I thought geocentrism was moribund.

It seems to be undergoing a resurgence!
www.galileowaswrong.com

uh... this is a joke right??

right?????

GODS Man!! Say it's a JOKE!!!

Depends on what you mean by joke. I would bet these guys are serious that they believe it.

Tohu, given that this is the ATM section, were you just bringing that website to our attention because you thought it was humorous, or was there anything there you wanted to defend?

By the way, welcome to BAUT.

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That geocentrists exist is not too surprising as some Biblical literalists hold that view. Robert Sungenis is apparantly a Catholic Apologist who believes in geocentrism because of his (and early Church leaders') interpretation of scripture. A few years ago the board also had a persistant geocentrist who used sock-puppets to promote his views and get around bannings.

If you look back in the BAUT archives there are many geocentrist threads. Like creationists, 'true believers' in geocentrism are unlikely to change their views regardless of the evidence presented to them.

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Galileo was wrong t-shirts, cups, hats, click here seems to sum it all up.

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Hey Big Don,

Time to resurrect the picture you put on the 'Conspiracy' forum:-

"The internet - it doesn't make you stupid, it just makes your stupidity more accessible to others."

What gets me is are people really so stupid that they will shell out good cash for this crock - and if they are, how on Earth did they ever get (and keep for more than a few hours, at least) any money in the first place?

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This is my periodic post to point out that not all creationists are geocentrists

Linky

We now return you to your current programmes

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Let's not be hasty now! Bad Astronomy has a link where you can buy t-shirts, cups, hats and more. (Bad Astronomy has boxer shorts. Top that, galileowaswrong.com! )

The Internet may make one's stupidity more accessible, but only with a continuing infusion of cash.

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Microsoft is over if you want it.

The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

But Phil's stuff is only available to those of you in the US

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Here's a review:


Galileo Was Wrong, Vol. I Finally Released!

It is not crazy if you take the time to review the facts.

Mark Wyatt
www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com

What facts? Geocentrism? Trust me--it's still crazy.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Excuse me? I like this comment taken from the review page.

What's to say after that?

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"The beauty of that discussion of averages is that you don't have to be an expert in Apollo or in photography in order to see where this time study "analysis" breaks down. You just have to be, well...not an idiot." -JayUtah

Hi Gillian, you snuck one in on me as I was replying to Trth Skr.

Who I have a ten spot that sez he's a sockpuppet of some banned poster

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"The beauty of that discussion of averages is that you don't have to be an expert in Apollo or in photography in order to see where this time study "analysis" breaks down. You just have to be, well...not an idiot." -JayUtah

I find Wikipedia's article interesting on one of the authors...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sungenis

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Asimov's addition - "Or ignorance."

"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
-- Charles Babbage

Here's what I said (the next comment):

Mark Wyatt said... Read the book.

Mark

Mark Wyatt
www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com

No, geocentrism is not dead. It just smells funny.

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The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

Mark,

Here's what I say: No

Don

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This is the ATM section. If you have some "facts" that you want to defend, state them, and we can go from there.

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It seems that Relativity allows relativistic geocentrism, but not the absolutist Geocentrism espoused by galileowaswrong.com

Theoretically, what kind of observation would disprove Relativity, and what would we expect to see in the absolutist Geocentrist universe they revere?

Back in post #3 of this thread, Van Rijn welcomed you to BAUT, and asked if you were going to defend the ATM ideas presented in the website to which you provided a link.

I may have missed it, but you didn't answer that question.

Permit me to re-ask it: are you, Tohu, prepared to defend the ATM ideas you have presented, in this thread?

Before you answer, you may wish to read the BAUT rules, especially the one that specifically covers this ATM section:For avoidance of doubt, this is not a warning; you are new to BAUT and so are entitled to some slack.

However, we do expect that you will make your intentions clear, in the next day or two.