Comeback when you've more to tell us than astrology and bull****.


Doug

Michael:
I would like to focus on future HD dates and anticipations on timecoded patterns. I think it should be limited to that initially

If that doesn't say it all.

"You can make up your mind how future events will develop . . ." Someone is going to decide future events based on their interpretation of movements of bodies thru space? I know that is what you've been advocating all along. It's just that you keep saying it in new ways that make it sound even more wacko all the time.

And yes, you have proven several things for certain; that asking you for evidence is a waste of time, that asking you to be objective is a waste of time, that asking you to use terminology recognized by others is a waste of time, that your understanding of terms like research, anticipation, dimension, etc are radically different than most everybody else on this board.

I still can't decide whether you are seriously deluded, all-out psychotic, an incredibly patient prankster, just somebody looking for their 15 minutes of fame, a really really Bad Scientist, a wannabee visionary leader, or some combination of the above.

Your obfuscating jargon is also at times your own worst enemy. Reminds me of how Nancy L. dug a huge hole with outrageous claims. You have been careful to commit to very little though, and it is that cleverness that leads me to lean towards Wannabee Visionary Employing Really Bad Science.

I think this thread should end in a poll (it's obviously going nowhere but in circles, and will stay that way for as long as you keep posting). We should do a poll to see the category of woo-wooism to which the board's population feels you are most closely aligned.

BTW, even though it is tough to see such twisted ideation coming from a fellow human, this has been at times a source of good amusement too. Sometimes you gotta take the bad with the good.

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Right, we wouldn't want to try to actually make sense out of anything, . . . initially.

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I can't help much here, all I have is a set of events and the only one significantly different in this brane of existence I am aware of happened 36 years ago at the crossing of Fortune Street and Glyde Street in Narrogin Western Australia.

I doubt if any time resident signature is left even though at the time it should have been about a mile across. Also I see structure and mostly find people insignificant. I doubt that I can be of any help. But if it is any help this year 2007 is a pivotal year.

Cheers

Respects to farmerjumperdon I know I am not on the same plane as others. But it is because of this event that I have restricted what I say to just a very few ideas the tip of the iceburg if you like.

Someone is going to decide future events based on their interpretation of movements of bodies thru space? I never said that, its way off. I don't think we are consciously aware of the fact that we co-create this reality somehow. Nobody can 'decide' future events, its the result of our state of collective consciousness ( at macro level). It is possible though, that if this concept is indeed valid, that people with knowledge of the system could try to manipulate, but we still have a shared responsibility how our reality will look like

yep

use your fantasy, its not on the list yet

I always said i don't make exact predictions, I think Nancy L did although I haven't read her stuff

Its not fair to do a poll. I know most people will dismiss it. easy exit isn't it?
You should take the time to see how the anticipations will work out

yes

A poll as to how many people think there is anything to HDD is a forgone conclusion.

What would be interesting is a poll to see how many people think that continued discussion of HDD should take place here.

Doug

That's also not fair. you can just let it rest if you don't like it
I will focus on the material

Why is it not fair? It's perfectly fair. It couldn't be more fair.

You have presented your 'material' (which is actually, no material at all ) and your theory has been rejected by the overwhelming majority here. You made your case, it has been answered as not valid, the case is now closed. You can't keep bashing on posting the same nonsense month after month after month. It makes you - and BAUT, look ridiculous.

What you talk about is an against the maintstream subject that lies outside the scope of astronomy, and in a thread that has gone on for far too long in this place. It breaches BAUT rules to be honest. You are lucky that it has not be closed already.

There is a place for discussion of this stuff - you have mentioned it several times. Go there. Discuss it at length. Not here.

Based on these comments and the direction the thread has taken in the last few days, I'd like to see it moved into the ATM section. Maybe lock this one and start up a new one there. Either way, it's pretty clear that this has gone in circles for far too long. If this is going to turn into just another depository for anticipations that can be found on the other forums across the net, then there is no need to leave it open.

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A Geek will think he can use that to pick up a girl in a bar.
A Dork knows he can't pick up the girl with it, but will hang around for hours anyway, just in case she asks.
She might. You never know.

you know it take time to monitor the Syria situation for instance. There are also other timecoded patterns outlined here. Why don't you just take the time to see how it will work out or let it rest. You just don't like the thought that there could be truth in these kind on concepts. There's much more needed to dismiss it than the arguments that have been posted here.

that doesn't mean it isn't true. I expect everybody will reject it initially.

right, answered as not valid. so it is closed. because you think so.
I think our attention is needed in relation to the HD dates that are coming up.
I don't care less if I look ridiculous, that's what I can expect.

If you don't make me react on these kind of posts, I would limit my contributions to support the validity of the concept only.

its in babbling so it doesn't breaches BAUT rules. To put it in ATM would mean an easy exit aswell.

I have no problem with leaving here, the forum owner just has to ask it and I'm gone

Huh, what?

Uh, this HDD nonsense is still going on?

What a waste of electrons.

Well, anyway...

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This thread should be moved to ATM and thus closed in 30 days, during which Dutch can continue to ignore the simple questions asked of him and then never speak of it here again.

Doug

This has been discussed, and I have been fence-sitting on the verge of doing so for the last week or so If anyone has a convincing arguement yay or nay, please PM me. I would like the official input (not that I can't guess) of those involved in the discussion before pulling the trigger.

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moving to ATM is end of thread for me, its not possible in 30 days

If you would have taken the steps explained in the thread it would have been over by now anyway. The main point that was asked, repeatedly, was that you show a higher number of related events on the days of the predictions than the rest of the time. This would have shown that our opinions that you were only looking at the dates chosen and seeing what you wanted to see were flawed. You didn't do that.

A secondary point was that no one but you seems to be able to judge what is or is not a valid synchonicity. What everyone here sees as totally meaningless coincidence, you seem to see as some sort of absolute proof. If no one can see it but you, then your system is not a design, but an intuition.

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A Geek will think he can use that to pick up a girl in a bar.
A Dork knows he can't pick up the girl with it, but will hang around for hours anyway, just in case she asks.
She might. You never know.

Aw, that's terrible. The finis of open-ended ramblings. Aww...



Important note: none of the following is meant to be even close to an ad hominem. It's all ad rem.

I'm sure Dutch is a fine person who just has some unusual ideas. Therefore what follows is only a series of observations based on the material Dutch has posted here since, it seems, the beginning of time.

OK.

Excuse me for being blunt, Dutch, but, in the ATM section, you would be held accountable for your claims. If that's too much for you to handle, then that really puts your entire realm of speculations into the proper light, doesn't it?

Not that most of us didn't already discern that.

What a burden, not being able to explain in plain language, or better yet, with math and logic, the tenets of your hypothesis in thirty days or less...

Not the entire hypothesis, just the tenets.



Have you ever had to defend your thesis in front of a committee whose job is to shoot down any weakness in your dissertation? Based on what you've presented here, it seems unlikely.

If you were in fact going for a post-graduate degree with the material you've presented in this thread and the complete lack of supporting, verifiable objective evidence, the school, if properly accredited, would probably be tempted to pull your baccalaureate.

Out of curiosity, before this thread gets deservedly closed, what does your family (you have mentioned in numerous posts that you spend a lot of time with them, care for them, and look out for their welfare) think of your speculations? Just wondering if others share your "insights" or if (more likely) you're the only person who takes such stuff seriously.

Meanwhile, a bit of career advice. Since you've said you do most of this "work" while on the job, watch out. If you get a new manager who's interested in productivity, you might be out there in the job market before you know it.

One way or the other, I wish you luck. And I really hope you decide to learn something about the scientific method.


PS: Note to the moderators: I realize some of this might have seemed to be harsh, but, I've found this thread to be something of an embarrassment re its being on a science board.

I can see a newbie checking in, reading this thread, and thinking,

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as explained, I have a focus on the HD dates at macrolevel and keydates on already identified possibly timecoded patterns. Ofcourse I don't look for Deep Impact correlations everyday, but when the Chinese hit a satellite on a Deep Impact triggerdate it is different, at least to me.

A synchronicity is personal. i have stated repeatedly that such synchronicities will also pop up when you start to work or investigate these concepts seriously. I don't know how long it takes, it took a long time for me.

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