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Old 20-May-2003, 02:23 PM
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You gotta give her credit for one thing though, the huge quantity of written fiction she has produced. I am amazed at the effort that would be required just to think it all up. Is she doing a L. Ron Hubbard course in creative writting or what? Maybe she could do his cult management course though, its no good setting dates that you could never live up to. Not if your making a pretty penny out of it

I'm feeling charitable at the moment, so that was the only positive remark I could make for Nancy.
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....True, in a way, but you will note that much of the 'information' provided on her sites came from others.....Much is hers, I'm sure, but it makes you wonder how much is 'original' and how much is suggested by others' questions and comments.....
.....I'm pretty sure that's the gist of 'Chapter 4:Creating An Alternate World In Three Easy Steps' in the 'Cults Made EZ' handbook.....
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You gotta give her credit for one thing though, the huge quantity of written fiction she has produced. I am amazed at the effort that would be required just to think it all up. Is she doing a L. Ron Hubbard course in creative writting or what? Maybe she could do his cult management course though, its no good setting dates that you could never live up to. Not if your making a pretty penny out of it

I'm feeling charitable at the moment, so that was the only positive remark I could make for Nancy.
Trouble is that there are countless cases in the psychiatric literature of obsessive, sometimes schizophrenic, people who have created enormous volumes of material on alternate worlds that exist only in their heads. Many of them are far more interesting than Nancy Lieder (who, when all is said and done, has merely served up a bunch of standard New Age platitudes mixed-in with some lightly warmed-over textbook ufology).

But many are far more interesting than Nancy. Here is a short discussion of the strange case of Kirk Allen (who some believe was actually the science fiction writer Cordwainer Smith):

https://www.nsacom.net:1952/txt/Webs...arytales04.htm

(see the 'The Jet-Propelled Couch' section)

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Once Dr. Lindner obtained Allen's confidence he was shown the following documentation of Kirk Allen's cosmos:

An autobiography of Allen, 12,000 pages long, in 200 chapters. Appended to this were a further 2,000 pages of notes and annotations. Many of these notes were written in shorthand that Allen himself had devised.

A glossary of names and terms, over 100 pages long.

82 maps, drawn to scale in full color, consisting of 23 planetary maps in four projections, 31 continents on these planets, the rest being maps of cities on those planets.

161 architectural drawings, to scale and extensively annotated, some in color.

12 genealogical tables.

18 pages describing the galaxy in which Kirk Allen lived, with four astronomical charts, and nine star maps.

A 200 page history of the empire ruled by Kirk Allen, with 3 pages of important historical events, battles, etc.

44 file folders containing up to 20 pages each of memoranda on the different planets Kirk Allen ruled or visited. These had titles like "The Metabiology of the Valley Dwellers," "The Transportation System of Seraneb," "The Application of Unified Field Theory and the Mechanics of the Stardrive to Space Travel," "Anthropological Studies on Srom Olma I," "Plant Biology and Genetic Science of Srom Olma I," and much more.

306 drawings, some painted, of extraterrestrial machines, animals, clothing, instruments, people, plants, insects, weapons, vehicles, buildings, even furniture.
Well, Nancy just pales into insignificance...

Oh - the page I just cited contains a short discussion of the UMMO phenomenon. This was a form of global UFOcultism that has strange parallels with Zetatalk, but predates the internet. I believe it may still be with us - these things take a long time to die, and I'm afraid the same may be true of Zetatalk.
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