So, when is your paper being published by Galilean Electrodynamics? It's been nearly two years since it has been accepted, hasn't it?
Even Carel van der Togt managed to get a paper published there.

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But this is a definition based on BB straw.
'expansion' assumes 'expansion' a better definition is H in terms of shift in wavelengths since this is not open to interpretation - it is based on observation.
Cheers,
Lyndon

This year. Like a good wine it takes time to mature and also, like the Nobel prizes, one has to wait a little to ensure that a theory stands the test of time - like mine has.
The book should be out Aug/Sept though. I will let you all know so that you can rush out and buy a copy.
Cheers,
Lyndon

Well I think that we have shown that the BB cannot predict H and thus is a waste ot time.
Let us move off topic for a moment - well for the next nine days up till my going on holidays

Very well since z = exp(Hd/c) - 1 in this theory. H is the local value H = hr/m for the electron

get these for you tonight - in fact I may well cherry pick and find a source for n=1.

Don't understand these questions.

The bits with galaxies etc in it.

Now Nereid I am sure that you understand uncertainties. This is the range of uncertainty in the mean value of n.
Cheers,
Lyndon
9 days left.
Note on edit - I missed the '/c' off in the redshift equation. Sorry for any confusion (no one has posted a reply yet!)

Oh Almosrt forgot. I promsed to cherry pick a value of n=1 electron per cubic metre of space.
Electron density is about density of Hydrogen, ergo
Consider the intergalactic medium to contain only hydrogen
and note that in highly ionized gas the electron density ne and the proton density np
are roughly the density nH of the intergalactic medium.
there is one Hydrogen atom per cubic metre of space.

In contrast, the intergalactic medium has a density of only 10–6 particles per cubic centimetre

ergo, n = 1. since H = 2nhr/m
This gives H = 128 km/s per mpc.
Pretty close.
Now how does the BB do?
Cheers,
Lyndon

What does 'local' mean here?

In what sense is 'hr/m' 'local'?Let me clarify:

3) As many space probes have now clearly demonstrated, the IPM (interplanetary medium) has a wide range of electron densities. Over a century of astronomical observations, in wavebands as diverse as X-ray, optical, and radio, have shown that the ISM (interstellar medium) also has a wide range of electron densities.

While not quite as extensive as the IPM and ISM observations, there are many observations of the electron density of the IGM ("IG space"), and these point to a wide range of electron densities.

In the lyndonashmore idea, "'n' is the average electron density of IG space".

What does 'average' mean, in this statement?

More specifically, 'average' of what, over what?

For example, does one, in principle, add up all the electrons on a sight-line, and divide by the column (volume)?

4) Millions of galaxies have now had their light analysed with sufficient (wavelength) resolution to obtain a redshift. These galaxies are all over the sky (with some exceptions along the plane of the Milky Way, and in the MW bulge).

"H", to an observational astronomer, is the ratio of radial speed of the observed galaxy (where the observed redshift is interpreted as a recession velocity) to its distance*.

Thus, in the lyndonashmore idea, each galaxy's observed H is, in effect, a probe of "the average electron density of IG space".

What regions of "IG space" do the millions of galaxy redshifts probe?Where do 'galaxies' end?

Are a galaxy's globular clusters inside or outside "IG space"?

What part of the Tadpole Galaxy's tail is outside "IG space"?

Which parts of the Virgo clusters' intra-cluster medium are outside "IG space"?Is "mean value" the same as "average"?

What sort of mean is it - arithmetic? geometric? something else?

What is the standard deviation (sigma) of the estimated values?

How do the sigmas vary, between researchers?

What is the estimated variation in the actual electron density (cf variation of the measurements)?

Which parts of "IG space" have had their "average electron densities" measured?

What techniques were used to make these measurements?

*This statement is not quite accurate (various caveats need to be entered re 'peculiar velocities', etc), but, with care, one can work with the data this way. There are, of course, well-known difficulties with determining distances; but again, with care, one can work various methods to get at least consistent estimates.

8 days left to hols

This is local H here is 64 km/s per Mpc ie hr/m for the elctron in each cubic metre of space - taken from Ned Wright's cosmology tutorial.





Line of site average. That is why galaxies have to be in the Hubble drift - more than a certain distance away so that photons undergo a large enough sample of interactions for the stats to work (gets confused by 'local' gravitational effects)

if the galaxies are far enough away, any effects due to fluctuations in electron density cancel as, over large distances the Universe is similar - everywhere. Remember you don't get the Hubble diagram fo nearby galaxies.

These effects lead to intrinsic redshifts which add on to the cosmological redshift due to photons interacting with electrons in IG space.

They are mostly around n = 1 power of ten either side - hence my range of values.

Filibustering here.

exactly, and it gives H = 2nhr/m as I predicted.
Cheers,
Lyndon

I'm sure the universe will wait while you have your hol, lyndonashmmore.For avoidance of doubt, "hr/m for the electron in each cubic metre of space" may vary throughout the universe?For avoidance of doubt:

-> what is 'z', 'd', and 'c'? (my guess is redshift, distance, and the speed of light, respectively, but I'd like to make sure there is no confusion).

-> what 'theory' is 'this theory'?What kind of 'average'?

For example, do regions along a line of sight contribute n_region multiplied by volume_region to "hr/m for the elctron in each cubic metre of space", or do regions with higher densities of electrons contribute more (or less) than their volumes?I feel this is an important qualification, and will explore it in more detail later.How far is "far enough away"?

More precisely, can you please describe how "any effects due to fluctuations in electron density cancel"?

For example, to what extent can you describe how "fluctuations in electron density cancel" as distance from us increases? (I presume the relevant factor is distance from us - if not, please state what it is).In your idea, at what distance do you "get the Hubble diagram"?What "effects" are you referring to?

(my questions simply ask "where do 'galaxies' end?")

What do you mean by "intrinsic redshifts"?This does not seem to answer any of my direct, pertinent questions about your idea.

Could you please clarify?

(if any of my questions are unclear, please say so, and I will try to make them clearer).This does not seem to answer any of my direct, pertinent question about your idea.

Could you please clarify?What is "it"?

The author of the lyndonashmore idea concerning H will be available to present the idea, defend it against challenges, and address questions asked about it, from early August.

At that time, I will start a new thread, which will have the express purpose of allowing lyndonashmore to present his idea, BAUT members the chance to question and challenge it, and lyndonashmore to defend it.

As at least some aspects of this H idea were discussed in a long BABB thread, the new thread will be moderated somewhat differently* than most others, here in the ATM section. Details to be specified in the OP of the new thread.

In the meantime, this thread will be closed, and all other discussion of the lyndonashmore H idea, in other ATM threads, put on hold.

*Here is an example of another long thread, from the past, which was moderated somewhat differently.