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NOW MY THEORY IS IN THE MAINSTREAM OF MAIN SCIENCES.
**The new English cosmogeological words: 1. GEOTRACK-track of huge geological catastrophes 2. GEOEVOLUTION- geological evolution of the Earth geospheres 3. GEOCATASTROPHE- geological catastrophe caused by inner forces of the Earth 4. GEOTRANSFER-rapid movement of outer nucleus masses into asthenosphere 5. COSMOGEOLOGICAL LAYER- thin geospheres between solid and liquid aggregation state. It was huge geocatastrophe... What happened 65 million yaers ago and many interesting topics you can read in the my site FULL VERSION. www.cosmogeology.ge/chapter-16.htm -topic. 16 THE HUGE GEOCATASTROPHE 65 MILLION YEARS AGO. Can some day mankind find the clue? Because don't have any insufficient chance to survive the die as the dinosaurs. I only tried to help with my Cosmogeology of mammals kingdom... New excellent Cosmogeological theory about evolution in the universe... Decoded secrets... www.cosmogeology.ge Now only one underground nuclear explosion as the detonator of EB geotrasfer can causes catastrophic results for the mankind. NUCLEAR COUNTRIES ARE PLAYING TO THE EARTH'S FUTURE... MANKIND DON'T KNOW ELEMENTARY LAWS OF EARTH INNER GEOSPHERES. SCIENTISTS PLEASE HELP OUR PLANET's future. The Huge Geocatastrophe 65 Million Years Ago 65 million years ago one of the collapsed planet's (Ceres Titanic mather body)huge chunk (10 km in diameter) was crushed to the Earth on the north-west part ancient Africa-south American (without Andes) continent. Created giant cracks on the ancient tethys ocean bad and on the inner and outer margins of ancient Africa-American continents. Around centre of explosion was destroying and submerging almost all north-west part of ancient continent by this time. Only high mountain left submerging process and now they are as the islands and part of American continent around Caribbean sea. Giant meteorite's explosion caused not only shock-shaking all over the Earth, impact destroyed balance of huge geoforces between inner geospheres... Started EB geotransfer (huge geocatastrophe)...... C and D geosphere of mantle are under influence huge geoforces. Into outer nucleus is huge pressure. Reason is defect of volume into E geosphere. C and D geosphere are under huge pressure of asthenosphere and crust too. Geocatastrophe at the Cretaceous-tertiary boundary was such unbelievable "hell", that it has to be described in details. According to geotracks it was the most terrible geocatastrophe among the similar ones. I’m giving the information based on the expertise of geotracks of the huge geocatastrophe. By then North America and North (ancient) Africa-South American continent (witout Andes) were separated by the sea of 1,000 km. wide. This sea was the quiet bay of the ancient Tethys Ocean. The eruption into the Earth outer nucleus masses into asthenosphere caused the huge temporal rapid movement of continental platforms and huge folding-rugosity. The continental platforms movement on the abyssal ocean waves of asthenosphere was alike a small boat’s movement in the sea's waves. The continental platform of South America was fully separated from continental platform of Africa. Together with the continental platform of North America it began own movement on the fiery ocean waves of asthenosphere towards Asia. The geotracks of split are vividly noticeable on the Atlantic Ocean bed relief. On the north relief of Atlantic Ocean bed the geotracks of Earth continental platforms split lines and huge cracks is seen more distinctly. It doesn’t need any extra proof. All coasts of the Pacific Ocean almost formed about 65 million years ago. The continental platforms huge movement particularly destroyed beds of Pacific and ancient Tethys oceans. Movement of both America continents reaches towards nowadays mid-ocean ridges of Pacific Ocean was rapidly. This caused the huge folding-rugosity of all the oceans beds tiles and formation many new coasts. New mid-ocean ridges were formed later. At the same time happened a lot of huge intrusive bodies formation between destroyed ocean beds. New huge folding structures formed too. Accumulated huge masses of water, liquid magma and split ocean bed's tiles in the west part of the Pacific Ocean caused both continents movement backward direction almost modern place. Mid-oceanic ridges were formed later and thickened periodically during the small geocatastrophes. During the small geocatastrophes from the main borders (across mid-ocean ridges) of oceans lithosphere platforms fiery masses was flown out from asthenosphere. This slowly outflow is originator mid-ocean ridges during peaceful period. During EB geotransfer continental plateforms huge movement on the waves of fiery abyssal ocean of asthenosphere, with the cracked, split and destroyed oceans' beds tiles caused following results: 1. At the Pacific Ocean east and west coasts ocean's bed-tiles were split and cracked, especially the ancient rift zone at the coasts. Huge intrusive bodies formed into the split parts of the Earth crust. There were formed: Andes Mountains, small parts were added to northern Cordilleras. The Pacific Ocean's bed-tiles main part was submerged into asthenosphere especially under northern and southern America. The slowly process of submerging still goes on nowadays. 2. Same thing happened with west coasts of the Pacific Ocean, Parallel formation new west costs was followed huge formation process of various islands and peninsulas at the ancient west rift zones. *There are new folded land platforms From Kamchatca till Filipinas Island. 3. The pressure of Australian and American continents on the ocean bed-tiles connecting with Asia formed the folded structure of Indonesia islands. Himalayas increase in the high and new territories were added to it. High of Himalayas was grew up. 4. Huge masses of ocean water (flood) washed (all over the Earth) almost all destroyed continents. 5. Colossal masses of ocean water covered the cracked and split areas vast temporarily opened territories of the asthenosphere. *6. In the nowadays oceans new beds zones started colossal process of the boiling and evaporation of huge water masses, and started formation new beds of the oceans. The Earth during long time was covered by fiery water vapor and other volcanic suffocating gasses thick fiery clouds. The reason of this was the temporarily uncovered fiery ocean of asthenosphere between the destroyed and fractured ocean beds. 7. Black thick clouds covered the Earth for years. These clouds were formed by huge evaporation process of huge water masses. 8. During of few months in the whole atmosphere of planet Earth was a high temperature. On the new oceans beds formation zones it was more then 1,500 C. 9. Water, water vapor and late Fires destroyed, ruined the whole green cover (flora) of the Earth. 10. Catastrophic temperature, suffocating gasses, fiery water vapor caused global die of living beings. The poisonous and suffocating gasses suffocated and died almost all reptiles, animals and living beings. Only small mammals (rat like Zalambdalestes) were survived. The specific ability of them to craw down deep into the ground or underground caves helped them to survive. Otherwise mammals wouldn’t be able to capture the Earth during million of future years. 11. Almost all living water beings and fishes were boiled alive in seas and oceans. Only can to survive those creatures, which dwelt into big rivers or big and deep lakes in the high mountains, 12. For years Earth atmosphere was heated by warmth of the ocean waters and continental platforms new masses. 13. For several years Earth atmosphere became unfit for life until strengthening of its green cover. 14. The Earth diameter increased only few kilometers. 15. Few years were the epoch of heavy rains. Decreasing of atmospheric temperature lower then 100 C at the sea boundary mainly caused that rains. 16. Tethys Ocean disappeared. In its ancient rift zone young folded structures were formed, from Europe to Himalayas Mountains. There were formed the new platforms. There were formed the following seas: Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea Caspian Sea... The Atlantic Ocean also was formed. 17. The catastrophe was ended by huge glacier. The great epoch of dinosaurs and their contemporary creatures was finished in this terrible way. If we define the approximate age of the last geocatastrophes, we will have the following order: 1. Huge one: …570, 436, 360, 248, and 65 (million years ago). 2. Small one: … 32,000, 22,000, and 12,000 (years ago) It can be said that small force’s catastrophe is being late during 2,000 years. This data is of course approximate and is taken from scientists` investigations. According to the data given by scientists, 22,000 years ago a strong glacier happened. *The geocatastrophic events occurred 12,000 years ago were of almost the same scale. Before the small geocatastrophes the Pacific Ocean oceanic lithosphere tiles are submerging into asthenosphere depth by jolts or rapid slip. That is causing Continental temporal drift towards the direction of jolts. The reason of temporal drift is the increasing of tension between borders of lithosphere tiles. This tension causes global aggregation state changes into creaks and fractures. This process provides crust thickness gradual growth. Growth its XA geolayer under of the crust causes volume defect and vertical displacement of lithosphere platforms. Magma step by step flows into the cracks between tiles and as a result intrusive bodies are formed. The process of formation intrusive bodies causes the global defect of volumes into cracks. Together with the formation of intrusive bodies, tension between tiles grows and causes plate’s vertical and especially horizontal movement. Lithosphere plates are under influence bursting pressure. Under and between them this forces causes the displacement of plates towards each other. In certain areas continental platforms is rise from the sea level and «mountains grow». In definite ocean beds wave deformation occurs. Displacement of tiles towards each other in the areas similar to San-Anders is result of geoevolution. At last critical or apocalyptic stage, lithosphere tiles will starting temporarily drifting for few days and will causing catastrophic results which will be connected with this process. *On the Atlantic Ocean bed at the coasts from South America till Africa is possible to find the any traces of ancient living beings existing in Jurassic. 65 million years ago heavy rains and floods destroyed Ancient continental sedimentary layers. Particularly were destroyed upper sedimentary ancient layers of continents. On the Atlantic Ocean costal zones mainly Cretaceous sedimentary layer was sediment, but older layers happened to be in flood as well. Cordilleras drove the abyssal rivers towards newly formed Atlantic Ocean. Movement of African continental platform towards the Indian Ocean caused the cracking of eastern part of ocean bed and all costs, with the formation of intrusive bodies. Huge folding-rugosity process was in the Tethys Ocean, with the formation of intrusive bodies. Together with the folded structures, also high was added to Himalayas. This gigantic mountains range actually placed in the epicenter of strongest pressure from both continents of America, Africa and northern Asia. Backward movement of Africa, displacement of Antarctica and other continents formed the whole system of rift zone. *Between the continents of Africa and South America oceanic lithosphere tiles older than 65 million years doesn’t exist. It is known to the Atlantic Ocean coasts at the North America and North Africa lithosphere tiles geological age approximately 248 million years. By then as a result of huge split forces these two continents eastern part of Asia and other territory were formed. The Himalayas, northern Cordilleras grow up in high and add new territories. The scientists can’t find the oceanic crust earlier (older) Jurassic, it’s impossible to believe but it’s true. The life on the Earth was conceived in water. Its surface was almost covered with water in the earlier stage of the geoevolution. Continents only are formed later, as the result of powerful inner geoforces with crust-split crust-burst and huge folding-rugosity. Thick continental platforms were formed from the ancient oceans thin beds. The clue of this solution can be found in the geoevolution regulations. During the huge geocatastrophes masses rich with metal compounds have huge temperature, and they flow from outer nucleus into asthenosphere. As soon as the conditions in the asthenosphere situation is stabilized. The temperature in it remained still quite high. The lower layer of Earth crust, rich with metals starts melting process in the high temperature conditions. Million years later together with the decrease of temperature in the asthenosphere, a solid lower layer of crust starts growing again. Lower layer of crust is formed by metal crystals and other firm compounds. It can be said, that the lower part of Earth crust permanently undergoes the renewing process. To legitimate this discovery I’ll call the layer of permanent renewing a cosmogeological upper layer. Actually this layer was one of the reason of periodic small geocatastrophes happened on the Earth. These geocatastrophes are result of changing asthenosphere masses from liquid into solid condition when temporal displacement was finished between ocean beds plates. It causes the permanent defect of volume into asthenosphere. Because of permanent renewing tendency of ocean lithosphere plates during huge geocatastrophes with formation new continental platforms and submerging and malting thin huge lithosphere plates of oceans, just because of this reason the scientists were not able to find the plates of ocean beds older Jurassic… Earth is part of the universe. Geoevolution still continuing into Earth, Venus,Uranus, Neptune, Jupiter, Saturn...etc. Last edited by Margiani : 08-January-2007 at 01:43 PM. |
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Margiani, I think you're a little over the top. Geologists, biologists, and science in general have spent the last 200 years gaining acceptance for gradualism over catastrophism. Most of what happens is gradualism; it's hard to find anything more gradual than continental drift, for example, or deep ocean sediment buildup. When evidence of something really catastrophic is found, like the K-T crater, it currently takes a little nudging to gain acceptance. But wholesale assertions that attribute everything to catastrophes are inappropriate. Oh, mein Gott, I’m taking the other side. |
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This is a thread I created in order to house Margiani's posts in the ATM area (since they were in inappropriate places before). If he's not going to discuss them, though, it will be closed.
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Margiani. Let's start off by having you state your first counter-mainstream point, how you derived it, the evidence, maths, etc.. you have for it, and we'll analyze it from there. Be sure (it's a rule) that you answer EVERY question posed to you about your hypothesis ;-)
Waiting to hear your first proposition.
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Let's start at the top. Can you confirm your claims about the sea between North America and North Africa? (Hint: I think you are right on this one). As an aside, what in the world is a 'geotrack'? I don't think I've ever seen the word before. Also, it would help if you did your posts on a word processor (MS Word works fine) and used the spelling and grammar checker before copying to the post. That’s what I do, and did for this one, just to get rid of as many typos and grammatical errors as possible. (By the way, Word doesn’t recognize ‘geotrack’ or ‘cosmogeological’ as words). |
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However, since Margiani appears also to be proposing that the separation was "catastrophic" in a sense we might understand, he is -- to put it nicely -- a bit off the mainstream. Plate tectonics is mainstream these days, but the movement of plates is glacial, order of cm movements per year. Best we can determine there was no massive sudden wrenching apart of the continents. By the way, his context answers the next question: Quote:
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There are limits to what a spell/grammar checker can do, however. I suspect phrases like "unbeliever hell" will get through (although the result is somewhat amusing). Last edited by Abelian Grape : 01-November-2006 at 04:28 PM. Reason: spelling :) |
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If you'll begin right analyze maps of continental drifts, our oceans beds maps, continental and ocean lithosphere tiles geological structures, Earth's geospheres. Necessary good knowledge in Physics, Chemistry, Geology, and Astronomy. Q.-Conntinental drift could ever created mountine ranges? A.-No, because drift can create only rift zones with thin ocean lithospere tiles. drift is only reason of submerging and melting thin ocean lithosphere tiles into asthenosphere. To create Andes, Himalayas, Alpes, etc is necessary continental tiles rapid movement, destroyed thin ocean lithisphere tiles created thik continental lithosphere tiles and huge mountine ranges too. Only huge geological forces could created continental folding structures. We know that our all mountines geological layers were ocean bed for millions and millions years ago... Last edited by Nereid : 02-November-2006 at 09:00 AM. Reason: removed link (advertising) |
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By the way, Margiani, just a word to the wise. Others have been banned from this forum for repeatedly referencing their web site as a link in their messages. Your first two -- and your most recent -- are a bad start in this direction. Best that you take a close look at the forum rules, so that you don't run afoul of the Moderators.
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Unless, of course, those funny jets that come out of comets are caused by Scotsmen playing bagpipes. Moderator, I realize this entire thread is a waste of UT resources, but it has been fun. Do as you wish. |
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English language is excellent. I only created few cosmogeological words for English lunguage. |
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As I understand your post: You are starting with one topic, from modern theory of the evolution of the universe. (That is good, to start with one topic, but it is misleading in what your post proposes. Plate techtonics doesn't have much to do with the creation and evolution of the universe.) You state people must read your website to be informed of your ideas. (I disagree. You should be able to state your idea here, however much you may need to elaborate.) To begin with, you want to introduce as evidence our understanding of continental drift, maps of ocean beds etc... (You need to either provide links to the relevant reference material, or attach them if apropriate. It is bad form to reference them in general and expect your audience to wade through google pages to find which ones you may be referencing.) You state that it is necessary to have a good understanding of Physics, Chemistry, Geology, and Astronomy. Ok. You proceed with a question: Can continental drift account for, or have created, mountain ranges? Your answer: No, because drift can create only rift zones with thin ocean lithosperes. (I assume instead of "rift zones" with thin ocean lithospheres you mean mid-ocean ridges? These are different from rift in creation of new crust and lithosphere. But I digress) You go on to say that converging plates cannot account for the various mountain ranges on Earth, and that deposits from drift combined with Horst and Graben valleys are the only geologic forces that can create mountains. And that these must have occured during high-energy catastrophies. You finish by stating that the only geologic layers observable in mountain rock are ocean bed sediment and drift accumulation? Is this a fair translation of you hypothesis? Again, I am only trying to make sure I understand the exact particulars of your presentation. If I may, apropriate material in support of your hyposthesis is in order, as well as links to any cites that you feel may support your hypothesis. I also think a much greater level of detail is due, in particular why you feel established plate techtonics is not only a simpler explanation but that why, in your view, it cannot account for the creation of mountain ranges. And to finish, you need to provide clarification and detail on your theory of how drift, rift, etc... and/or mid-ocean ridges accounts for ALL mountainous regions on Earth. Please feel free to correct my interpretation of your post. It is hard for me to understand your post, and my interpretation is certain to be wrong in spots. Also, please be attentive to the call for detail and support. Once I am sure of exactly what we are talking about, and you have provided clarification and support, I will be happy to discuss your hypothesis. One more, but very important question. In the ATM forum, the burden of proof is completely upon you. It is not incumbent upon any forum member to "brush up" on yours or any other website, or to necessarily prove mainstream science. It is your responsibility to provide any knowledge needed in support, and to prove your hypothesis correct. With that knowledge, I again look forward to hearing more detail of this first hypothesis. Thanks, Serenitude
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