Is that a camera relection...

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/OREGCAM1.JPG

here is the original post, the thing i dont understand is how according to all these pics the supposed PX seems to stay stationary everytime it is seem in a pic, it has been at the same sport for over a week...also everyone there seems to be talking about a black dot in the sun visible with a filter anyone actually see this thing.

http://66.242.35.139/bbs/message.php...page=1&topic=3

http://groups.msn.com/humantrophy/yourwebpage.msnw

can it be a sundog or is it a lense flare,

Yup,

it's a real planet, only visible for one frame!!!

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I don't know why I am taking the bait and even wasting time posting to this. Obviously you got this pic from godlike, which should have automatically sent up a warning flag. Secondly, there is no Planet x. This picture appears to be the same as all the otheres posted, usually followed with a "what is this". This pic has been doctored, notice the color in the suns lights, and the little white spot(I assume thats what you are referring to, I didn't see anything else) is either a sundog, a reflection, or a break down in the camera. Web cameras are not the most reliable cameras in the world for pictures, as has already been discussed. I have said all I care to now,(yet another rant on my part, I must need more caffeine), and I seriously doubt I will ever reply to one of these "What is it" post again.
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/halo/parhelia.htm
Check this out for a description of sundogs, and other problems when taking pictures through the earths atmosphere.

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*YAWWWWWN* Well, another picture of the sun with a shady digital camera. How interesti....zzzzzz.

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The following tale of alien encounter is true and by true, I mean false. Its all lies. But they're entertaining lies, and in the end isn't that the real truth? The answer is no. - Leonard Nimoy, The Simpsons (maybe regarding Planet X?) :D

The black dot on the sun is notihng but a camera issue. If you dont believe me go watch that Texas webcam and youll see the dot in the exact same spot on the sun

As for the other thing,I dont know. heres a little clip of the movie http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/whitan2.gif

To tell the truth, that bright light could have been a number of objects. I'm not sure the position of the moon at the time, but it's a possibility. The pictures are such poor quality that you can barely make out anything. Do you have a link to the actual webcam itself coolguy? It'd be interesting to investigate a little further.

BTW, well done for pointing out that the black dot is a camera issue!

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Oh, no problem... found it!

http://www.geonet.org.nz/whiteisland.html

The "anomoly" appeared at 9 or 10 pm? I can't quite make it out on the animated GIF. Anyhow, there is no bright light in the sky after sun-down on the current set of slides. If it were a PX-like object, surely it would still appear in the same position?

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The following tale of alien encounter is true and by true, I mean false. Its all lies. But they're entertaining lies, and in the end isn't that the real truth? The answer is no. - Leonard Nimoy, The Simpsons (maybe regarding Planet X?) :D

Here is the webcam with the black dot on the sun. Watch the sunset on it and the dot will be there,which can show its a camera issue. http://www.stephenville.com/weather.asp

Umm yeah,for those pics check this http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/WHTISL.JPG
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/WHTIS7L.JPG
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/WHTIS7L2.JPG

Hey coolguy - Outstanding job remaining calm!!

dgruss23, you need to find a "calm" smiley!

Then you can just post that.

Skywatcher:

Please don't take this the wrong way but you seemed to be very taken in by the Planet X issue. You sound like you are fairly young and that you have just learned of this "whole thing" only recently. You have made a number of posts like "what is this?" Please understand that Zeta Talk is pure crap. It has carefully pulled together a number of conspiracy theories that have been circulating for years on the internet and in UFO circles and has indoctrinated theories by Sitchin (i.e. 12th Planet) and others.

Sitchin's theory never talked about this rogue planet coming by in 2003 nor did he get into pole shifts and things of this nature in any great detail. His presented a compelling argument for certain Sumerians writings pre-dated biblical writings like Genesis and Exodus and postulated the theory that what if there were alien civilizations in the past who lived on earth and if so, to what extent could these facts have shaped in some fashion our conceptual development of God and the history of man and the extent to which they may have interacted with and/or influenced the development of human life on this planet.

This is a long way from Zeta Talk. I have communicated with Ms. Nancy Leider via e-mail on several occasions. She made a statement about Missouri and what was going to happen after the so-called "shift". Her (Zetas) understanding of Missouri was such that they thought Missouri is flat like Iowa or Illinois or even Kansas. So the Zeta's predicted because several major rivers flow through Missouri, that it was going to be a big lake. I simply asked her how this could be and what about southwestern Missouri? You see Missouri is in fact very hilly (approx. 1/2 the state) and some might even describe it as Mountainous in the Ozarks. She didn't know this fact and neither did her Zeta buddies. But interestingly enough in a follow up in their "Zeta Safe Locs" on their next update they re-wrote their predictions. I have seen this time and time again with Zeta Talk. They have literally rewrote or edited out whole sections and passed them off "archives". I and quite a few others ran off copies of their stuff in 1997. It's changed, why... because their is an agenda with Zeta talk and she is desperate to keep this alien/channel BS in tact. It is impowering for her and bring her recognition. After all look at this whole message board dedicated to no other than Ms. Nancy Leider.

As many here have tried to convince you unsuccessfully, there is no planet X coming, at least not in the near future. If the things were coming to pass as the Zeta's have predicted you and anyone else standing next to you would be able to go outside and see the phenomen that you are so frightened of. It is not there. The weather is not changing (or at least acting no differently than it does in any other el nino year); the planet is not slowing, nor are the Zeta's working feverishly behind the scenes to alert mankind to this doom that the elite are keeping us in the dark about.

Ask yourself this question: If the Zeta's are really here and really trying to help us poor little humans why have they given the world pictures and historical undeniable pfoof. According to them, this happens to our world every 3,657 years and they bear witness (for us) of other pole shifts and events.

They are a million years more advanced than we are and yet not one little itsy bitsy tiny picture exists of prior twelfth planets. Hmm? They are more than willing to say Clinton had Ron Brown killed, Our government shot down TWA flight 800, and George Bush is really an alien, I believe part of the so called "Reptilian" aliens and actually shape shifts into a lizzard. 911 was planned as part of the conspiracy to cover up Planet X. It goes on and on with her. When pressed on this point she will tell you that the Zetas can't give us direct proof because of the.?...oh yeah "Rules of Engagement" and the Council of Worlds forbids it. Apparently it does not violate the Rules of engagement for the Zetas to give us precise astronomical data about this inbound planet of death nor to tell us highly classified government information. But it does violate the rules of engagement to show us pictures of the world from 20 to 30 thousand years ago, or pictures of the last twelth planet, or even undeniable proof of Moses and company crossing the Red Sea, but make no mistake they were there, because afterall they said so.

Zeta talk put the date out there for May 2003. No one else. They started this on the web in 1996. Others may have picked up on it, but it was them and them alone. It's utter BS. I defy you to give me one shred of evidence that the Zeta's and Nancy have come up with that has told anyone anything of substance about anything. If you really want to get shook 2011, 2012 and 2013 are all dates when the sky will fall. And make no mistake about it as we get closer to these dates Zeta Talk will be a distant memory and the new scudlebut will be the Leumerians or the Pleadians all telling us poor little humans the bad news about our future.

Despite all of this you still keep posting What is this stuff etc. My question is why? My answer is either You are just enjoying the posting here (i.e the attention), or you are young and gullable and are not doing any research on this on your own.

Skywatcher. Planet X is not coming. You do not need to rely on photos of the Sunset or sunrise for this. Unless you are blind and live in a cave. I would urge you go outside with your binoculars in hand and look at a sunrise or sunset. Try not to look directly at the sun or you will see all kinds of planet X's most of them which will appear to be blue spots. Get yourself a wrist watch and sychnchronize it with your computer. You will see that time is not slowing down. Follow the news around the world and you will see that earthquakes and ocean sink holes are not occuring either. The world is not coming to end. Relax 8)

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I understand where you are coming from and see the logic in it, I know that the is no ****ible way PX is there caue we see no effects but there are many picks appearing daily more and more that clearly show sommething, if you look at godlike there are about 10 different posts wioth 10 different objects that are all cordinated, these pics are coming off live webcams,

Ya see Nero, ya try, but naaaaaaaaaaa skywalker is not buying, all that effort to. Good post by the way an nice to meet you.

Coolguy! have a well done sticker that was brill

Skywatcher, next time you see something odd from one of those posted webcams go here: http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/latest.html and compare notes

My very, *VERY* last post in one of Skywatcher's threads:

You say:


and then follow it with:

If you don't see the contradiction there, nobody can help you. I don't think that anyone can debunk every bad photo/lens flare/sundog/etc. picture in existence for you. My advice would be to take everyone else's advice and stay off of Godlike, turn off your computer for a while and read a nice book. Maybe "Flim-Flam" by James Randi, "Fads & Fallacies in the Name of Science" by Martin Gardiner or best of all, "Bad Astronomy" by the boss guy here.

Psi-less

I love looking at these pictures. When I just followed the link the third one down,the yellow one, will show up either on a zetaloon site, or will be referenced. On the bottom left corner there is a pixel field missing. She has used these before and claimed that it is a cover-up. Anyway, the main reason I am posting this reply is in case "somebody" sees this same picture, it has already been explained.

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Skywatcher:

I give up. If you understood where I was coming from you would not be confused. This little corner of the web is not the world. Even the Zeta's said that all would see it when it came. Interestingly only those with web cams seem to be lucky. Good luck with your life. Be discerning or be disappointed.

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Skywatcher,watch this video,please,really do so. It really helped me out with my worries.

http://www.exn.ca/Stories/2003/05/02/54.asp

Awesome link coolguy.

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Eh lad your getting good a this

well, sky, that is, in fact Planet X. and its hurtling towards us as we speak. I figure you've got, oh, maybe, a dozen minutes before it crashes into us. maybe you ought to get to your safe place.

feel better now?

SKY or Skywatcher ?

Sorry to bug you guys about this, I just don't what anyone just tunning in to confuse me with Skywatcher. :wink:

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SKY.. Remain calm

this is how someone told me to look at it through naked eye,

OK, the best way to be sure about the famous dot is to see it by naked eye, protected with the dark filter though. Forget cameras for the moment. I see it for the last three days watching through black filter (a special glasses) but any black peace of glass could be fine. DO NOT USE floppy disk or any plastic folium - those are not safe, so you can only hurt your eyes.


apparently you see the black dot to.

What do you mean? Go try it yourself and let us know what you see. 8)

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I swear theres' an echo in here!

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While I find it stupid skywatcher comes here and post pictures then runs off is wrong,I do like reading people explaining what is really shown in the photos!
However- There are a few photos of a supposived 2nd sun that havent been posted and im wondering about myself :-?

We had a decent sunset here in the 'Burgh and I only saw one of 'em coolguy.

truly sorry about that.

attention Skywatcher ... that pic is, in fact Planet X. and its hurtling towards us as we speak. I figure you've got, oh, maybe, three minutes before it crashes into us. maybe you ought to get to your safe place.

feel better now?