(C) Copyright G.P.Smith. 6th.August,1996

NEED FOR SUCH A SYSTEM.

It is claimed that the usage of the known Laws of Physics is presently less than a maximum benefit. It is further claimed that the known multi-dimensional , physical and atmospheric conditions within the universe have not been fully utilized for the maximum benefit to mankind.

CLAIM FOR DISCOVERY OF A NEW MEANS OF SYSTEM MEASUREMENT :

DEFINITIONS.

System. Considered a system in any dimension according to all the Laws of Physics but particularly with regard to those laws pertaining to geographical and geometric conditions.

Balanced System. Can be observed as being accurate and consistent in it's operation. If the system is rotating about an axis, it can be shown to be perfectly symmetrical in it's orbit.

Nearly Balanced System. More clearly shown in a system rotating about an axis where although the System may be considered out of balance, it is still obviously maintaining reasonable equilibribrium about the axis.

IT IS CLAIMED THAT BY THE SYSTEMATIC OBSERVATION OF A BALANCED OR A NEARLY BALANCED SYSTEM, IT IS POSSIBLE AT THE INSTANT AFTER THAT OBSERVATION TO EITHER MORE ACCURATELY MEASURE THE SYSTEM OR TO IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM.

IN GENERAL THE LOGIC APPLIED IN THE NEW METHOD OF SYSTEM ANALYSIS IS SUCH THAT BY SYSTEMATICALLY ELIMINATING OR ACTING ON HIGH NEGATIVE ELEMENTS WITHIN A SYSTEM, IT CAN BE SHOWN THAT ACCURACY OR EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM MAY BE LOGICALLY IMPROVED AUTOMATICALLY.


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BASIC REQUIREMENTS FOR RECORDING SYSTEMS MEASUREMENT :

1. Consistent means of data collection over a regular period of time with inputs required to be taken at a minimal number of 5 points in time. The number of 5 was established because it is considered logical that 5 would be the minimum number or data points from which it would be possible to maintain the equilibrium of the system.

It was then considered equally logical that in observing a System for the purpose of evaluating it's efficiency, it would be reasonabe to link each data point to each other arithmetically. The amount of data utilized would the increase from 5 to 10. The arithmetic links of the data if that the initial data was numbered 1 to 5, would be as follows.

1 - 2
1 - 3
1 - 4
1 - 5
2 - 3
2 - 4
2 - 5
3 - 4
3 - 5
4 - 5

The initial minimum 5 points may be directly increased by assuring that additional data is also obtained in direct multiples of 5.

2. The data obtained may be taken in all three dimensions of space. i.e. Each plane is geometrically opposed to the other two by 90 degrees. (Which would be a fundamental minimal requirement for balance of a system.)

The minimum number of input points is -

One for one dimension.

Two (or three) for two dimension.

Five for three dimension.

The number of data collection points is infinite, providing the ratios of the data manipulation is maintained precisely through all levels of the balanced or nearly balanced system.


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3. The unique coupling of measurable ratios by means of providing infinitely programmable analysis of results on and about the theoretical centre line of the balanced or nearly balanced system, provides the possibility of 30 switchable outputs for each data input for each linear plane.

The minimum number of outputs is -

30 for one dimension.

Either 60 or 90 for two dimension.

150 for three dimension.

4. At the conclusion of data collection over either time or space, all of the relative data obtained can be utilized arithmetically inititially, or may be sorted in numerous ratios for the purpose of linear assessment of the performance of the system. At that point in time, it can be proven that the performance of the system may be enhanced by making an automatic decision to either improve the efficiency of the system, or the system measurement, in either a very large positive way or a minimal positive way.

5. A further development of the concept would allow an infinite number of linkings between systems.

i.e. The viewing of smaller systems within larger systems. It is logical to accept that be the adoption of such a means of system analysis, it is easily conceived that it is possible to view complex linkings between systems. The basic concept of efficiency improvement can be established at each and every one of the systems within a system.

An obvious example is the utilization of systems analysis to map the solar system. It is possible to link all available measurements geometrically. After consideration of obvious known facts, I believe that it will be established that the single most important solar system sighting will be that taken precisely at at 12 midnight on the 31st December, in the year 2000, from the position on the earth at at 30 degrees South : 135 degrees East, to the centre of the Solar System, The position on the earth is located near McDouall Peak in South Australia, approximately 250 kiolmetres North West of Woomera.


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Other examples of Systems Meaurement :

Space travel.

It is claimed that the adoption of onboard systems analysis within a space vehicle would allow more accurate data to be available than is at present. By monitoring data systematically obtained from a minimum number of 20 data points geometrically balanced and located on the extremities of a space vehicle, it will be possible to more accurately set a course in space. In circumstances where the vehicle was pushed off course by a random event, it could be shown that an automatic correction could be made, based on the re-establishment of the course outlined in the sets of data made available for the minimum period of 5 timing points before the random event. The actual data monitored would probably be infinitely variable, with the most relevant being available for assessment in critical circumstances.

It is further claimed that the method of systems analysis will be shown to be true anywhere within the Solar System.
i.e. The projection of a vehicle from within the atmosphere of earth to the vacuum of space can be monitored all along it's course, with the potential to improve it's course at any moment in time after the last 5 timing sequences. As the efficiency of the vehicle always has the potential for improvement, ultimately the design of vehicles should be improved and the fuel requirements should be reduced.

Space exploration.

It is claimed that all the present methods of data analysis of information from inside and outside the Solar System eould be enhanced if a more uniform method of systems measurement was adopted. More specifically, a typical approach would be to establish the parameters as accurately as possible initially, and the by progressive arithmetical exclusion of those data components which were established to be of least importance to the system being measured, it could be demonstrated that the measurement of the system would be enhanced.
i.e. More accurate information can always be obtained within the very next time frame.
The obvious limitations imposed when measuring from earth would often be associated with the fact that the Earth is moving in multi directions at the time of measurement. By adopting a multidimensional method of data analysis, it could be demonstrated to be more accurate than present systems.


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Meteorology.

It is claimed that Meteorology efficiency would be improved by adopting a more uniform method of systems analysis. In studying a system that is at present in a nearly balanced state, it obviously makes sense to locate the minimum 20 data collection points (or as many as intially possible) at the most obvious major geographic points available. The 5 sets of 4 data points should be located in the following latitudinal planes.

60 degrees North of the Equator.
30 degrees North of the Equator.
On the Equator.
30 degrees South of the Equator.
60 degrees South of the Equator.

Utilized similar logic as that applied in previously describing the adoption of a Solar measurement system, it would appear reasonable that the location of a major monitoring point would be ideally located at 30 degrees South: 135 degrees East.
ie. near Woomera in South Australia.

Combustion Engines.

It is claimed that the design and operational efficiency of many types of combustion engines would be improved if the method of systems analysis was applied. In monitoring the efficiency of the compression component, an accurate profile is instantly available. Once again, the possible logical steps available to improve the efficiency is limited in number only by the geometric and physical limitations firstly imposed in obtaining the data, and secondly with implementling a logical change to the system, without affecting the efficiency of the engine system. I have made available other documents demostrating the theory of how the basic system may be applied to a combustion engine.


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Telecommunications.






The document above is the first of 6 1/2 pages produced on 6/08/1996.

I would like to point out to viewers that I was never much good at physics at school, and to make allowances for those shortcomings.

Copyright G.P.Smith, 6th. August, 1996



Telecommunications.

It is claimed that efficiency in many areas could be improved by establishing firstly consistent timed signal transmissions, and secondly by the monitoring of the signals over a minimum time frame of 5 stages.

It is claimed that by the consistent variation of a component within a balanced transmission signal over consistent periods of time, it is possible to detect the uniform variation in that signal. Therefore it is logical that by the predetermined programming of the transmission signal as measured agaist time, it is possible to make a logical decision at the instant in time that the predetermined varaiation in signal has been detected.

i.e. Although I claim no expertise in this area, it would appear logical to me that a component that would be readily varied in transmission would involve frequency modulation. The fact that frequency is a ratio (against time)would make it an ideal component to be used in systematic measurement.

The adoption of such a system would allow the instant availability at the reception end of the system for multiple choices of transmission.

i.e. To select reception of the complete signal or for specific parts of the signal.



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In summing up the systems analysis in as simple form as I can, I vizualize hanging a multi-dimensional system on a structured, uniform framework and then logically examining the performance. At that stage a logical choice can be made automatically.

By presenting this document, I have attempted to clearly demonstrate that all the information contained within these seven pages is entirely of my own personal creation.

As the only way that this method of analysis could be practically applied depends entirely on the use of a computer, I claim that as the creator of the systems analysis program which I have in my possession, I automatically retain the sole right to it's application until such time that I may by legal arrangement allow other parties to use the computer program.

I automatically also claim the right to the reproduction of all information pertaining to the method of systems analysis as generally described in these documents and as may be described in greater detail in the future. Other than myself, no other person has the legal right to utilize in part or in full any of my creative works which I desribe as a multi-dimensional means of systems analysis, without my expressed permission in both word and writing.


Signed on the 6th day of August, 1996
G. P. Smith.
Geoffrey Pattison Smith.


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This is page two of this thread, which has the same name, isn't it?

Threads merged.

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Thanks very much for your help ToSeek.

It is very much appreciated!

I came here becasue you claimed in another thread that this on explained your ideas about Pi and so on.
I've tried to read your exposition, but I failed to understand what you were saying and what you base it on.
I stopped reading after the part I quoted above.
One remark: the centre of the Solar System is the Sun, or a point very close to it. Agreed? Now, if you take a picture at midnight towards the centre of the solar system, what do you get?

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Your feet?

I just went into a longwinded explanation as to what I may have been getting at! I then lost the lot while retrieving a link.

If people wish to dismiss the whole theory on the basis of this particular post then they are being shortsighted. It doesn't really concern me anyway, I know the theory is sound. The proof of the pudding will come when we produce the combustion engine. We are waiting on finance and hopefully will employ a Project Manager soon.
http://www.aussiecarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3154

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taurus26

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You go to the trouble of reposting 7 pages you have written in 1996, and when someone points out that they contain ridiculous statements, you think it is wrong to dismiss the whole theory (don't tell me there is more of this) on the basis of one post...
I agree that making a mistake in a post is very forgivable, I do it often enough. But when you post something you have written yourself ten years ago and which you formulated as some kind of patent, other standards must be applied. When most of it is incomprehensible and other parts are just plain wrong, this is more than reason enough to dismiss the theory, until the time you return with a revised version (if you are, after correcting the errors, still convinced that you are on to something).

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i am unsure how this is different than communications as it occurs today. making a "logical decision at the instant in time that the predetermined variation in signal has been detected" is known as a likelihood ratio test. this is the fundamental concept behind choosing information embedded in noise. the concepts are well documented in "Detection, Estimation and Modulation Theory" by Van Trees (1967 I think) and reference #1 in the foreward is Bayes seminal work back in the 18th century.

i do...

what are you measuring? FM, btw, is used for very little other than radio transmission these days.

most communications systems use some form of spread spectrum transmission, Quadrature Phase Shift Keying (QPSK, PCS cellphones use CDMA overlayed on QPSK modulation) or Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing (OFDM, 802.11a).

uh, instant as in "at the speed of light?" actually, communications propagate at the speed of light only in freespace. here on earth in the atmosphere, it is slower (not by much). through wires, slower yet (significantly). unless you've discovered a way to void relativity...

but i'm still confused about what you are measuring with frequency?

taks

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goodbye richard pryor :(...

Thanks taks for your informed analysis. I am pleased that the way I tried to explain the theory did make some resemblance of sense to you. Your area of expertize was the one I had little knowledge of and was least confident with!

I will try to explain as best I can the basis of my theory after this post has been replied to. Rather than completing the task all at once, I will do it by means of a series of edits.

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taurus26

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If you will do it with a series of posts (or even threads), no problem. But please don't do it with a number of edits, as that is impossible to follow and is (or was at the BABB) frowned upon. You can make corrections, adjustments, additions, in later posts.

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yeah, edits should be to correct misstatements and misspellings, etc. not purely for content update/addition unless the post is designed specifically for that (such as some of the lists and FAQs i've seen floating about).

taks

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goodbye richard pryor :(...

We accept that there are countless systems around us!
The best balanced of these literally would appear to spin like a top.
Even these forums could be considered a system as you have -
Ordered postings against time.
Regular lines of threads.
If postings were out of order, forums would become out of balance
I don't mean to make a theory out of the forums, I just wanted to point out that a system could be a number of different things.

Well the system I chose to monitor is one of the most consistent. And that was the Teletext Horse Racing System which broadcasts starting dividends down to punters from 15 minutes before race start, to starting time.

I considered it a reasonal assumption that the horses that were to do better had more money wagered at different times before the start. I believed that slight variations in betting could be picked up by computer analysis.

But what came across after months of analysis more than any single thing was the amazing consistency of the figures. This of course is directly related to the average small time punter being so consistent in his habits. Time after time, race after race, very regular results came to the fore. I considered it reasonable to start monitoring the performances 15 minutes before race time.
Due to practicle limitations the monitoring of figures ceased at 2 minutes before race time. I then chose 3 more monitoring times,at the 11 minute mark,the 8 minute mark and the 5 minute mark.

The number of horses monitored varied between 10 to 20 horses. I found that the larger the field made virtually no difference to the consistancy of the pattern. Having observed this consistancy, I considered a reasonable thing to do was to link the resultant figures arithmetically. And all of a sudden things changed, the middle core of consistant results remained much the same, but the computer progam started highlighting horses with very high negative values. Looking at the form of these horses, it could be seen they were horses with little chance and/or were not backed throughout the 13 minute monitoring period.

It didn't take much figuring out that I wouldn't be backing one of these horses in a million years as I found they never got up. So it appeared to be a perfectly reasonable conclusion to no longer consider them(it) in future calculations. The time frames taken for the first calculation was between the 15 minute and the 11 minute mark. But even though this horse had little chance, I found that when calculating the next set of figures that the overall figures had "tightenend up" and there was an even greater consistancy in the figures.

So I proceeded to analyse further the results between the 11 minute mark and the 8 minute mark. And lo and behold the same sort of result, with one very high negative value. It was not as high a figure, but was high nevertheless! And as with the first discard, this horse had not won once in many months of starts. So I chose to discard it also.

I should note my method of monitoring.
I did not analyse anthing until I had entered months of actual data including race results. I then continued taking in more data but this time I monitored how the computer would view the figures. I have to say that I had expected that I would have been utilizing complicated calculations but was most pleasantly surprised as to how easy it was to choose the first two discards.

Monitoring results between the 8 minute mark and the 5 minute mark again threw up one horse once again with the negative result not as high as previous two. This horse had won on one occasion but would have been way below the overall costs if backed. So it was discarded also.

Between the 5 minute mark and the 2 minute mark interesting things happen. Firstly it becomes less obvious as to which horse to discard. So I paid attention to the other selections. It became apparent which horses had been steadily backed over the entire 13 minutes. They appeared on the profile as having very small errors(positive or negative) The selection with the smallest error was then TEMPORARILY discarded and the program run again. Once again the horse with the highest degee of negative error was discarded.
The horse that had been temporarily discarded was then reinstated to the mix and the program run for the final time. The selections (3) were those that averaged the best performance over the 13 minute period, neither having too much bet on them or too little.

* High negative elements are those where there has been little money invested.

Although I had designed the program to make money from horse racing I then had the realization that if the consistent results could be obtained from one system then similar results were likely to be obtained from other systems!

* I believe it is perfectly logical to disregard these four elements from the calculations. It is quite clear that they were the cause of the system appearing to be partly out of balance when first viewed. After their removal and program rerun, the system was obviously back in a balanced mode.



There is more to this discussion if necessary!

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taurus26

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I understand that the best bettors will often wait to place their bets, to avoid tipping their choice to systems such as these.

Exactly correct,they do. The individual big bettor, investing thousands of dollars each, wait for the last minute to place their bet. In fact if I was investing it would also be wthin the last minute that I would place my bet.
At the two minute mark you have between 60 and 90 seconds to enter the last amount of data for each horse, and then allow the program to run to make your selection(s) It is not much time at all, I found it exhausting.
I was never betting in the thousands, but it was in the hundreds at times.

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taurus26

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What exactly are you measuring with this analysis of bets on a horse race?

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Firstly I am measuring the performance of the system.
Secondly I am improving the performance of the system.

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taurus26

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... what "system?" You've yet to make that clear.

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A system as defined on the first page of my submission regarding a new means of systems measurement.

I apologize for all the edits - it won't happen again!

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taurus26

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Er. No. You never defined what you mean by the word "system." You just repeated it.

A lot.

Would you care to explicitly define the word "system" in your usage? I'm wanting to be clear on your meaning, so I don't misinterpret the model you're devising.

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I apologize Kesh,

The definition as defined in my school dictionary is adequate.

"a set of connected parts" eg a railway system.

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taurus26

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i think they'd kinda like to know what the system is, too... which is, to put it lightly, unclear.

taks

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goodbye richard pryor :(...

Okay. So what kind of system are you analyzing with the horse betting? There's a large number of factors involved.

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How would you describe a computer system?

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taurus26

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Computer.

the von neumann architecture comes to mind as the model for nearly all processing systems today...

taks

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goodbye richard pryor :(...

I agree we need a whole new system to unify the existing systems.
I.e.. Mks.. Cgs.. etc.. etc...

and to do so, we must find values and units which are common to all, or atleast convertable to all.. and can be universally converted into others.

Obviously.. The Pion comes to mind as the fundamental unit of mass, charge, and energy, since all, or most, energy interactions involve electrons.

doing this and then basing our system on dimensional units and systems would, it seems in my mind, the best route to follow.

As i do.. Albeit, slowly.

-MT

You are far wiser than I Mosheh Thezion,

I look forward to reading your writings!

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taurus26

Dedicated to Graham Kennedy.

To quote one of my racquetball partners, "Careful!"

You are in for the close equivalent of a Rorschach test. Hopefully, you have an inkling of what I'm getting at. Remember, some things cannot be blotted out.

Good luck!

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Yes I do: is my intention to speak with good sense!

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taurus26

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Refer to #13 for description of betting analysis.

I am perfectly happy to field questions on the same!

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taurus26

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