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Old 26-May-2003, 03:14 PM
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When was the eclipse for May 31 found out about, I heard that up until the middle of 2002 it was not shown on any calanders is this true, I thought they new of these things in advance.

Also they was a link a while back showing every time this special link date (18 years) on a pages past and future anyone know the link.
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Old 26-May-2003, 03:18 PM
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You have already posted this in another forum.
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Old 26-May-2003, 03:33 PM
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Much as I hate feeding a troll (and considering the number of wide-eyed "What's that!"/free-floating anxiety posts you've made in a very short time, I really fear you are one), I'm providing you with two links:

#1 - http://www.astronomy.no/eclipse310503.html - Astronomy Norway. Please note that the site about the eclipse was created 01/01/03. So much for no one knowing about it until just now.

#2 - If solar eclipses are of such concern to you, go here http://tinyurl.com/coub and request the NASA Eclipse Bulletins. They'll keep you up to date and prevent eclipses from sneaking up and biting your tush.

It probably hasn't been greatly publicized in North America since it's looks like it won't be observable from here. And please cut down on your caffeine intake.

Reswearing the "I will not feed the trolls" oath... :roll:

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Old 26-May-2003, 04:01 PM
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http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...003May31A.html

Looks like the source material for this page was written in 1986. The page itself was written in 2000.

Please do your own research from now on. Stay off Godlike, too.
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Old 26-May-2003, 04:09 PM
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You have already posted this in another forum.
Actually, (s)he posted it here. The BA moved it to the appropriate forum (General Astronomy).
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Old 26-May-2003, 04:13 PM
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And before you start spouting off about the retrograde nature of the eclipse or the "fact" that it can't occur at sunrise or sunset...

1) It will be seen in the northern hemisphere.
2) At this time of the year the northern hemisphere is oriented towards the sun, meaning that the polar regions get close to 24 hours of sunlight.
3) The shadow of the moon will actually overshoot the pole and so be visible in northern Europe. At that time it will be SUNSET... while in Alaska and Yukon it will be close to sunrise... Get a globe and sit in a closet with a flashlight will ya?
4) Because of 3 above, it will appear to move retrograde in Europe...
5) My list of solar eclipses from the 70's lists this one.

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Old 26-May-2003, 04:17 PM
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You have already posted this in another forum.
Actually, (s)he posted it here. The BA moved it to the appropriate forum (General Astronomy).
Well, the post in gen astronomy was posted around 8 am and this post was at 10 am or so. Aren't posts that are moved labeled as such?
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Old 26-May-2003, 04:22 PM
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I heard that up until the middle of 2002 it was not shown on any calanders
No. the program I use was created in 1996 and it shows this eclipse. The sun and moon are extreamly predictable.
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http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEpath/SEpath2001/SE2003May31A.html
Looks like the source material for this page was written in 1986. The page itself was written in 2000. Please do your own research from now on. Stay off Godlike, too.
Now there's proof of a conspiracy! No internet pages created in 1986 showing the eclipse.
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Old 26-May-2003, 04:34 PM
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Well, the post in gen astronomy was posted around 8 am and this post was at 10 am or so. Aren't posts that are moved labeled as such?
Oops! I have not been to the GA board yet. There was a post by skywatcher moved from here to there. I assumed that it was the same one. ops:
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Old 26-May-2003, 04:39 PM
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I think that "Godlike" site is gonna give him an ulcer (and through him, us as well)
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Old 26-May-2003, 04:41 PM
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Well, the post in gen astronomy was posted around 8 am and this post was at 10 am or so. Aren't posts that are moved labeled as such?
Oops! I have not been to the GA board yet. There was a post by skywatcher moved from here to there. I assumed that it was the same one. ops:
No harm, no foul.
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Old 26-May-2003, 06:54 PM
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Hello...new to the posting, but have been a reader of the board for quite a while. I really enjoy this board, and have learned a lot, but I can't stand having skywatcher posting this garbage everyday, and then when it gets thrown out as nothing, we don't hear from him until he finds another piece of garbage to post.

get a grip skywatcher...there are many intelligent people who want to discuss material in a scientific and educational way. Every question, link, evidence you have brought forward has been very quickly explained in a proper scientific fashion. It is frustrating for me as a reader to see you posting, when you know whatever you bring forward will be quickly disproved.

THERE IS NO PX!!!!!!!!
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Old 26-May-2003, 09:21 PM
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Hello...new to the posting, but have been a reader of the board for quite a while. I really enjoy this board, and have learned a lot, but I can't stand having skywatcher posting this garbage everyday, and then when it gets thrown out as nothing, we don't hear from him until he finds another piece of garbage to post.

get a grip skywatcher...there are many intelligent people who want to discuss material in a scientific and educational way. Every question, link, evidence you have brought forward has been very quickly explained in a proper scientific fashion. It is frustrating for me as a reader to see you posting, when you know whatever you bring forward will be quickly disproved.

THERE IS NO PX!!!!!!!!
I think the part that is especially irritating is that it's repeated pics of pretty much the same thing over and over..
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Old 27-May-2003, 06:29 PM
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Skywatcher, solar eclipses are not normally "put on calendars" in the first place. None of the eclipses scheduled for 2003 are featured on any of the calendars I have in my house. Calendar manufacturers don't bother because not that many people are interested, and it saves ink and printing to leave them off.

So it's really stupid for someone to say, "Ah ha! This week's annular eclipse isn't on the calendar!" as though that proves some conspiracy theory.

And just FYI, we have been able to predict eclipses of the sun since at least 1937.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/eclipse_ref.html
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Dyson, F. and Woolley, R. (1937). Eclipses of the Sun and Moon. Oxford: Clarendon Press. A comprehensive description of the geometry, dynamics, prediction, natural cycles, expeditions, observations, and research problems, with emphasis on physics.
Not to mention 500 B.C.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/723/38614.html


Skywatcher, for someone to say that this week's solar eclipse "wasn't mentioned anywhere until just recently" is really, really, really stupid. I mean, it's totally idiotic. It's off-the-wall asinine. It's whack-me-on-the-head-'cause-I'm-such-a-dumba*s stupid.

Clear now?

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Old 27-May-2003, 06:33 PM
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And I see that Skywatcher did in fact cross-post this, two hours after his General Astronomy thread. Please don't do that, Skywatcher, it's VERY annoying to see the same topic in two different forums.

The identical OP.

http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5758
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Old 27-May-2003, 07:14 PM
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Old 27-May-2003, 07:27 PM
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I repeat

Not something that I would normaly do but hey, you seem to think it is ok :-?

come on this poor fritened newbee neads are help here.

Right skywatcher, this is a self help kind of thing, are you paying attention now?

your chalange, should you choose to accept it (and I suggest you do!) is to find another post in godlike or some-such which freaks you out. When you have found this new, apparent, 'evidence for the imnent destruction of the earth as we know it'. go to google or what ever and carry out a search, make note of the evidence that you collect, get a variety of different sources from scientific sites, news sites etc.. see what they all have to say on the subject.

Then write it up into a post for us all. show us the orrigional concern - with link - then explain how you have looked at the evidence for it's existance (or lack of) and then - and only then tell us what conclusions you have come to.

ok, post it as a new thread.

Title it 'Skywatch the magnificent'

we will all watch for it to come up on the board and I will ask wolf to make you a ' I am over all this px noncence' certificate which you can print of an put on your wall, next to the list of cheering posts which I am sure you will get from us all if you accept this challence and pass.
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Old 27-May-2003, 07:45 PM
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go to google or what ever

Might be good to note that as the search engine http://www.google.com just in case going to google is a bit of a mystery.


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Old 27-May-2003, 08:46 PM
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Solar eclipses aren't going to be placed on calendars because they are decidedly local events. You have to be in exactly the right place as well as the right time. No calendar maker is going to list something that the majority of people aren't going to be able to see anyway (excepting perhaps astronomical ones and localized calendars only circulated in the viewable area).
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Old 28-May-2003, 04:39 AM
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Thank you, David, I knew there was a good reason for it somewhere...
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Old 28-May-2003, 04:58 AM
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Good point!
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Old 28-May-2003, 05:43 AM
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Hello...new to the posting, but have been a reader of the board for quite a while. I really enjoy this board, and have learned a lot, but I can't stand having skywatcher posting this garbage everyday, and then when it gets thrown out as nothing, we don't hear from him until he finds another piece of garbage to post.

get a grip skywatcher...there are many intelligent people who want to discuss material in a scientific and educational way. Every question, link, evidence you have brought forward has been very quickly explained in a proper scientific fashion. It is frustrating for me as a reader to see you posting, when you know whatever you bring forward will be quickly disproved.
So why click on the threads that he starts? No-one's paying you to read or respond.

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