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Old 17-March-2006, 06:56 PM
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I'm not at all convinced that there should be any difference in the motion of the interference pattern even if the moving mirror is traveling at a sizeable fraction of c (although it would be moving really, really fast).
I was fasthurried, I made a little mistake with 2 cycles. Actually, there may be no cycle at all, and in case if any shift, in any case if relativists want the speed relatively the moving mirror be C and in concomittance with another perpendicular beam, the shift should be bigger or lesser then |-v| (or simply half of the wave in viewed case). So, the picture in case of relativity should change more or less than 1 cycle.

If you think, that there should be no change in the picture with relative C off the moving mirrors out and say V can be any, then you want to say that light in order to catch the moving mirror out should spend time |v|/c and off |c|/c, - together it is |c|/c, if v=0. You break the wave, as if there's no time |v|/c! And since you think the picture should not change, and it does, it is a well proven fact, then you indirectly help me show contradiction.

As I understood you agreed with me and it is a good sign.

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Old 19-March-2006, 06:13 PM
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Psychoanalytical relative experiment
http://www.relativity.hotmail.ru/Ver...ntial(eng).htm
According to animation about vertical mirrors 1 metre up high, light beam has 1 billion of touches opposite mirror, meaning it has his own relative speed up the mirrors, say, 1 metre per 4 seconds.
Zigmund Freud sets in a person into parallel mirrors cart and puts up a question:
- Dear patient? Is it possibble for you to move as fast as possible to to and from the mirrors so that you reach such a condition, that you will see the light above you with the speed C - 300 000 km per second, providing that now in the stationary state you see the light moves up only 1 metre per 4 seconds?
- Yes, - says the patient.
- Then it is a nice evidence of your depersonalization disorder. The light up has its own speed relatively the floor (1 metre per 4 seconds). How can you turn small velocity into colossally great one, not even turning the beam up? You cannot influense upon phisical events by only moving fast.

Then Zigmund Freud closed the patient inside the well-known room and again asked the patient? Is it possible now in the closed surrounding to move so fast as to make larger the speed of light moving between the vertical parallel mirrors up 1 metre per 4 seconds?

- Yes, - says the patient.

- Ok, you are free! My postulates, offered to Einstein were a great challenge to the world community! And undulations of the light pulse between the parallel mirrors did the most of a hypnotic job!

(Reference - Zigmund Freud was a grandfather of the theory of relativity, of phychoanalytical phisics and astronomy).

LONG LIVE PSYCHOANALYTICAL PHYSICS!!
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Old 20-March-2006, 12:04 AM
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I am always amazed by the fact that the greater the mind the greater the self doubt.

Anyhow, perhaps the stalwart Newtonain MRC can explain how Maxwells equations work in Newtonian absolute space and time given that they imply that light always moves at c in a vacuum whatever Galilean reference frame they are subject to.
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Old 22-March-2006, 05:43 PM
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light always moves at c in a vacuum whatever Galilean reference frame they are subject to.
In
http://www.relativity.hotmail.ru/Ver...ntial(eng).htm
there is a table explaining why zigzag moving beam moves slower than C between the vertical mirrors: length of the mirror is divided by delay time.
In animation
http://www.relativity.hotmail.ru/Par...ntial(eng).htm
light moves between parallel mirrors by side! The side movement also proves a picture appearing at a perpendicular line to the mirrors movement.

Equation sqr(1-v2/c2)?
It should be applied to speed, and the equation is sin alpha of the beam to the direction of observer's movement.
Actually, sqr((c2-v2)/c2) = sqr (relative speed 2/c2) = relspeed/C.

SQR was misapplied to time.
Interferential picture appearing on the mirror tells about the speed of the mirrors, about relative speed of light pulse. And the interferential picture is an embodiment of sqr(1-v2/c2).
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Old 22-March-2006, 05:50 PM
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light always moves at c in a vacuum whatever Galilean reference frame they are subject to.
It means just a value of C does not change. Somebody could think that the more speed you apply, the more you change the value of C. So, the value, measured in vacuum is a constant (etalon) to all frames.
Merely that and no more.
Maxwell was in doubt, that is why he subjected value C to other frames
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the greater the mind the greater the self doubt.
Anyway, he did not say that light pulse moves by sides with C:
see animation, I offered you a step above (Parallel_Interferential).
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previous discussion of imitation of Michelson and Morley experiment with the moving mirror with Gillette mirror and a laser pointer.
http://www.relativity.hotmail.ru/Las...rferential.htm

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