third factor, at minute regions, as at an atomic nucleus, is that the penetration of gravitons is almost complete. A force locally demonstrated would be so small as to be almost unmeasurable.

There are two places where the great power of gravity is revealed. The first is in the context of the whole universe. In broad regions of space, as for example between galaxies where the addition of forces is prominent, great power would be revealed. Gravity is a force which should be considered in the context of the whole universe; it is broad and it is large. It forms galaxies and controls their relationships. It forms stars and planets and assembles them inside galaxies. It is the source of all power as we know it.

The second is at a black hole where the full force of gravity is applied to compress mass and make matter degenerate. A black hole is a situation where all of the gravitons are stopped by the substance of the hole and there are no gravitons going outward to balance the full force of gravitons coming in, which would make matter degenerate.

The conservation of gravity, or gravitons, can be considered. Examples of recycling its power, gains and losses, must be available. Photons are gravitons carrying a charge. When a photon is formed a graviton contributes and is lost from the surrounding pool of gravitons. When a photon is adsorbed on a metal plate, a charge is deposited and the graviton component goes back to the pool of gravitons.

Black holes also recycle gravitons. When a black hole receives a photon the charge and velocity must be adsorbed. How can this charge and velocity be recycled into space? Consider a black hole 3000 meters in diameter. The content of the hole would be compressed and degenerate. Consider the content of the hole stops gravitons to 1 percent at each 100 mm depth. At 100 mm. gravitons would be reduced to 10 to the - 2, at 200 mm to 10 to the - 4 and at 300 mm to 10 to the - 6, etc. Consider the black hole spinning and producing a 1 meter diameter jet at each of it’s poles of spin. Gravitons crossing the jets would be greatly reduced and gravitons exiting the jets on the other side would be negligible. There would be a great force of gravity on the surface of the jets, binding them and holding them straight as they extended out into space. Further away from the black hole content inside the jets would be lost, there would be more of a balance of gravitons at the surface of the jets, which would free the content of the black hole to be recycled into space.

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Clement McCulloch

wow clement
that is a really cool bit of thinking
a very good explanation of what might be
it will take me a bit of time to adsorbe it all though

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Well done Clement! I wish that I had thgought of that! - Jim.

I put a similar, less detailed version of this idea forward (mostly in jest) some months ago:

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I believe it runs into trouble with collapsed objects, tho-- if you can figure out a way to make the computations work, all power to you! Maybe it will take some of the epicycles out of our current cosmology. Best regards Steve

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what would make space unstable?

elecromagnetic Cosmic plasma is 10 to the 39th power greater influence than gravity, the further away you get from the mass. therefore gravity is far from being as powerful as you might think. before gravity could have any effect on anything, first you must null the masses magnetic field. what mechanisim would do this?

Why don't they travel at c^2, as normal gravitons do?

Normally, I will consider photons as neutral, although you can make electron/positron pair from a gamma photon, netto charge is still 0.
If photons carry a charge, what do electrons and protons do?

mv (mass times velocity) is reffered as impuls or momentum in textbooks.
Units are kg*m/s.
Power is defined as W/t = F*s/t (where W=work,F=force,s=distance,t=time).
Units are watts.
Why do you want us to use different notation?

Do you want to say, that photon deposits charge in otherwise neutral electron, excites the electron leaving some energy and then accelerate to c^2 to be the graviton again?
It's very non-scientific to talk about such fundamental things like gravitons and then mix some "metal plate". What is it? Yet another fundamental particle?
What about non-metal plates?
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You lost me at the beginning where space was unstable. Of course, that could be the line where we would cross into philosophy, so I won't attempt to go beyond that. The interesting part was the destruction of Black Holes and the recycling into space. Fantastic theory that needs to be put to the test. Any Ideas on how to prove this?

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