The proper spelling is Chicxulub.

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Thank You I find Chicxulub.
Into This crater is vary many track of huge K/T geocatastrophe. it's possible
this crater was created during huge geocatastrophe but it can not explain how did the reptiles and fishes die into all seas and all oceans!... how was created Caucasus and another same age mountain ranges very far from impact.
This crater was not center of huge K/T geocatastrophe.
This impact could not destroy huge tethys ocean!...

Thank you Serenitude , I think you are my future adherent, because I want to send to you my book as the gift, with my autograph. please send to me your postal address. here or e-mail.
today ........... hypothesis, tomorrow ............ TRUTH !!!
I wish you all the best!

Margiani.

"TRUTH CAN BORN DURING DISCUSSION" I think we are near one of the important discovery. All day I think a lot about this crater Chicxulub There are many
same sentences in the my book and in the free encyclopedia WIKIPEDIA
-Black thick clouds covered all Earth for years. .. (my book)
-During which the surface of the Earth was totally covered by a cloud of dust for several years (wikipedia)
-The geocatastrophe was ended by huge glacier (my book)
-The emission of dust and environmental changes close to a nuclear winter (wikipedia)
-Huge masses of ocean water washed over almost all the continents (my book)
-The impact caused giant tsunamis in all directions... (wikipedia)
- ....kilometers-high tsunami, giant sea waves,.... (wikipedia)
You know that. I had not any information about Chicxulub Crater when I wrote my book. Knowledge in Cosmogeology can help as to read tracks of huge geocatastrophes (geotrack). I don't have any doubt of many scientists investigations about Chicxulub Crater . Author of Cosmogeological theory can write that. Caribbean seas' floor proves that, impact was huge...
I have written to you...
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Into This crater is vary many track of huge K/T geocatastrophe. it's possible
this crater was created during huge geocatastrophe but it can not explain how did the reptiles and fishes die into all seas and all oceans!... how was created Caucasus and another same age mountain ranges very far from impact.
This crater was not center of huge K/T geocatastrophe.
This impact could not destroy huge tethys ocean!...
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Clue is into EB geotransfer... (rapid movement outer nucleus masses into asthenosphere). Inner balance of Earth inner geological forces between mantle and outer nucleus was destroyed by this giant impact. and was began EB geotransfer... HUGE GEOCATASTROPHE.....
now we can explain everything and it is important discovery...
I need your support.
Thanks,
Margiani

I don't know when you will read this message. During discussion to you and John Mendenhall I found right way. Now my modern theory is in the mainstream of main sciences. Please read #1 or Topic 16 of my site again, fully version. there are
very many news.
I'm very glad and happy.
Thanks,
Margiani

Margiani, hi ...
a couple of things you might want to consider here ...

- what you have described as "geoevolution" and "cosmogeology" have, since the 1970's been called "planetary geology" by those who study it.

- what you have described as "geotrack", the rest of the community knows as "the Geological Timescale" ... and what you describe as "geocatastrophe" is more widely known as an "Event" ... a "Boundary Event" (usually the boundary is named, eg the K/T Event) ... or a "Geochronological Event" ... and in the geological record, the evidential boundary is often called the "horizon" ...

- your assertion that mountain ranges etc could not possibly form by conventional plate tectonics runs completely counter to ~250 years of careful observation, study, experiment ... in short "science" ... and you will have to provide strong evidence to back up your claim.

- geological evolution is very much like someone's description of war ...
long periods of boredom, interspersed with bursts of furious activity ...
in other words, the evolution of the Earth and other planets can best be described as mostly gradualism, with odd peaks of catastrophism ...

now, where were we?

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sorry You do not understand me well.
For my modern theory I choose own name. because in the planetary geology are very many false data. my theory has war to the hubble's theory.
I don't want war with fathers of planetary geology, because I choose another names.
you are right geological evolution is very much like the war between Earth geoforces and alive world.
Geocatastrophe is more true name, because scientists were not able to understand what event happened million and million years ago. Geocatastrophe, geotransfer, geoevolution, etc are more true names of unknown events............
the evolution of the Earth and other planets can best be described as mostly as the gradualism, and sometimes different peakes of catastrophism ...
thanks,
Margiani

Sorry should be Chicxulub. It's a small town on the Yucatan peninsulsa, approximately at the center of the K-T impact structure. I have read, I think S&T, that Chicxulub translates roughly as "the Devil's Tail."

Appropriate, yes?

Name is true, because it is at the one of the main "hell" of the Earth. Please in your free time read fully version K/T event from my first letter. (#1).
There are very many news.
please send me your questions again.

Thanks
Margiani

Sorry should be Chicxulub.

I'm sorry too, better is if you will write about our discovery in one of the scientific magazine. This news is important for the future of mankind...
Thanks,
Margiani

OK ... ... let's look at some of this ...

by "the collapsed planet's huge chunk", I assume you are describing a meteorite ??? ... and suggesting that this meteorite was a remnant of a "collapsed planet" ??? ...

I'm guessing that you don't accept that the "Africa-south American (without Andes) continent (sic)" rift occurred much earlier than 65MaBP (million years before present time) ??

on whose "expertise"??? ... there are many who would argue that the K/T Event was not the most terrible ... merely the most spectacular ... with ~70% extinction of species, including all saurians ...

the P/T Event (~230MaBP) was more widespread with the breakup of Pangaea and ~90% extinction rate ... as was the O/S Event (~435MaBP) again ~90% extinction rate ...

in terms of totality, the E/C Event (~545MaBP) has to rate in the top 3 ... ~100% of macroscopic species extinction ...

are you referring here to the Mid-Atlantic Ridge? ... or it's associated transform faults?

the Andes had existed long before that ... they've been traced back to the breakup of Pangaea ... and are called the Samfrau Mountains during the Gondwana (II) existence ...

actually, it's the Australian and the Indian plates ... and part of the associated subduction zone is called the Java Trench ...

what you are describing here occurred much much earlier in the Earth's evolution ... this is from the Hadean epoch ...


newsflash ... it still is ... has been for ~4.5 billion years ... and will be for quite some time to come ...

actually, ~30% of macroscopic life survived ... only small mammals because at that time, there were only small mammals ... but other, larger creatures also managed to live on ...

simply not true ... a large number of sea reptiles (crocodilians and turtles), sharks and rays, and jawed fish, even the coelacanth which had been happily extinct for 70 million years, until some fisherman off the African coast netted one in 1938! ...


again, this is a description more befitting the Hadean epoch ... climate evidence from the geological record indicates that the K/T Event was followed by a brief period more closely resembling the "nuclear winter" scenario ... a global "chill out, dude!" ... which benefitted the mammals more than the reptiles ...

actually, the Black Sea is a remnant of the Tethyan Sea ... the rest of the statement is fair enough, but the geological evidence does not support the idea that all of this occurred ~65MaBP ... but that the process had been ongoing for more than 100Ma before that ...

it was? ... which huge glacier was that? ... if you are going to suggest a "global glacier", then you are describing the "snowball Earth" theory ... which refers to 2 or 3 events in the Archaean (~545Ma and earlier) ...


well, various workers will quibble over the numbers ... but OK ...
why have you left the others out of your list ... especially the "small one"???
or are these simply example dates?

your data seems to be lacking ... quite a number of strong glaciers happened during those glacial periods ... and many others ...

this sounds like a crude description of plate tectonics ...

this sounds like a more informed description of plate tectonics ... at least more detailed ...

well, the Jurassic spans from ~140MaBP to ~200MaBP ... and there are plenty of places around the world with no traces found ... yet ...

but dating of the Southern Atlantic Ocean floor on both sides of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge does extend back as far as ~140MaBP ... which is why the textbooks suggest that this is when South America and Africa first separated ... and that's why the Cretaceaous sedimentary layer exists ...
if the separation had occurred at the K/T boundary, that layer on the ocean floor would have to have been deposited more recently than ~65MaBP ...
the naming or "dating" of a sedimentary layer describes the age in which it was deposited ... therefore, the Cretaceous sedimentary layer(s) were deposited during the Cretaceous Period (~65Ma to ~140Ma BP) ...

simply untrue ... read previous ...

not quite ... scientists have found oceanic crust older than that ... The floor of the Black Sea is one example ... most are now upthrust, including some rather revealing ophiolites (pieces of oceanic crust which show the cross-section of layers from sedimentary surface to the deep columnar structures) ... and few geoscientists find it "impossible to believe" that most of the ocean floor is less than ~200 million years old ... that is one of the core proofs of plate tectonics ... and 200 million years remains much longer than 65 million years ... so?


once again, you are describing the Hadean epoch ... (~4.58BaBP - ~3.8BaBP) ... BaBP = billion years before present time ...

thus far, there is not a lot of evidence to indicate metal outflow from the core to the mantle across the D" layer ... assuming that is what you mean by "outer nucleus into asthenosphere" ?? ... there are indications of thermal exchange ... but little to suggest actual mixing ... the existence of the D'' layer (a discontinuity in seismic signal returns) actually disproves the idea ...

I'm afraid it's not a discovery ... whether you are referring to underplating of the lower mantle (the D" layer) ... or underplating of the crust (the Moho) ... these discoveries were made long ago ...

well ... it would if not for subduction zones ...

your statement here is self-contradictory ... "permanent renewing" ie, plate tectonics means by definition an ongoing process ... one not confined to catastrophic events ... and while the oceans are very big ... 200 million years is a very very long time ... more than enough for oceanic crust to be subducted ...

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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY CRAN
1. Meteorites, asteroids, comets, etc masses are different parts of different geospheres of collapsed planets or its natural moons.
2. It's possible rift occurred much earlier than 65MaBP, but separation movement was
possible during geocatastrophe. Can you prove rift occurred much earlier than 65MaBP.
3. Cosmogeological expertise ocean bed's map. Not so cheap traveling around ocean bed. It is law of geoevolution, and geoforces, most long period finished with most terrible geocatastrophes (there are many against the mainstream). Geocatastrophe finished with 90~99% extinction of species, including all saurians ... It's law of geocatastrophes.
4. It's possible ~90% extinction rate ... ( for both event )
5. For E/C Event (~545MaBP) law of geoevolution is same.

6. No, the Mid-Atlantic Ridge was formed during peaceful period. I'm referring margins between thin and thick lithosphere plates.
7. the Andes had not existed long before that ... all giant or small Mountains ranges geolayers were ancient into oceanes bed. It's possible few hill of Andes was hill of ancient island or land.
8 All oceans' thin lithosphere plate had own age. This solid masses were formed from asthenospheres's liquid masses during huge geocatastrophes.
9 Asthenospheres' surface has 1,500 C. temperature. During rapid movement plates on the asthenosphere, many places of asthenosphere was opened during small time. Opened red-hot (1,500 C) places is covering by ocean water by this time and beginning formation new ocean's bad (new thin ocean's lithosphere plates)
10. ~30% of macroscopic life survived ... It's possible. only small mammals because at that time, there were only small mammals ... you are right ... but other, larger creatures survive was not possible.
11. a large number of sea reptiles (crocodilians and turtles), sharks and rays, and jawed fish...... FALSE DATA!
12 "nuclear winter" unacceptable for Cosmogeology. You know circulation water in the atmosphere necessary temperature (0 ~ 100 c) 100Oc mistake.
13. I am in the team witch can support.... Small and big Caucasus mountain ranges, black sea, Caspian sea, etc. its geographical formation happened during K/T events, but its geological layers age more old.
14 "snowball Earth" theory ...unacceptable for Cosmogeology. "global glacier", is same as the huge glacier.
15. "small one"???.... dates are from investigations Antarctic's thick ice chunks.
16. Every geocatastrophe finished with glacial periods... It is law of geoevolution. between geocatastrophes glacial more small.
17. this sounds like a crude description of plate tectonics ... You can understand this sounds at the San-andres ....
18. This sounds like a more informed description of plate tectonics ... at least more detailed ... I'll try...
19. well, the Jurassic spans from ~140MaBP to ~200MaBP ... and there are plenty of places around the world with no traces found ... yet ... Don't try to find traces. It's very difficult and expensive.
There are many errors around dates.
20. simply untrue ... read previous ... you don't understand. lithosphere tiles older than 65 million years doesn't exist. SEDIMENTARY LAYER older than 65 million years exists at the costs.
21. Black sea... I wrote about ocean's bad... Everything is in the books of tectonic science.
22. (~4.58BaBP - ~3.8BaBP) ... BaBP = billion years before present time ... I'm only 40 years old.

23. EB geotransfer is law of geoevolution. there are indications of thermal and chemical elements exchange. You can disproves ....
24. Earth has two thin layer between solid and liquid aggregation state. Under crust and under D geosphere 185 km thickens. (cosmogeological layers).
25. well ... it would if not for subduction zones ... You are not right sometimes.
26. 200 million years not so very long time for geoevolution......
THANKS for you work and questions,
Margiani