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Old 14-April-2003, 07:04 AM
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this is the newest "pic" of planet x. this is the first clear pic with a star background that ive seen them put out. i just wonder what you guys and gals think? what is it? is it faked or just a pic of something else. ive never known nancy to post fake things that are really easy to prove wrong in the past so im just wondering if shes getting desperate, or what her deal is. anyway heres the link: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/nancy28.htm
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Old 14-April-2003, 07:29 AM
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The photo was taken by Chris...could this be the Chris Schreiber (however you spell it) who spammed this BB some weeks ago? I wouldn't put faking beyond him.

Added: I don't know how a "partially occulted" star in a reddish cloud is supposed to mean anything special...if the reddish cloud is supposed to be PX, wouldn't the star be completely concealed? It looks more like the "photographer" stole a picture of a reddish cloud off some astronomy website, I mean, his quote implies that he took it while flying in an airplane.
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Old 14-April-2003, 08:20 AM
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Another complete fake:

- Stars in no recognizeable configuration (no constellations)
- Stars uniform size, density, and color
- Several blue stars uniformly distributed throughout photo, also uniform size, density, and color.

Look at the Hubble pictures for comparison:

- Stars in recognizeable stellar configurations (Large Magellenic Cloud)
- Stars are not uniform in size, density, or color
- Not a single Windows Painbrush blue star to be seen

If this is what passes for "evidence" of Planet X, I see no reason to ever consider anything else posted by this particular photographer.

edit to add: have you ever tried to see stars outside a commercial airliner's minscule windows? How about trying to take a picture out that teensy window? Now take that picture without any kind of motion blur from a moving plane...the prosecution rests.
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Old 14-April-2003, 02:10 PM
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Here's my two cents - ever taken a picture from a commercial airliner? There's that double enforced plastic window to deal with - even if you use no flash (duh), you still usually get some reflection.

Tell you all what. I'm going to Hawaii in 21 days. ( :P ) On the return trip I will be leaving Hawaii at around 8pm, so I will be flying well into the night over the pacific. I'll take my own picture with my camera and we'll see how well it comes out, and I'll be lookin' for Planet Ex.

p.s. - has anyone noticed that NONE of the photo's Nancy has up look alike at all? shouldn't they at least resemble each other a little bit? Sheesh.

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Old 14-April-2003, 03:08 PM
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She has only three sources of photos.... her own 'imaging team' who have been conspicuously absent the past few weeks... a couple of photos passed along by someone in France who was involved in a PX hoax over a year ago.... and Chris in Hawaii......taking pictures from a plane at 39,000 ft on his way to Canada (to compare notes with Steve Havas and J. William Dell no doubt).......none of them look like each other, and all of them appear to be fakes of some sort.....

There is Yo's picture, but since he explicitly pointed out that there was NO evidence of PX in his photos, I dont think that is much support for Nancy's position...
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Old 14-April-2003, 03:49 PM
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I just blew the photo up in photoshop, and guess what...all the stars are square. Don't know about you, but all the photos of real stars show a round dot when blown up, these stars are perfect squares. I'm guessing the person used a very bad paint program to fake the picture. At least he could have used photoshop, you can get a round brush for stars there. These guys aren't even trying anymore. and I agree, If they could even get stars to show up on a picture out of a plane window, then they would definately be blurred from the motion of the plane.
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Old 14-April-2003, 04:22 PM
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Heya guys. I'm back after a short trip to Sherwood Forest (Robin Hood Country!) and we had some superbly clear nights out there. Sat out till around 10pm when it became bitterly cold, but the skies were so clear. Nothing to report, especially nothing that resembles that red haze...
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Old 14-April-2003, 08:38 PM
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Just look at the bright "Stars". Not only are they uniform size (as mentioned above), they just look to be painted on. They are not the same graniness and darkness of the rest of the lights. You see some better looking stars in the background and they have the graniness and a fuzzy like picture as everything else. The brighter stars are just too...perfect.
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Old 15-April-2003, 12:33 AM
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OK, I've got a theory for how this guy faked the photo...assuming he really was flying in an airplane, he took a photo out the window with his digital camera. The reddish cloud is his reflection in the window. He took it home and used Windows Paintbrush to add some stars. As for the "partially occulted" star in the cloud, it's pixel noise.

This explanation probably isn't quite right, but whatever the photo is, it's not Planet X!

(Edited because I can't grammar! :-? )
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Old 15-April-2003, 01:01 AM
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Well, if it is the same Chris who spammed here earlier as Tezzer, with his own photo of Planet Ex, then he is now in 4 places : England, Pittsburgh, Hawaii and Canada!

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Old 15-April-2003, 01:33 AM
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Pittsburgh, ey? Well, I live right near Pittsburgh. Today was an absolutely gorgeous day again, and for the heck of it, I scanned the skies twice...nothing., of course.
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Old 15-April-2003, 02:18 AM
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Ey? Isn't that Canadian?
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Old 15-April-2003, 03:21 AM
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Yeah. But I like saying "ey", too. It's fun. Try it, ey?
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Old 15-April-2003, 03:50 AM
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I don't even think it's a photo from a plane. I've tried that before, and you get ambient cabin light -- IF you can get a long enough exposure. And now we've got a hoaxer hoaxing Nancy.

I suppose it's poetic justice, though. Wonder what sort of jollies he gets from it.
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Old 15-April-2003, 04:08 AM
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Well, if it is the same Chris who spammed here earlier as Tezzer, with his own photo of Planet Ex, then he is now in 4 places : England, Pittsburgh, Hawaii and Canada!

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Huh? Did we have a NancyClone trying to defenestrate our defenses? Really?...d*mn...they're dumber than they look...and that's bad...
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Here's another image, also from Chris. Interesting how this one bears no resemblance to the other one. Looks like a fingerprint on the lens to me, actually.
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Old 16-April-2003, 09:33 PM
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Oh, boy, a smudge. If I wanted to fake a photo of Planet X, I'm sure I could do a way better job than that... excuse me, I'm going to go mess around with photoshop now.

(Canadians say it 'eh', not 'ey', thank you. :P And has anybody else noticed that when it isn't animated, the 'roll' smiley is cross-eyed?)
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Old 16-April-2003, 09:36 PM
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Oh, boy, a smudge.
Yes, but it's a Giant Killer Space Smudge!

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Yes, but it's a Giant Killer Space Smudge!
'Giant Killer Space Smudge'... isn't that a movie?
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Yes, but it's a Giant Killer Space Smudge!
'Giant Killer Space Smudge'... isn't that a movie?
Yeah, I think they did it on Mystery Science Theater a couple years ago.
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Old 19-April-2003, 11:39 PM
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Checkmate I agree with you.

Hmmmmm..... Can you say someone's red shirt sleeve?
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Old 20-April-2003, 02:29 AM
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I'm not sure what we are supposed to be seeing here. It looks somewhat like an aurora. This can't possibly be the best evidence they have? :-?
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Old 20-April-2003, 11:54 PM
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I find it interesting that between all the "Planet X" pictures taken by now, PX continuously seems to morph from brown splodges to red dots to hazy nebula-like things to ellipsoid shapes and beyond. Clearly we're dealing with an object unlike anything mankind has ever encountered before... :P
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