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"I don't regret what I've done in other words and I don't blame anybody. I, I take responsibility for what I've done."

Nancy Lieder

From the Lou Gentile show 6th June, 2003



Lou:

Ladies and gentlemen, Nancy Lieder, hello dear.



Nancy:

Hi, I'm glad to be back and err.. we do have some explaining to do, but there's a very good reason that Lou and I were trashed, why I lost two of my six mirror sites, lost my web master, my assistant web master, lost a staunch member of my "sighting" team and had to answer about 3000 e-mails about what about the dates? There's a very good reason.... and the simple reason is, as was explained in e-mail and on the radio shows all this week, err.... and a group last week also, ahm.... It was a deliberate "white lie" to show you what the US government and other governments, such as the US government, who planned to impose martial law and actually rid themselves of a lot of number of unwanted citizens, would do. Going into the week of the 15th, as we all know because I was on YOUR show Lou the 16th......



Lou:

Hmm, hmmm....



Nancy:

...they called opera, the US called operation "TOPOFF," a hundred agencies, ahm... mobilised including Canada, err... "WINTER SUN" in New York City, all these terrorist exercises for some week, ahh... for some reason, ahh... that week, so after the 16th when we announced specific dates for the 20th and 21st for rotation stoppage, BOOM... went to level ORANGE in the Homeland security alert system, the next level up allow them to tell you to stay in homes and not leave. Certainly stay in your cities and not leave and this would allow them to trap you on the coast, to trap you in the inland cities that are along, are along the, ahh large rivers. If they wish to they could selectively allow certain citizens to escape, they had good teeth and strong backs and, err.. err... all unwanted mouths to feed would just die. If you don't think this is what they're up to then why didn't they tell YOU, why they were going to this effort, just when the long announced Zetatalk date was arriving? This was a demonstration to show you in a way that could not be said by mere words what they were up to and a cover-up does exist. Back to you Lou.



Lou:

Hmmmm.... So your trying to say that the, the Zetas were orchestrating this because they wanted to throw everybody off?



Nancy:

They wanted to throw the US government into a demonstration of what they would do if they had a firm date and not do. You'll notice that altering their citizens was not on the list of what they planned to do. They are not going to tell you what they know, instead they're going to go to level "ORANGE," just below level "RED" where they can impose martial law until you do not travel, do not go to safety you stay in your home and you drown or whatever, but you have to stay there, they can do that to you of pain of being shot down by the military or whatever and they did not tell you why they went to level "ORANGE," it was "oh well, err... there was some bombings overseas." Well so what? We have bombings over seas all the time, Bali bombings, etc., nothing new. They did this because of our announced dates.



Lou:

Well, what, what have the Zetas told you now?



Nancy:

They have said when they put out, ahh.. after we missed the dates of 20th and 21st a couple of days later they had me type up this thing called "White Lie" which I've got on my website and gave to e-mails, to... I don't know how many thousands of people so far, anyone who asked and essentially they said it was a deliberate lie and May 15th shortly thereafter May 15th for instance was also a deliberate lie because they intended to go through this, everything else about Zetatalk can be considered accurate, although I'm not saying you should rely on that now, because I can't say any more "a hundred percent accuracy," I have to say "ninety-nine point five percent accuracy," in all honesty, but because we crowed about this, Zetatalk accuracy track record I was SO proud of it and they were SO proud of it and they emphasised it all the time the US government and Indonesia and other governments said "Hey they're not going to float false dates, ahh.. they just don't do that, they are too proud of their accuracy track record," and they trashed you Lou and they trashed me, and, ahh... ahh.. just to show you because what err.. what is at stake here? How many people live in coastal cities and inland cities along rivers. ahh... at least tens of millions in the US. That's how many innocent people would be denied an opportunity to go to safety or take charge of their own life. Who, who are these people to say they're going to decide who lives and dies? That's not right.



Lou:

Well doesn't this make you kind-of make you question the Zetas though?



Nancy:

Well.....



Lou:

Hon, hon, honestly?



Nancy:

I can see the logic behind it when I saw what the US government did, err... I thought, I thought what a beautiful executed actually, I mean I was a little bruised, I had some rough days I can tell you that, but they said they did that at this time because they knew the Earth changes would be coming up so rapidly that, that, uhmm... Zetatalk would not lose, people would not forget what was said nor would they, uhmmm... question Zetatalk really. I mean we have always said to people look at the Earth changes and this THING, this anomaly next to the sun has got people calling into TV stations, radio stations, saying "what is that THING next to the sun that I can see? It's a second sun." We have had really dramatic evidence that there's a cover-up and I'll give you a specific, uhmm... a little woman called by the name of "Misty" in LA, ahhh... went up and sat up all night and registered what the "web cam" on Mount Wilson, that's a UCLA Observatory, uhmm... took pointing towards the sunset, the whole, every, every shot, which happens every seven minutes. "Here it comes," she says "that's the sun." A few minutes later "here comes the sun," to the left. It's absolutely dramatic. The moon hangs below this rising first sun, which is of course smaller than the real sun and its a small presence you can see, because it isn't a new moon at that time. So we put on.., she gets this on May 26th, I get it on the web May 28th. Late 28th Mount Wilson shuts their "web cam" down and, and points it in a different direct.., or points it in a different direction I should say and hangs a basket ball that say's "Planet X" on it, in front of the "Web cam." It was kind-of funny, I thought it was funny. But then they, they will refuse to point to the sunset now, I mean to the sunrise, err.. they shut it down and said the US government had asked them to shut it down for terrorism reasons, well its pointing at the mountain tops and the fog banks, I don't know how a terrorist is going to be aided by that. For a while they pointed it at the city, but now they're back to pointing it at the sunset..., pardon me the sunrise, but a guy in Norway, uhmm... took, ahhh... a couple of nights, June 4th and June 5th sat.., uhmm... and sat up..., actually it was daytime for him there, so he took a couple of sets and what he discovered is that they were inserting white blanks a certain times, then they inserted a sunrise from another date, you can tell this because the reflections are different....



Lou:

Ok...



Nancy:

....and, uhmmm... back to the sun, err... sunrise, but they ended up pointing the camera in such a way, I got a peek on my website that shows this, that they cut out the area of the sky where Planet X was rising. You see the sun, you do not see Planet X rising as the second sun. They are refusing to where "Missy" captured this and , uhmm.... they're even saying that what she captured was the Moon, a reflection of the Moon. Nobody's buying that, the Moon's a small crescent and this thing is a big glowing orb, ahhh... several times the size of the moon and as it appears in the sky there.



Lou:

Yer' got to admit Nancy, you, you got-a be baffled in a, in a way?



Nancy:

Well I'm not baffled because I think there's a cover-up. I heard, ahhh.... yesterday from someone in Australia who said that Australia is moaning, the Earth is trembling and moaning and for two weeks he's felt this and he finally called, somebody directed him to the geological, uhmm... division there, I'm not sure, geological survey, geological, and they said to him we know about this, yes, but there's uhmm.. a suppression of the news, ahh... but don't worry there's not a problem and he said if there's not a problem then why is that suppressed?



[Long Silence]



Nancy:

.....Now before we go too much further Lou, I'd like to you that somebody knocked out my, uhmmm... the, knocked my web site out of the DNS, the Domain Name Servers, see if you type in Zetatalk.com you can't get it, this has happened this afternoon, uhmmm... and for some reason that happened, it wasn't ME, somebody with a lot of skill and a lot of access to domain name servers, I won't mention who that might be, BUT, uhmmm... I do have a lot of alternative ways for people to get to my primary web site, its a series of numbers, if you don't mind I'd like to give it to your readers, er... listenership?



Lou:

Sure.



Nancy:

Instead of Zetatalk.com or www.Zetatalk.com type in 216.220.173.201 and I'll repeat that. 216.220.173.201 and that's to replace the www.Zetatalk.com , ahh...

I did that because there's nothin' there, there's no truth to the Zetatalk message and they got nothin' to worry about, right?



Lou:

Right.... Well Nancy ex, explain to me when this happened, wh, what this happened today?



Nancy:

This afternoon. I actually uploaded a bunch of stuff this morning and other people said they accessed it, uhmm... early afternoon, until it was about mid to late afternoon, just ahead of your show Lou. Happened to me before that type thing, where they crash my website in some manner, uhmmm... Now I, I didn't do this, I own this and, and InterNick is not supposed to change, er... my web site in any way on the Domain Name Server, er... and in the first place it takes a while for that to role out, so whoever did this had a lot of, uhmm... control over, over systems networks around the world.



Lou:

And it's still like that?



Nancy:

Its, it was last time I checked a couple of minutes ago, yea.



Lou:

Because right now I'm on Network Solutions and did a "whois" and your record popped right up.



Nancy:

Yea, but try typing in http://www. Zetatalk.com....



Lou:

It comes up....



[Long silence]



Nancy:

Well that's good news.



Lou:

Ha, ha , ha, it's there.



Nancy:

That's good news. It sure wasn't there all afternoon.



Lou:

Well....



Nancy:

I'm very happy about that.



Lou:

Could of been that you were getting a lot of hits and it went down, sometimes that happens.



Nancy:

Yea, but not the DNS, the DNS is just a link it would "time out" if I got a lot of hits and it was not my ISP, wonderful Pennsylvania Online there in Harrisburg Lou, because if you type in these numbers that's the absolute address that's instead of the logical address, uhmm... and it went right through. So this was in the Domain Name Servers, I think somebody was told to put it back, because something like this is a little too obvious. Well anyway to get back to the evidence, uhmm... other than the photographs and I think that, uhmm, the "Misty LA" using the "web cam" is one of the most dramatic examples, uhmmm... we have had, err... global earthquakes happening since May 26th, uhmmm... and I have those, er.. live seismographs captured and, er.. of record on my website. If you click on the global quakes, under the Zeta face banner and, er... its all there, you click on the face you can see on May 26th it was dramatic, uhmm... both when the Atlantic Rift was homing into view, where the inbound, er... Planet X could grab it if it was, the crust coming around the curve, so to speak, in the dawn, and it was leaving at dusk, uhmm... and, and escaping we had these global quakes and there's been patterns of, er... showing that this planet is rising up to the ecliptic, moving in between the Earth and the Sun, ahhh... and getting closer. Never the less this is a little bit, uhmmm... how should I say, intellectual for the average person, ya know to get a grip on, but this is the pattern that shows that its also approaching. Now what the Zetas have suggested, is, watch the Earth changes, watch the government reacts and use this as a guide for the dates, because if they float an exact date and it is not very far in the future, its right around the corner, then you will find yourself trapped in your homes, herded into, er.. camps and misused and abused and murdered and, uhmmm... enslaved, all these possibilities. So they want the government, who want to do this to you, or some people in the government who want to do this to you, is establishment is just as surprised as that little Espanic family with many children in the middle of the city, er... as that elderly retired in, er.. Florida, ahhh.. as that, ahhh... you know that farming that maybe close to the Missouri river and there's likely to be flooded. These people deserve to know just as much as the White House and by gum we're goin' to fix it that ways so you get just as much advance notice as the other guys.



Lou:

Well, how, how, how, what I'm trying to figure out is how are you going to know when the Zetas are going to give you the right information. I mean, they, they, they basically, know got now a, a lot of people who have probably made life altering plans and what not, I'm sure there's percentage of them, even though I wouldn't suggest anybody do that, but I'm sure there's many people out there that are probably extremely ****ed off, wouldn't you say?



Nancy:

Oh ya, and I hear from all of them, he, he....



Lou:

I'm sure, ha, ha.



Nancy:

.....but, but here's the thing to look for, its what you should have been looking for in the first place, we have always said "examine the prior Earth changes and the current Earth changes, look at what's going on and, and the trends, the weather and the quakes and whatever and, err... look at the sky where we've been pointing and take a peek and see for yourself and examine the infra-red images, whatever and lately since late March go look yourself and people are increasingly saying "Oh my gosh! I bin lookin' for it and had trouble, but I was just out jogging the other night and I was holst up over the hill and I, there it was in the sunset and I just about fell over" and I hear this a lot from people that it becomes more and more wasy to find it because its gotten quite large, uhmmm... and, errr... its, they should be anyways watching their government, how it reacts and watching for Earth changes as a guide. They, this is something you, we have never said "THE ZETAS HAVE SPOKEN AND YOU SHOULD AND THOU SHALL." This is not a cult, this is not, er, er... we've made a statement and yer supposed to march off. We have never advised the people to do that. We have always advised that they think for themselves.



Lou:

Yeh, but what about, what about, you know claiming that Zetas, you know, were accurate and everything else like that, this doesn't, this really doesn't look good, you know?

Nancy:

I have to tell you it shot that right in the solar plexus, it really did. I can no longer say a hundred percent accuracy, I can't. I have to say, my personal experience is ninety-nine percent, or better, but your right the element of doubt is solidly planted there now and anything I would say, anything they would say, someone would say "Yeh, sure," so they say, "because we knew the Earth changes would be so dramatic and this object would be so visible in the sky and the cover-up so obvious that, uhmm... you, its like, er, err... a momentary loss of credibility". They're saying that when this all sets unfold as they predicted they say "OH THEY WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG," just doing the dates thing, but "HERE IT IS" and they won't forget that what was said.



Lou:

I don't know. Wha, wha, what could you possibly say to the people that packed everything up Nancy and moved to another location, maybe didn't have money, and what not to do it, but they did it in some way because they possibly dis what the Zetas were saying? I mean what could you possibly say to a person like that because....?



Nancy:

I have constantly, constantly said this is your decision you make your decisions people say tell me what to do, I said we give you the information you are to evaluate it. The weatherman does this, you know geologists do this, they say, we're beginning to have tremors, we might have a big quake soon, whatever uhmm... every body does this, er, er... you know they have to evaluate the information they're given and make a decision on their own for their own life. We've always said this and so therefore they should be anyway evaluating, uhmmm.... and they made their own decision based on information. Certainly they should not have said "I BELIEVE IN THE ZETAS AND THEY COME FROM ABOVE," we're not asking for, we never did. The Zetas have never said "Listen to what we say and mindlessly follow," they said "think it though." So if they thought it through, they were looking at past geological changes, current geological changes, folklore, prophecy, whatever and making a decision like I did when I left a good paying job and, er.. left the lovely San Francisco Bay area and came to the mid west, where its humid in summer and cold in the winter and you can hardly get a job that pays above the, well, you know, minimum wage or twice that you're lucky, err... and its erm... you know, your out here with the cows. I did that because I personally took a look at all this evidence and I said I think its goin' to happen and I still do. I have, I have nothing but solid evidence along those lines.



Lou:

Humm.



Nancy:

I don't regret what I've done in other words and I don't blame anybody. I, I take responsibility for what I've done.



Lou:

Awhh I mean that's fine, but you know, there's still the fact remains, ther, there's now a percentage of people that when you say something about the Zetas they're either going to think twice or....



Nancy:

Sure, sure....



Lou:

....they're not even going to think about it at all.



Nancy:

......look at the flip side, er... Lou, err.. you know, they, they know about Zetatalk, they know what the message was, right? Now what happens if rotation slows tomorrow and stops on Sunday? What are those people goin' do say "GEE I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THIS HAPPENED?" They're goin to say, " GASP, ZETATALK WAS RIGHT," and take the steps they were planning taking anyway. You know...



Lou:

Well yeh,



Nancy:

...I'm trying to say....



Lou:

but that's a big what if, you now, we, something, something this, I mean think about it. Something this dramatic, something this big, I'm pretty sure that we would have to be able to see it by now. You know....



Nancy:

Well I've seen it....



Lou:

Things are, science is not that hard to understand, I mean things have a reaction that's fine, OK, the Sun has, you know been goin' through flares and all that other stuff, but at the same time something of this magnitude to stop the, the rotation of the Earth.....



Nancy:

Yes....



Lou:

....you better well say it, I mean the rotation of the Earth didn't stop because of the dinosaurs, you know when the dinosaurs got hit with that meteorite.



Nancy:

Yea Lou, this is not about size, the things is only four times as big as Earth it's because its a big magnet.



Lou:

Yea....



Nancy:

Don't you set two magnets on a table and move the big one past the little one and see the little one go nuts?



Lou:

Yea, but we're talking about planetary objects here, we're not talking about magnets.



Nancy:

Yea, but we're magnets. We have a magnetic field, so does this guy.



Lou:

Yea, but , I mean but think about it for a second, if it was, if it was that sensitive, I mean the Moon would be, be thrown out of orbit, with all the different things that we've gone through the centuries. Don't you think



Nancy:

The Moon is not magnetic. It's, it's gravity hugging the Earth but its not a magnet. It does not have a liquid core.



Lou:

Well.... some would disagree with that.



Nancy:

Well.... it's, its true that human astrophysics and human science, uhmm... even though everybody like to say we've got this down pat, we've put some probes up and we the space station up therefore we're all powerful and all knowing and we're right. Well that's a step away from the Earth is flat. That's, that's not true human, uhmmm...



Lou:

Well there's still people who actually....



Nancy:

.challenges are always saying, whoops now we know, and, and they can't even get all their maths together on the same page, Einstein and Newton for instance can't be put on the same page. You can't put Newton in the inverse square law of, of gravity on the same page in regard to the Moon and people will admit that if they're honest, so uhmm... man's knowledge of how the universe works is sketchy at best and limited to what he's already observed.



Lou:

Well, (Cough) at the same time though, I mean there's people out there that still believe the world is flat. Flat Earth Society.



Nancy:

Yea...



Lou:

Yea.



Nancy:

Yea they do.



Lou:

So different strokes for different folks...



Nancy:

Loath to change, right.



Lou:

So, I mean, I don't know, I mean, it, it, at this particular...



Nancy:

I personally don't feel we have misled people in regards to, ahhh... arrange your camping trip to May 15th or arrange your camping trip for the week of the 20th, uhmm.. that's unfortunate but when you think of the tens of millions of people in cities who haven't even heard this message, who, who don't have web access who don't sit up late and listen to the radio or whatever they have not heard this and they're going to be trapped and harmed, all those little children in arms and all the parents of those little children, my heart goes out to them and I feel that the greater damage would have been done, uhmm.. had we given an exacting date and allowed Homeland security to do what they obviously intended to do.



Lou:

What was your first reaction with this?



Nancy:

I went for a long hike, ha. I went hiking some place it was going to take me several hours to get back and I was going to be in a state of exhaustion and then I sat in the basement for a while, ha, ha, ha, and by that time I understood what had happened and why. And then I finally got an e-mail, I was off e-mail for several day's, you know, most of the week. Then I had my set answer and I just did as they said, bla date and what about I did a copy-paste-send, ho, ho, ho, to I don't know thousands of e-mails. That was my reaction. You know, what else could I do?



Lou:

Well, ea, em, ha.....



Nancy:

And then it got to be the 26th.....



Lou:

Right.



Nancy:

and this is how I knew there was going to be global quakes, It was, it was the, err, uhmm.. the middle of the night on the 25th, well I just said the wee hours on the morning of the 26th and I woke up at 2 o'clock in the morning feeling, thinking someone was running a jackhammer somewhere, I felt, it was not shaking the pictures on the wall or rattling the dishes in the cupboard but it was a bub, bub, bub, it felt like. I thought what is that, so I went down and checked the live siesmos and found we had, uhmm... earthquakes at that time and the next night I had the same thing that's why I captured uhmm.. May 26th, cause I physically felt that in the middle of this big earthquake displayed here in Wisconsin. So when I was watching that unfold I realised that something indeed was right around the corner.



Lou:

I don't know Nancy, ha, ha, ha, I don't know dear, I would have been really ****ed off, you know. I would have told the Zetas to go fly a kite.



Nancy:

But you know, it, it, I can see, I can see the rational I can see what they did and I have to tell you Lou, I honestly believe it was going to happen on the 20th, oh, the rotation stoppage, I really did or I could not have relayed that message in all seriousness, the government has remote viewers and they can pick up what's in a humans head, so if I believed this was, like ahh.. false state floated they would have picked that up. So I actually had to believe it and I did and I was like, I was out running around measuring the Sunset and said "well it seems to me," you know, and, and the sunrise and sunset they're a little goofy these days it seems to be rising and setting too far north, many many people have commented about that, but, uhmmm... it can be a little confusing, but I was really thinking we was really going to have it happen. I went out shopping, bought lots of toilet paper, this kind of thing, yea.



Lou:

Do you rack your credit card bills up or what?



Nancy:

I did that long ago.



Lou:

Ha, ha , ha.



Nancy:

I have no credit, no savings.



Lou:

Did you see the lawsuit people are putting against you now?



Nancy:

Well, I'm afraid if I had control of them, you know like if they gave me their money to invest, something like that, you know, but I, that's, that's just patently silly. Wouldn't get anything anyway (laughing,) I never made, you know I'm completely broke, and I'm almost ten thousand dollars in debt over even getting the book published, which I'll never see that money back, err.... and, and that's one but the second is, just because somebody says something's going to happen if you run off and adjust your life because of it you're an adult, you know, I mean if the weatherman says he thinks there's going to be a hurricane coming and, and you quickly sell your house and rush off to some place, and it doesn't happen, you don't sue the weatherman....



Lou:

Yea, but yea that's different Nancy, that's a little bit different that the weatherman. The weatherman doesn't come on every night and say yea know there's this big hurricane comin' with three hundred mile per hour winds and keep doin' it over and over again sayin' he's getting the information from aliens.



Nancy:

Well, you know, if you go into a court and say to a judge this woman who talks to aliens said these things and phenomenal as it seems and NASA always denied it and everybody always denied it and called her nuts, ahh... but I believed it and I err.. you know, ahhhhh.... went off and dug a hole in a hill somewhere and sat there and it didn't happen so I'm suing her for everything she has, you'd get laughed out of court,



Lou:

Yea, but, but you never know in these days cause' people can sue over hot spilled coffee at er.. Mac Donald's or Dunkin Donuts.



Nancy:

I think you have to have some sort of control over the persons life and if you just give information out and someone chooses to believe it, uhmmm... then that's different, they are making a choice as to what they believe.



Lou:

Well, er.. I don't know. I er... I would have a hard time with this particular point with believing anything the Zetas said. I mean, don't you, don't you, don't you in the back of your mind Nancy, come on?



Nancy:

No, not at all, no, no, no.



Lou:

You really don't.



Nancy:

I'll tell you, I actually Lou, I do not and, and we're, think its comin' on, we're very close and I see physical evidence of that , but what we are saying to people is do what you should be doing all along and what we have advised you to do all along, LOOK, THINK, WATCH. You know North Carolina had four dams break in two days, ahhh.. and, and we've had uhmm... France have a gas line explosion, but four dams in two days, and I've heard from people who live in North Carolina and they say we have to tell you, rain did not do this and this is the type of thing that is not addressed. you know, uh... we, we're having odd er... physical experiences, you know stretching uhmm... and reactions in the Earth and its just going get started the increase. We've warned people, they've had the message when it happens they'll be armed with a sequence of events that they're not going to get from their government. They will not get this from their government and for that I have no regrets.



Lou:

OK, but think about this for a second, you, you've done your job, right, you've warned the people, you can only warn them so much, the Zetas talked, they lied, I mean isn't it time we just stepped back from the podium and let people decide on their own. Who, who really cares what, you know?



Nancy:

Can we have Mount Wilson point at the sunrise, really point at it like "Misty" did and take a real live cam. They won't do it. Now why aren't the doing that Lou?



Lou:

But who cares?



Nancy:

What is the harm, she, she photographed, I mean she imaged from their "web cam" in a series, its just stunning, here it comes, up, and here comes the Sun and they're absolutely distinct there's no way that's a reflection of the Sun, like a "sun dog," there's no way that's a reflection of the Moon, it cannot... and, and they, their reaction to that was, point that at Pasadena, you know, and city lights, turn it off and say the government asked them to turn it off for National Security reasons, claim that big round thing is the Moon, when you can see the Moon hanging under it, a tiny little crescent, crescent its like your tip of your finger nail can't make a big round glowing orb like that, it looks like.. she thought it was the Sun. And then to point it at the sunrise inserting blanks, at certain times and trying to use old sunrise pictures and then deciding just to turn it at an angle where you can't see the area of the sky where this thing rose. Now this is all documented on my web sit. Now why are they doing that Lou if nothing is THERE?



Lou:

Well, it's the same reason why the Vatican doesn't release, you know, what's inside of those eighteen miles worth of tunnels they have there....



Nancy:

Yea why they're over there in Tucson Arizona peeking towards the southern sky.



Lou:

Well yea, but that, that's their own interests.



Nancy:

You really think that the fourth Fatima secret was ehmm.. the assassination of a Pope? Like we would care? I mean that....



Lou:

I don't think, I think that...



Nancy:

....that's not the biggy that made all those children faint.



Lou:

....I think the Roman Catholic Church has a lot more to deal with than, than a Planet X. Don't you think?



Nancy:

Yes, yes I would agree.



Lou:

You know, I, I mean we're, its.. I don't know, I mean, if this was me, Nancy I mean honestly, I mean, after what, how longs it been? Eight years?



Nancy:

Since 1995, yea, I know what you're going to say....



Lou:

Oh... I mean...



Nancy:

...throw it on the garbage pail, right? Can I ask you this Lou? If rotation stopped Sunday ehmm... and if, if the sun was standing at the nine o'clock or ten o'clock position day after day, what would you say to yourself?



Lou:

I'm going... to tell...



Nancy:

Be honest now, what would you say



Lou:

....I'm probably going to die, Nancy was right....



Nancy:

There you go.



Lou:

....but you can say that about anything on this planet that you, er.. you can come up with.



Nancy:

That right and wouldn't you say to your neighbour "grab the kiddies and run for the hills," because here's what's going to happen and bla.. blaa and don't be in buildings that might fall on you. You would know exactly what to expect....



Lou:

Right, but, but, Nancy....



Nancy:

....the sequence of events and what to do to save yourself and protect yourself, what to guard against.



Lou:

That's all fine and dandy, but the problem is Nancy now that the, the Zetas have lied don't you think that people are going to more apt now to really come after you if you're wrong again?



Nancy:

You think this was about making Nancy comfortable ever, ever? I have no money, you know, I'm, I've been, ahh... a target like you would not believe since 1995, you know, and, and ah.. in way's that I couldn't even describe her on the air. So do you think the fact that people might roar toward me and do their damnest is bothering me. I know that I'm getting an important message out, and I have great confidence that this is still coming because I'm looking at the quake statistics, I'm looking at the photographs, I'm looking at the Earth changes and I'm watching the way the government reacted and I have no change of opinion. I know I was used to put a false statement out there, I understand the reason and I agree with it. So am I worried that Nancy's going to be beat-up. Nancy has been beat-up. Nancy is nothing but a punching bag, never has been anything but that by the general public.



Lou:

Well I must say you have a you have a pretty big following Nancy, you know that, that....



Nancy:

It, it's, it's rooted in facts and uhmm, you know er.. I got on, er...



Lou:

But see there's always the other side of the coin too.



Nancy:

Yea, but you know, er.. Lou the other side of the coin is people who say "they said and therefore we should believe," and, and we have never asked people to blindly follow. That has never been the message. I don't care what people say, they tried to say we're a cult, but a cult requires people to blindly follow that has never been what Zetatalk has said. If you actually read it, it constantly said rely on yourself, use your own, you know, capacity to think, come to your own decisions and we've always allowed a great deal of argument and discussions, pros and cons to go on, encouraged it, the whole Troubled Time mailing list group is one, where people give out this, where maybe its just nothing and its all wet, and maybe this other guy over here, what about this, that's been encouraged because we're asking people to think. If you look at the "sighting" pages, where we ah.. team of people and, and making these images since the fall of 2002, on CCD images, you know, first its a dot, then its a tail haze, and then here are it looks like asteroids, but no there's a moon, that type of thing we deliberately put out our arguments among the sighting tem, no ahmm.. no I think its this, but that couldn't be and, and, we, we put these discussions on the web to show people that among our own team we argue and , and allow dissention and this is to encourage people to jump in and do the same but don't buy a dictate, were asking people to take control of their life and think and look, always have.



Lou:

Well....



Nancy:

He, he, he, he.



Lou:

....you haven't convinced me Nancy...



Nancy:

You know Lou....



Lou:

In all honesty....



Nancy:

....if we go months and months here and nothing happens you've got a right to throw tomatoes at me....



Lou:

Ha, ha, ha...



Nancy:

....but, but tell me that Mount Wilson isn't doing something funky here, you know, ever since, you know, she, she comes up with these pictures on the 26th and 27th and they say its a reflection of the Moon which can hardly be seen as a crescent and then refuse to point the "web cam," I was on K Rock Monday morning, LA's FM station, morning station, and I said to the people "Hey... go and ask Mount Wilson why they won't point at the sunrise?" you know, and go and sit up there next to their "web cam" if they refuse to do it and see for yourself, take your own pictures, but challenge them, if there's not a cover-up. Well they tried, tried taking it off-line and, and they tried to say, and, and now they figured out that they just point at the sunrise but they, but they exclude that part of the sky, well they're gaming around here, you know, they, they're trying to say er.. they are doing it, but they're not. So you can't deal with public pressure, you know, they won't ah.. they won't point it where the whole world can see there's something there and as big as your ***, and up it comes and it looks like the Sun and she thought it was the Sun.



[Silent pause]



Nancy:

I hope I didn't say the wrong word on live radio, here?



Lou:

No.



Nancy:

It was big. You got to see this. Go look.



Lou:

Well you can say ***.



Nancy:

Ok good.



Lou:

That's fine, you know.



Nancy:

Alright thanks



Lou:

Like, I hope your not blowing smoke up people's ***, you know, ha, ha, ha.



Nancy:

He, he, that's true, people say that.



Lou:

Well, look Nancy, you know, this, this is something that a lot of people, you know, believe with what you were saying and what the Zetas were saying, although the one thing, and I've said it many times before, that, you know, just really.. I can't understand is why people.. or why can't give people some kind of evidence that these Zetas are real.



Nancy:

Oh, I have something ermm... there was something that, not that I took it, but recently there... and some guy actually took erm... a video of it and I think we have more than one of the Sun, there's a, a brown er.. round circle in the middle of the Sun, or a series of them in a line, in front of the Sun and people have commented about this, they've seen it, they've taken pictures and I actually have a picture on my website of erm.. something I got from another website, anyway what can that be if its not on the SOHO, its not a piece of dirt on the lens, its a MOTHERSHIP. And I'm, I'm saying to you that if people want evidence that aliens exist its all around you. You can go look at crop circles and people say "Hey there two guys with boards, " give me a break, those, that grain is bent at a 90 degree angle, not broken, bent and continues to grow, you, you, you take a bunch a guys with boards and have them smash around in a grain field and that grain is not growing any longer. man does not know how to do this to grain, and when they talk about this in the news and, and they say Oh, its fake, and here's two guys with boards and they've been running around all over the Earth making all these beautiful, breathtaking geometrical that appear within seconds, yea sure, uhmm.. nobody ever addresses the fact that the grain is not broken, but continues to grow and more rapidly than the other grain, as though a growth hormone was used to cause the 90 degree change. Well you grow something on the side of the stem it will bend over at a 90 degree angle, not break uhmm.. and be stimulated from this growth hormone. That's what I think they're doing. Now if that isn't proof that aliens exist, I don't know what is.



Lou:

How, how about the simple fact you could prove a test to the people... Do something...



Nancy:

Well, your saying we should have a bunch of space ships land.....



Lou:

No, no....



Nancy:

....saying Planet X is coming....



Lou:

....no, no, I'm not saying that....



Nancy:

....spelling out the words.



Lou:

What I'm saying is... if indeed these are aliens don't you think the people that are, don't you think you owe it to the people to tell the al.. the Zetas, to demand the Zetas to give you some kind of conclusive evidence, you know, throw out all, all these, all the prophecies and all the, the, give em' something. Some kind of technology, some kind of equation, whatever. People don't want to hear that they can't use zero's and ones and all that other cause' if they're intelligent enough to deal with what they're doing they're intelligent enough to translate. People need that.



Nancy:

Yea, but you know what, you know what you're describing Lou, if, if you erm... put on your listening cap and listen back to what you just said. Your saying. uhmm... I'm a child and I want to be, uhmm.. absolutely sure that my parents are there and be told what to believe....



Lou:

Thats not what, that's not what I'm saying....



Nancy:

...that's not what this world is about....



Lou:

That's not what I'm saying....



Nancy:

....we are taking people, I mean the, the "powers that be" are expecting people to mature spiritually, figure things out on their own and learn how to help each other, you don't get this by giving solid proof and you don't get this by er.. being told what to do and what to believe, you sort it out yourself....



Lou:

No...



Nancy:

...there's a second reason....



Lou:

No, no....



Nancy:

....that's not done and that is...



Lou:

That's a cop-out, Nancy....



Nancy:

....people attack the messenger....



Lou:

Nancy, Nancy....



Nancy:

....and they ahh... someone came forward and said "here is is I have this absolute mathematical thing, uhmm.....



Lou:

....Nancy....



Nancy:

.....look at how much resistance is given to the ahhm... Zetatalk message, and they, they attacks rises and the denial rises and the brick wall rises in proportion to the threat that's presented. Some times a muted message better received than one that's irrefutable.



Lou:

Not in, Nancy, not in this situation, dear. In this situation many people are going to view this as psycho-babble, psychic's do it all the time. "Well the spirit, you know, are not allowed to do that in the spirit world". They do it all the time. People who contact aliens, not necessarily, or they channel aliens or "Well they can't do it because, you know, they, they're not allowed to, to err.. to, to decipher codes its against their laws." Well if its against their laws it should be against their laws to contact humans and interfere what so ever, because as far as I'm concerned, and I'm sure you would agree with this Nancy, this is interfering in a big way, wouldn't you say?



Nancy:

Yea but, but err... it, it's true it's not a cut and dried rule and its also based people wanting to uhmm... asking for this information in the first place. If people don't reach out and ask er.. it doesn't happen, but, but they do, they want, they want information, they want more uhmm... err... access to information and they get it and that's what contactee's er.. in, in essence are receiving, but, but Lou I got to say to you Zetatalk would never have gained the popularity it did if it was psycho-babble. It has always referred to, and given predictions about things that were going to come, like the current weather err.. and the like and said this is what's around the corner, now I've never spammed e-mail, I've never gone out and solicited people, I never said "oh please link to me, put me on your radio show." You know this has never happened. In fact you've got to admit I've never called you guys and say "Hey I've got to get on." I get invited to come...



Lou:

Sure... that's, that's exactly true.



Nancy:

....and, and that's true of all other radio stations I've ever been on. I do not call up and say put me on. So uhmm.. this is not because its psycho-babble, because there's all kinds of people like that out there who say "I'M IN TOUCH WITH THE WHATEVER" and here's the message and it, its ah... they get no where. (Cough) or they beg for it and they, and they, they ahh... sometimes they pay for it, but, but they don't get the kind of attention I get which comes to my door and has me in a state of exhaustion all the time here, because there's a ring of truth to it and it relates to facts and, and the predictions uhmm... roll out as predicted with the exception of that those dates, yes.



Lou:

Ok, when we come back I'm just going to, just going to talk to you about what the psychics do and how a lot of the psychics are proven and how people follow these psychics. Just, I'm just going to give you an example. All right we'll be back with the Lou Gentile show, with Nancy Lieder right after this....



[Break for commercials]

Nancy must feel like those coal-shovelers in the engine room of the Titanic.. AFTER it hit the iceberg. "We're going down .. but keep shoveling!"

Jeez, she's barely intelligible.
But I think this radio guy is worthless. How many softballs can you throw at a nutter? Nowhere was there a truly hard question, and nowhere was Nancy pursued about much of anything. I don't know what else that DJ does, but it sure ain't journalism.
Nancy is spiralling out of touch. Her precious date came and went. Now she has to backpedal like crazy (fittingly) to come up with excuses. Of course it was the government covering it all up. And oh yeah, was anyone locked in their homes under martial law last month?! Amazingly, they let me roam free- how 'bout you?
Actually, I think the BA has a potential money maker on his hands.
Nancy has so far lived up to EXACTLY the predictions made on this BBS as to what she'll do when PX DOESN'T appear.
Hey BA, change the name to Bad Astronomy Phychic Network and you can honestly claim a 100% correct prediction rate!!!!! Just .99 for the first minute.......

I'm glad they find this amusing. Too bad they didn't mention the dead pets--that would be good for some real chuckles!

(edited to add "didn't" which I left out the 1st time!)

Disgusting!

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Her excuse for the flubbed date has something to do with Operations Topoff and Winter Sun?

Operation Topoff was in May 2000.

Operation Winter Sun was in May 2003.

Neither of these would seem to be applicable. Topoff may have involved 100 agencies and possibly "Canada", but it was three years ago; Winter Sun took place in May 2003 but involved only 17 agencies, and apparently "Canada" was not represented on the pier.

Level Red security most emphatically does not "allow them to tell you to stay in your homes and not to leave".

Absolutely nothing in there about restricting citizens' movements to their own homes. Not even "Certainly stay in your cities and not leave..."

She's just making it up out of whole cloth, no surprise there.

Again, neither Level Orange nor Level Red "imposes martial law". Martial law is something completely different from Homeland Security.

A discussion of martial law.

The President and/or Congress can impose it, but not just because they happen to feel like it, which is what Nancy is implying--she seems to think, along with all the other "Red Alert Equals Martial Law!" conspiracy theorists on the Internet, that the "Federal Government" can just impose martial law whenever they want, without having to have a justification for it, even a flimsy one like, "Planet X is about to hit the earth!" And I haven't seen any announcements from the Feds re that.

Yes, they did. They had
information that Al Qaeda might try something, so they bumped it up. It had nothing to do with vague references to "some bombings".

Wow. This woman has an ego the size of Boulder Dam.

And it's hilarious the way she talks about somebody, what, stealing her "Domain Name Server" or something?

Barking mad. Absolutely.

Nancy owes me a new keyboard, as I have just splorted tuna sandwich all over mine...

Er, which it didn't...

Barking mad.

I already said that, didn't I?

I can't find a mention of an earthquake in Wisconsin on May 26, 2003. Let alone a "big" earthquake.

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/

On May 26 there was a 4.3 in Central Alaska and a 3.7 in Central California and a 3.8 in Northern California, and on the 25th there was a 4.5 in Central Alaska and a 4.4 in South Dakota and a 4.3 in Northern California and a 3.6 in Central Alaska. I dunno whether Nancy was sensitive enough to have felt any of these, but a "big" earthquake seems to have passed beneath the notice of the Milwaukee news outlets. Oh, wait, that's part of the conspiracy to get rid of all the unwanted citizens with lousy teeth and bad backs...

Oy vey. Have I mentioned that she's barking mad?

I mean, we're into "serious raving loony" here, folks...

Um, slight differences here, Nancy. First of all, when the weatherman announces that there's a hurricane coming, you don't sell your house--you merely evacuate to a different part of the state, further inland. Second, you don't sue the weatherman for being wrong--because he wasn't wrong. He was right about the the hurricane, because he has, like, "proof" of it, in the form of satellite imagery. So you don't sue him because he was wrong, because he wasn't wrong. Even if it turns out that you didn't really need to spend three days in a motel in Atlanta, still, a hurricane of *some* sort did turn up.

Um, yes, it did. After days of heavy rains, two very small earthen dams at a subdivision couldn't hold all the water they were expected to, so they breached. A third earthen dam at Lake Upchurch also couldn't hold all the water it was expected to, so it breached. And the Hope Mills dam breached after a floodgate got stuck and the pressure built up.

You mean there's MORE??

It's almost enough to make one ask, Can somebody be forced to accept anti-paranoia medication when their obvious paranoia has been allowed to run rampant to the point of seriously affecting other people's lives?

This woman needs help, desperately. Of course, I don't for a single moment expect her to accept it. But allowing her to run amok like this is not good for a lot of other people who might only be borderline without her hyper-paranoid rantings to push them over the edge.

And yes, I'm very well aware that forcing her to take the medication would go a long way toward supporting charges of a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that is Out To Get Nancy Leider. :-?

The (but some people need to be protected from people like her) Curtmudgeon

This has to be the saddest stuff I have read in a very long time. It is different in telling people it is going to rain tomorrow and that you need to go to a safe place, kill your pets and stock up on food and equipment.

Nancy is in a sinking ship....and it it almost under water.

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It was much more painfull to listen to.

It *was* painful to read. All I can say is, for someone that's supposedly channeling an advanced alien intelligence, neither she nor they understand how URL's or DNS's work. I, too, hear a lot of "moaning and groaning" but it's not coming from Austrailia or the Earth; it seems to be coming from Zetatalk.

Psi-less

I loved that bit. Just as she was in the throes of working a full-blown conspiracy theory about her website being zapped, Lou Gentile points out that he's got it right there on his screen. And Nancy's like - oh, um ah, yeah, well that's good news... I listened to the entire 2-hour archive in horrified fascination, I must admit. I think that may make me a sad person. Must get out more.

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Nancy:

Well, you know, if you go into a court and say to a judge this woman who talks to aliens said these things and phenomenal as it seems and NASA always denied it and everybody always denied it and called her nuts, ahh... but I believed it and I err.. you know, ahhhhh.... went off and dug a hole in a hill somewhere and sat there and it didn't happen so I'm suing her for everything she has, you'd get laughed out of court



Nancy wants it both ways--she says she is channeling the Zetas to help her fellow man but also says that she is lawsuit-proof because she is a fruitcake and the suit would be thrown out because of the source. She just
wants power over people--

She's already got the Kool-Aid mixed in a large vat, and is just waiting to fill the glasses.

I meant to get this up earlier, but I got an acute attack of Alzheimer's

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Part two Lou Gentile show 6th June, 2003


Nancy:

Yep. I'm here hi...


Lou:

(Coughing) excuse me.


Nancy:

I had a strong cup of black coffee during the break...


Lou:

Oh yea.


Nancy:

...so I can go the second hour, normally I, I'm in bed at this time so I probably sound a little livelier. It's black, black coffee, does it every time.



Lou:

Ahh, uhh it works...



Nancy:

Yep.



Lou:

Now what I was saying to you earlier about the psychics, you know, when you have a psychic and you test a psychic to see what the deal is, if these people have any kind of credibility, if they even have a gift or what not...



Nancy:

Yes.



Lou:

....an example would be, you know, you've many psychics that claim different things, cause anybody can walk into a house and say they feel this and they feel that, but when you have somebody who walks into a house and basically leads you to a place where the spirit is taking you goes, say into an attic and, and finds a chest with a hidden drawer in it, and finds the will that this person er, you know was supposed to have because the mother didn't er.. didn't find it or whatever was, or the mother didn't erm.. leave it out, she hid it, you know and forgot to give it to them when they, forgot to leave it out and she died, or what not, and that's what they were going up there for, that, that's kind of an example of what I'm talking about....



Nancy:

Yea.



Lou:

....you follow me? I mean....



Nancy:

Yea I do.



Lou:

....people, I mean people need something like that. I mean don't you really think, I mean, you know, we're talking about channelling aliens, we're talking about channelling extraterrestrials from either another dimension, or another planet, or what not, and you know these things are, you know for people in order to believe that you're channelling aliens or what not, they, they need some kind of proof.



Nancy:

Yea... now there's two things here Lou, one is that it is never been or goal hammer people to the wall and say your utterly convinced that ahh.. there is aliens and they're speaking through Nancy, that's never been the goal. As a matter of fact you can even say maybe Nancy's not talking to Zetas at all, but she's a, a funny government source of information for a message the government itself could not relay. Think about it. If the US government came out and said that "OHARGHH THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THIS THING IS GOING TO CAUSE A HORRENDOUS POLE SHIFT BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE," what are people going to do say oh who's going to insure me, should I pay my mortgage, what about quitting my job, what about my social security, what about... and it becomes such a boggled mess that it would be a message they couldn't give. Now theoretically if it could be possible for the government to set up something and say we're going to have this whacky lady, you know, lives out in cow country say's she talking to aliens and give her enough information that she sounds credible and that's the way we're going to get the message out. So, it has never been our goal to say you have to believe its aliens, you have to believe, or you have to believe. We have always said think for yourself. Looking for proof, the kind of thing you're describing is a one on one. You've got a family, you've got a will up in the attic and somebody says I'll lead you to it, what we have done, during Zetatalk is point to things that are broadly international, widely of, erm... app, appropriate, err, err.. applicable. Weather, in 1995 the Zetatalk was the only source, to my knowledge, I know of none other that absolutely described what was going to happen to our weather over the last seven years, the way it has unfolded. And there's many examples of that, where they've done that. So, this is something that people can point to and say Man, look how they predicted the weather. This is something everybody in the world can relate too, not local. The problem with answering some question from some caller, or somebody who's posted on your IRC and say's "TELL ME MY LONG ER.. DEAD UNCLE GORGE'S MIDDLE NAME," is that person, I, we might get it right and that person would say oh wrong, and how you going to prove otherwise. You know what I'm saying Lou?



Lou:

Well, let me, let me ask you this question, are the Zetas willing to talk tonight?



Nancy:

Oh yea. If your willing to listen their willing to talk.



Lou:

I'm willing to listen, I'm going to ask maybe a couple of questions is that all right?



Nancy:

Absolutely.



Lou:

Yea go ahead. Do your thing.



Nancy:

Oh, well, you have to ask something, what you wanted them to add-hock it?



Lou:

Well no, I mean introduce me or something. I don't know, ha, ha, ha, how did we do this before. You've been on so many times...



Nancy:

What we do is, they're supposed, they're supposed to be answering your call. That's what they can do here, they're not supposed to like, take the initiative, they're supposed to wait until they get a request from a human, you have to request. What's your request?



Lou:

All right my request is what are the Zetas err.. explanation of the latest erm... lies that they told the public about Planet X coming, on that date.



Nancy:

OK... That's already given however I will let them speak on the air so people don't try to bang into the website and read for themselves and bring down the server and they say erm... as we have explained, this was a deliberate white lie ahh.. to demonstrate in a way that words could not uhhh.. the intentions of the establishment and the major powers, this includes Russia, Japan, Britain ahh.. France, Germany, the US, uhhh.. and uhh.. some of the ahh.. allies that have gathered round them like Australia, ahh... where they area tight "click." France very restless ermm... it to be included, but aware of the alien presence, are aware of Planet X that is inbound, err.. have satellites, observatories access to er.. Hubble images and the like erm.. and are supposed to stay united front. Why do you think there was a meeting of all those counties in France recently, to talk about Iraq? Nonsense they talked about Iraq till they were horse before ahh.. the US and Britain went to war there, ahhh..

there was nothing to discuss. It's clear the Us and Britain are going to do as they choose, install whom them choose, are in charge of the oil fields and would listen to umm, ahhh... no ahh... no word from the UN, for instance. So why get together and give everybody a hug and for photo opportunities? They were discussing the fact that Planet X has suddenly risen to the ecliptic, ahh... was not expected by their human astrophysicists, but was predicted by us and what to say, when to say it and that everybody should keep their mouths firmly taped shut until that time. Now why did we give the white lie out? Err.. and this was planned you will note from the beginning of Zetatalk. May 15th shortly there after May 15th computes to when the planet became visible by the unaided eye. That proved to be ahh.. late March or the first week of April. We said seven weeks. Seven point three weeks to be exact and this ticks along nicely to shortly thereafter may 15th, It was all laid out as a false date so, and ahh... Zetatalk accuracy, likewise laid out as a fa... to, to demonstrate, uhmm... a pride in our accuracy so that we would be believed in our dates. The US government mustered forth and literally gutted themselves, uhmm... in front of the public with operation TOPOFF and these other exercises that week going into the 15th and they likewise accelerated this when they got more specific information on your show Lou, on the evening of the 16th. This was to show the public what these establishments would do. Now take the flip side. We don't give anything but the valid date uhmm... and uhhh... and, and public is, or we say perhaps "don't trust the government, don't trust them cause they're not telling you, they're not warning you, there's not enough food to feed everybody. They wish to scalp their survivors to those of their choosing. They wish to trap you and prevent you from traveling." People would listen to those words and they would go in one ear and out the other and they would not heed them. What we have done is cause the establishment to demonstrate by their actions that what we are saying is true and this could be done in no other way and thus we uhmmm... used you Lou, and we used our emissary Nancy and we are sure she forgives us and understands the greater uhmm.. reasons for this and we know in time you will too. And this is the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

OoohhK, do I get to ask more questions?



Nancy:

Yep I sure am.



Lou:

Oh, OK... Erm.. My , my next question would be how do the, how do you guys, you Zetas get the current world information and how do you know about current events, time here and things of that nature?



Nancy:

OK, Zetatalk say's.. ((Clearing throat) someone's thinking it. Uhmm.. other than our own observations, which are uhm.. immensely uhmm... err... immense in scope er.. and er.. coverage beyond what your human meteorologists for instance measure or geologists, ohh.. we are, are aware of what's going on in people's heads. We know what is planned, we know maneuvers that are planned long before they are announced in the news or executed err.. this is uhmm.. one way we can ensure that Nancy is not assassinated despite a, ahh... literally thousands of attempts that have been mustered forth and planned uhhh... someone thinks it we know it, we counter it and we hurt that person who put the plan in motion so that... in a way that they understand, err.. the perfect harmony is going to operate here and it stops it. So we have not only our own physical evidence, but we have our telepathic evidence of what people in societies are planning and this is the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

That still didn't answer my question Mt, er.. Zetas,



Nancy:

Oh..



Lou:

My question was how do you get world events not the weather and things of that nature. How do you keep abreast of world events, what technology do you use?



Nancy,

Er... If you're talking about, this is Zetatalk, if you're talking about world events, such as earthquakes, weather, uhhh... we have measurements uhhh....



Lou:

No, no, no, wait, wait wait.



Nancy:

....that, that er.. may not be seismograph stuck in the ground...



Lou:

Not weather events...



Nancy:

....it may not be little, uhmm.. wind tunnels, measuring er... the direction of wind or uhhh... er... something measuring er.. the humidity, they are a thousand times more accurate. Oh... this is er... primitive er... man, man's measurements er.. even to examining the Earth from space or the composition of the atmosphere, we have all this and more. So world events, you mean, uhhh.. what's happening in the Congo, what's happening in the government, is there a coup planned, has a coup happened. We know this before, when its planned, er.. even before its executed where you do not, er.. we trust this addresses your question, end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

OK, and why Zetas do you choose not to give confirmation that you are in fact real and you are not from some spirit realm trying to trick Nancy, and why....



Nancy:

Err... this is Zetatalk...



Lou:

Why do you....



Nancy:

....this is a question that comes up endlessly. Man is er.. used to thinking and er... anticipating directives, directives from his church, his parents, his school mama, er.. his government, the policeman on the corner, ohhh... even a big brother, er.. and err... actually getting flack if he doesn't follow the directive, uhmm... and beyond that he expects that uhmm... er.. people who want to exert their authority by demonstrating something er.. you better, you better mind the police because notice the gun their packing. You better mind the government because er.. they, they can sue and take away your home and your business, er.. you better mind your school mama because she can slap your hands with a ruler and send you into the corner. They have a demonstration of what will happen if they don't. They anticipate this and here come the visitors from outer space. Are they, are they not the same. Oh my goodness expect you to erm... think for yourself and er... and, and not be directed to uhmmm... and, and to sort it all out but, awh.. er... this is a shock. Uhmm.. in, in fact the rules that we are under, ahhh... ahhh.... and, and, and you can look to the fact that you do not have mass landings and mass invasions as proof of this say, this is a freewill society, man is to grow out from his childish view of, of expecting others to care for him and to direct him to where his sorts it out for himself, ahh.. takes responsibility for his life and steps forward to help others. This is a long learning curve requiring many hundreds of rein, incarnations ohh.. and not a simple thing to grasp. It is certainly strange to most of the young spirits on Earth, ohh.. and er.. for us to, er.. demonstrate we have real plays into this expectation that we are going to be parents of those we would be demonstrating before and thus we are forbidden from doing this and even if we were not would be very reluctant to do because it is moving your spiritual growth in the wrong direction and this is the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

OK, the Zetas in one very short paragraph or less what is it like in your world?



Nancy:

This is Zetatalk, we don't have a single world we have many, Zeta Reticuli has, ermmm... a couple of hundred suns that can support life, although er.. we are really about 87 erm... planets that, that are highly productive in this regard uhmm.. and this, thus we have many different uhmm.. zeta life forms, uhmm... ahhh.. without exception, um, er.. our planet this is Zeta Reticulon are Service To Other homes this has been described on our website in the "Worlds Section" to what the Service To Other lifestyle is. Essentially you spend 50% of your time thinking of others and 50% of the time thinking of yourself . Uhmm... everybody initiates their own role, er.. wishes to assist others in, er.. in their mission, er... we confer intensely, telepathically. There are no secrets. This is a lifestyle that is very difficult for those who are not highly Service To Others to even comprehend er.. and if you have not made that orientation decision and you're more self focused you find it discomforting, uhmm... so we would suggest people read "Orientation" and "Worlds" to come to an understanding of what Service to Other lifestyle is and this is the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

(Clearing throat) OK Zetas how come you haven't been able to take a test to show us that you're really who you say you are? Why should we believe you?



Nancy:

Er.. and this is Zetatalk, it is not our intent to prove to you, obviously uhmmm... if, if aliens er... visit Earth its more than just ourselves there's some forty different lifestyles, 4o different groups, ahh... at least a thousand different life forms, amny of them which would be shocking, perhaps even repulsive to humans, er.. visiting Earth and assisting during this transformative time. Ohhh.. we have many humans that are giving the call and er... are responding to promptly and, and the soul, and the human body and the subconscious learns what is going on in the world, Uhmmm.... obviously we could dance in the sky to impress you or erm.. day to night or night to day, which has been done in the past, by the way, er.. in, in Canada and the like during ahh... ahh.. the early days, middle century, uhmm... after Roswell. So erm... this is possible uhmm.. but what effect would this have? Awe, we would create children with their mouths agate, saying "oh you're here to take care of us, you're here to direct us" Er.. we are trying to get you to grow up. You to say this is what I'm going to do to help my fellow humans. I'm going to step forward and take responsibility and worry about others, A display of our power and prow, and prowess, er.. technological ability would not do this. It would go in the other direction and create dependency and childish demands and this is the reason we don't do it and the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

Childish demands?



Nancy:

Yea, Oh, oh, you want to believe how many e-mail I get, ahhh... "Why don't they come and take care of me? Can I make arrangements for the lift? Where do I go to be safe and who's going to feed me? Where's the group forming?" you, you know, in other words this is everything but my common answer to this is, uhmmm... what are you going to do about your neighbors children when they're orphaned. Oh well who thinks about that? So they should be thinking about that. They should not be saying what about my sorry skin? They should say what am I going to do about to help my neighbors, what am I going to do about the fact that there's a mother with eight children down the block, and, and there's no way she can put all of them in her arms and dash for safety, who's going to help them....



Lou:

Oh, what they....



Nancy:

....these people who think about themselves invariably do not think about others.



Lou:

Yea, but the Zetas don't really sound like they really could care less about people.



Nancy:

They care very, they, they I can tell you, they do, they're living like the Peace Corp, they've come down here, they can't physically in their current bodies go back because their gravity is so much heavier. I've seen them jump 15ft on on top of a fallen tree, that was out on the west coast, ahhh... I mean I can't jump 6 inches, they jumped, ahhh... 15ft effortl, la, les, lesly and uhmm.... this is because the planet they come has a stronger gravity draw, so now they can't go back, just like if we have an astronaut that spends too much time in space, they can't come back to Earth their bones are too fragile etc. So why are they here? You think its so delightful? I mean here we are poisoning our planet, and, and, and planning to enslave each other, and, and waging war. We're not, we have a beautiful planet in the process or ruining, and ahhh... and, and this is not their lifestyle. So they're here like the Peace Corp mucking around in the swamp and you're saying how, er... there's no evidence that they care about us.



Lou:

OK, I. I have a question, for the, for the Zetas.....



Nancy:

OK.



Lou:

.....and I want them to... th.. this particular question I think they owe it to the people, so that the people aren't distraught and think that er... that their crazy.



Nancy:

All right.



Lou:

OK, and I think the Zetas should answer it as quickly as they possibly can without any....



Nancy:

The question is?



Lou:

....without any possible delay and if they are, because it sounds like they're very knowledgeable, sounds like their very intelligent, correct?



Nancy:

Are you still fishing for this proof that they exist, thing....



Lou:

I, Nancy....



Nancy:

....is that what you're aiming for?



Lou:

....these people want to say it. These people want to see the proof and I think this is a very easy test to see if these, if these are who they say are because they should rattle this right off.



Nancy:

OK.



Lou:

Because they're, they're quick to answer everything else.



Nancy:

OK.



Lou:

You know what I'm saying?



Nancy:

You just pose the question right, and I'm just supposed to answer? OK.



Lou:

No, no, no, I'm going to pose the question.



Nancy:

All right and the question is?



Lou:

The question is (clears throat) I need to know the answer to 789 times 456?



Nancy:

Oh... Ahh ... this is Zetatalk, our translator does not speak Greek she doesn't speak maths very well either, nor does she speak Russian, erm... Unfortunately, erm... he, he, he, you have asked her to translate maths and this would take a while for the concept to form in her mind. Ahhh... so aw.. and this has been repeatedly stated, ahhh... it's a trick. It's a trick, ahhh... that someone who is autistic could rattle off quickly, ahhh... but Nancy does not do that without an adding machine or sitting down and running it off on paper. Where we could give her the numbers she is not relating, in fact when we give Ra and the Dec of the X and Y of the sky where the inbound planet is coming from, err... she prepares herself , she looks at the graphic and since where has it been, where is it going, is the Ra increasing or decreasing, etc., uhmm.. she see's where it has been er.. what, what's anticipated and then and only then do we give her numbers she takes and she puts down, because it fits in the scheme, she has no scheme here and thus would, ahhh... not receive the numbers we would give her accurately and there you would be with the wrong answer. So if people are looking for proof we would suggest the go and look at the website where there are SOHO images on the 16th and 18th of May that show Planet X. This is not Nancy's photographs, they are photographs received from someplace else, this is your government's photographs, which are now coming nine hours later, hours late and poorly doctored when they do arrive. We would suggest you look at the June 3rd, or ahhmm... on the website where the documents for June 3rd there is a solar eclipse picture that shows Planet X right in front of the Sun, when someone took a picture of the solar eclipse that happened with the Moon passing in front of the Sun. Or uhmm... the sunrise, errr... in the same June 3rd uhmmm.. grouping of photographs from Australia which er.. show literally an object in front of the Sun. If you're looking for proof this has arrived in the year 2003 when we said it would, from the direction we said it would, at the rate we said it would, with the impact on the Earth, weather and increasing quakes, ahhh... and this has absolutely come about. Now this is a lot better than maths games we would suggest and this is the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

Jeees you guys could just give me a simple answer huh?



Nancy:

He, he, he....



Lou:

Man, I tell ya....



Nancy:

..... it's an honest answer Lou.



Lou:

.... ha, ha, ha, I'll tell ya, ahhhhhwww...



Nancy:

Have you looked at those pictures, Lou?



Lou:

No.



Nancy:

You oughta'.



Lou:

No, you know I don't buy it. I don't buy Planet X?



Nancy:

Why don't you look at the pictures?



Lou:

Because I dont, a, a, a.......



Nancy:

Why don't you look at the SOHO pictures?



Lou:

I just don't.



Nancy:

SOHO is a NASA, JPL I mean there it is the government. There's that satellite out there taking pictures of the Sun and THERE IT IS. THERE'S PLANET X.



Lou:

Well they're asking to go to pictures and what not, but they can't even answer a simple question. They got answers for everything else. That would worry....



Nancy:

You know.....



Lou:

That would worry really worry me.....



Nancy:

The maths thing doesn't prove anything. What if, what if I'm a whiz at maths and I just rattle it off you know....



Lou:

That....


Nancy:

...that doesn't prove anything.



Lou:

It would, it would....



Nancy:

.....it really doesn't....



Lou:

It would, it would be pretty credible though. It would get your credibility rating up a little bit, don't you think?



Nancy:

No I don't. I think, I think it would be a distraction because people would say errr... you know what they would say, Lou? I'll tell you what they'd say. They would say "Nancy and Lou got together and agreed that he would ask for this question and she would have the number right in front of her." That's the type of thing people say. They say its a huge fraud and anybody that gets close to Zetatalk and accuracy is accused of being part of the scam. That's how they talk.



Lou:

You got this covered on all bases don't you.



Nancy:

Ha, ha, ha...



Lou:

You really do.....



Nancy:

I tell you what goes on...



Lou:

You know what, Nan.. Nancy, ha, ha, ha....



Nancy:

Somebody wants to be called a Zeta drone or a, a con artist, or crazy all they have to do is say "I've read Zetatalk and I take it seriously, and I think there's something there," WHOOOM right away they, they're nuts or they're a drone or they're a dead head, really.



Lou:

Huhhhhh....



Nancy:

Liitle Missy when went up in LA and, and captured these web cam pictures she was just astonished and was called a "doctoring artist,." Somebody clearly superimposed, she said "Oh my Gosh. I have, have no idea what they're even talking about, much less have that skill." So, so ahhh.... that's what happens when people get too close to Zetatalk. They become accused of all manner of things and if I was to give out an accurate number you would be swept into that swamp, you just watch.



Lou:

All right, lets, let's er.. let's take some of these questions here. It, it, it's ju.. just about time. Ermmm.... cause I'm going to get you back on when my phone lines are on.



Nancy:

OK, sounds good.



Lou:

All right. So unfortunately I got to do this over IRC, kind of sucks, but...



Nancy:

I know.



Lou:

.....growing pains, anyway. All right so if you go into the chat room and send me your questions and errr... God save my soul, because there's already about forty of them here. Anyway if you go into the chat room its on EF Net, the channel number is Lou Gentile, l o u g e n t i l e I'm go to start right on off. Nancy if you can be as, as precise as er... as, you, as you with this information, with the answer to this, to this question. Tell the Zetas to chill out on the long, er... you know, the long explanations and what not. Cause I only got like er... seventeen and a half minutes, ha, ha, ha, all right?



Nancy:

(quiet snigger)



Lou:

All right here we go. Errr... Are you still going to trust the Zetas, from A, zero,two, ten?



Nancy:

Err... and my answer, I take it this is a Nancy question. Yes, I'm, and I have, nothing has changed. I understand what was done, and, and why it was done, uhhhh... and I agree that tens of millions of innocents, who live in cities like St Louis Missouri, or LA, or erm... Philadelphia deserve to have a chance to escape to a safe location. Someone else should not have the right to say you're going to die and you're going to live. Uhmmm... they don't have the right to make that decision, that is in the hands of God to make and the individuals who themselves make a decision about their life and so I understand why they did what they did and I see physical evidence that, the, ahhh... planet is among us, is coming up between the Earth and the Sun, is visible and in front of the Sun now and, and errr... and I personally am, am braced for the rotation stoppage and the pole shift. I don't know the date uhmmm...



Lou:

Nancy....



Nancy:

..... and, and nothing has changed.



Lou:

Nancy, dear, that was a real long question to a real short answer.


Nancy:

Ooohh.



Lou:

Or a real long answer to a real short question.


Nancy:

Yes, yes....


Lou:

See I'm, I, I, it's like I'm channelling or something, I don't know. All right, let's go to er... to another one. Errrrrr.... let's see this is one is from Danish Wick, it says ask her why the Zetas told her people to kill their pets if this is the only "white lie?" and er... and that's it.



Nancy:

They didn't tell people to kill their pets. They, uhhhh... answered a question and it was in regards to what I do to my little "fluffy," you know, what, what do you suggest to do with pets. Like for instance they've gotten questions about domestic animals during the hours of rotation stoppage and they, the advice was if you keep them in the barn they're going to throw themselves against the doors and the walls and hurt themselves and break a leg and you'll have to put them down. Let them loose to run in the fields, because they'll run themselves into exhaustion and after the pole shift is over they'll more likely be OK. If you keep them in the barn they'll thrash around out of, because get frantic when there' moaning ahead of an earthquake. So with pets they said that consider that your neighbour's children are going to be starving and, and er... what you going to feed your pet if your neighbours children are starving. So, uhmmm.... if, if a person's in a situation not being able to feed their pets uhhhh.... we, we recommend euphonising it, but only when you're darn sure that, that this is the step to take in other words don't rush out and do it now, wait until you see, to your satisfaction, evidence that a pole shift is, I mean if the world stops rotating for a few days. Hey that red... green light has gone off, you know that red light is blinking whatever, how you want to call it. So, they didn't say go kill pets, they were asked a question to do with "fluffy" and they responded with an honest, practical answer. Like what you do about drinking water? Distil it, cause' it gets rid of lead and pollutants. That kind of a practical answer and it's become Nancy Lieder the puppy killer all over the place.



Lou:

OK, ah this one is from Dunn, forty One, Able, its from ah if Nancy cannot translate numbers why did she give a date?



Nancy:

Well a date is easy. I, you know, you look at the calendar and there it is, you know, uhmmm... if you said to me, errr... you know how about the middle of April, and I'll say "Oh April 15th, er.. something like that, that's something I can relate to. I'm orientated already. When they were describing what I, we go through when we give the uhmm... RA and the DEC, which is X and Y in the sky I don't just sit down and type those numbers down. I spend 15 minutes with several different graphics and getting my head on straight is exactly what we're talking about, Is it supposed to be going up or down, right or left and what is the general number range that it should be in and then I start taking the numbers down. So dates are like that, they're even easier. Yea that's my answer.



Lou:

OK, ahhhmm... Nancy are the Zetas going to give another date?



Nancy:

The answer to that was they firmly stated no dates, period, and, and the reason for that is a date in the hands of , like Homeland Security, that. that, er... rushed to err.. level ORANGE, like that, uhmmm.... would be used to prevent travel, to force people to stay in their homes, uhmmm... and err... we feel that er... and the Zetas feel that uhmmm... the common man should be armed uhmmm... as quickly as Homemland Security and therefore, ahhhh... they, any, any dates that they would be given uhmmm... would be used er... against the common man. So no dates.



Lou:

Nancy out of, out of curiosity erm.. well let me ask you this question. Errr.... it also says this white lie causes less talk about Planet X preparation is this what the Zetas want? People won't spread the word about Planet X preparation is that what the Zetas wanted.



Nancy:

I would beg to differ, for I think its caused a lot more. You know what the buzz is? Before it was Planet X is coming and here's what you do to prepare, and a certain number of people listened, then it became "Oh she gave a date and she missed it, bla, bla, bla," and coffe shop arguments back and forth, ridicule. What are you guys talking about? Oh this woman bla, bla, bla, oh really and more people have probably heard about it through the fact that uhmmm... it went back and forth and the subject of ridicule, and certain people standing up and saying "ahh nor so they're taking photographs of it and the government is doing a cover-up." In other words it has excited discussion and probably incited a heck of a lot more people becoming aware of it because it allowed ridicule and whooping and hollering.


Lou:

OK, errr... let's see, this one's from Speedy, it is you had your dog, dog, dogs put to sleep as a result of the Zetas white lie, doesn't it make you angry at the Zetas?



Nancy:

Actually, I had a German Shepard dog that was er... feral, it was, it was not erm... socialised enough in the kennel and was 18 months old and we put it down and the vet was utterly relieved, because he was afraid he was going to bite somebody and I could not socialise it, I really tried, uhmmm... and, and ahhh... in fact I, my point was I have put dogs to sleep, pets to sleep when it was necessary without regret, because it's no worse than them getting their rabies shot, uhmm... so I did'nt do that because I thought the pole shift was approaching, although I will tell you that I was very worried about what would happen with that dog, uhmmm... because he would be likely to go off and form a wild dog pack, and, and take children down and, and I would have done it ahead of the pole shift, yes. If, if we hadn't made the decision earlier for other reasons.



Lou:

(Clearing his throat) This one is from Tynan, it says get a grip Nancy if the government wanted you to shut down you would be shut down.



Nancy:

Well, uhhmm... errr. there's a mixed feelings about the message. There's a certain number of people who feel that people should be allowed to prepare and a certain number of people that don't want anything. So the approach they take is to let a certain amount of exposure be done and then to ridicule me, or to counter it and say, uhhh... like NASA for instance has mentioned me on their web site saying Nancy Lieder and Planet X is all a bunch of garbage, uhmmm, and ahhh.. they happened to mention the guy that was spreading a false rumour about, ahhhmm... Comet NEAT D1 being two to three times as large as Jupiter around in the Sun, that wasn't me. That was somebody else, errr... but they didn't mention that person's name at all they just slammed me. So. they, they do, uhmmm... ridicule me and, and have people of authority go about and say she's all wet, but at the same time the message that Zetatalk is giving is not only is coming and there's a cover-up but also here's what you do about it. They are not doing that and they can't do that. So there are good hearted people within the government who say let some of that message get out, some, some, but you'll notice I'm not on CNN.



Lou:

OK, this one is from Mr Snooks, if the Zetas can read thoughts like knowing all about assassination attempts on Nancy and the like it should be no problem for them to know how many finger you are holding up.....



Nancy:

(Sniggering)



Lou:

.....after all Nancy is claiming they are telepathic.



Nancy:

Hmmhuh, and fine so I rattle off a number and you say that's not true, even though it is true, and now I'm trashed, or you say that's right and you and I just colluded ahead of time, doesn't prove a thing.



Lou:

OK, errr... let's see...... (long pause) Ok this is er... Gary Tuck wants to know if erm... if Planet X is going to happen at least within a year?



Nancy:

Oh its a heck of a sooner than that and I'll give you a specific uhmm... since May 26th when we've been watching the live siesmo we noticed something odd about the south pole having this slow wave going on. I wouldn't call it, quakes up and down, sharp lines, this was a slow wave and, and ahh.. it switched at a certain point got very calm then both of the north and south poles we're wobbling like that, but the rest of the world was not and I asked the Zetas what that was and they called it "magma surging" and they described three steps that would happen. One would be that they said that Planet X is rising to the ecliptic and its, its magnetic particles are flowing from its north pole into the Earth south pole causing, you know, lob-sided accumulation of something, so the south pole only wobbled. Then it moved up to counter, er.... the flow on the side towards the Sun, so that uhmmm... both the north and south, and this is diagrammed on my website. The third step was that this material that was causing the poles to bobble would escape and flow around freely and then attach to the Atlantic rift which would be cause, created more of a magnet. That in fact happened yesterday and today, we are, I'm just tracking that. Now this tells me that' s step 1, 2, 3, and we're at step three so its around the corner. I'm not giving a date, but I'm telling you I am personally braced for this to happen anyday. The, the rotation stoppage.



Lou:

(Clearing his throat) All right, errrruh.... let's see, ask Nancy what we learned from the deaths of people dieing when it could have been stopped. How does that help us spiritually?



Nancy:

Erm... (Clearing throat) when, whenever uhmmm.. something that happens i..is in your hands, that you could have made a difference, this is Zetatalk by the way, whenever something happens that could have been stopped, or, or occurs was in your hands, where you could have made a difference, where you could have, uhmmm.... stepped forward, put yourself at risk, uhmmm.... dare to speak out ahhh.... dared to face ridicule, uhmmm... ahhh.... in some way and did not or did so this is a spiritual growth factor for you. Uhmmm..... if billions of people die, or millions of people die, err... there's many dramas, each one of those individually has an opportunity to try to save or help another, to comfort another, ahhh... there are people in a position of responsibility who know this is coming about and could step forward and take a risk to themselves. Having done that in their next lieftime they have moved spiritually, ahhh... and, and firmly so likewise if they hold back and do nothing, uhmmm... they have deep regrets which will culminate in the future life into more action, ahhh.... and this is what your life is about at this time in these kinds of lessons, and this is the end of Zetatalk.



Lou:

Errr.... let's see, errrrr.... ask Nancy if Planet X is still travelling at a quarter of the speed of light then how far is it from Earth, that's from Wolf.



Nancy:

Ahhh.... it was moving at that speed when it came from, like nine sun distances and zoomed in and once it got to about the orbit of, errr.... of, of, Saturn it slowed down right now it is floating slowly and the reason for this is the ecliptic is actually a backwash of particles flowing into the er... middle of the Sun and we're bobbling around in that backwash, kept at arms length from the Sun by the repulsion force which is a gravity, err... factor, kind of like a flow of gravity particles between large bodies. So, its coming up from the south close to 32 degree angle, up close to the ecliptic, literally floating, err... to the point where its going to come between the Earth and the Sun, and when it does it'll cause a pole shift. So it is not moving very rapidly right now at all. You look at the recent photo's you'll see it on the right, a little bit lower than the Sun, often tucked in front of the Sun and it's very close to the point where is going to cause rotation stoppage, and then, er... it takes a little while longer for a week I would suspect and then the pole shift. Uhmmm... because its such a, its like trying to ease onto the freeway on ramp that is already pretty crowded and the freeway is bumper to bumper. That's what's going on. It's not roaring along the highway at 75 miles per hour, its creeping.


Lou:

OK, this one's from er.. Lou Gee is there any kool aid that er... is a part of this.


Nancy:

The Zetas have never, kool aid, they're referring to Heaven's Gate or Jim Jones whatever. Zetas have never recommended suicide, they have said anyone who knows this is coming and is aware of it has a responsibility to stay alive and help those who are going to be taken by surprise. There's going to be shock and injury and grow up folks and take responsibility and help others. Don't think about the easy way out and suicide is that. Don't do it. That's been there message consistently.


Lou:

OK, er, this one's from Dunstable, ask Nancy if she really believed the Zetas, er, why does she have a job?


Nancy:

Well, how does that translate I have to eat and pay the mortgage. I'm living in today's society, you know, uhmmm... obviously uhmm... I'm broke, and, and, I'm, I'm broke because my book was never allowed to be presented in the book stores for people to even find it, you know, uhhhh.... and, and I've been, the message has been repressed, ahhh... so I, I, I wouldn't eat if I didn't work. And, and, and, that's the way it is. So its kind of a silly question, isn't it?



Lou:

Errr.... this one's from, errrr... Usharra37 ask her why there's no Atlantic rift yet, she keeps mentioning it?


Nancy:

Uhmmm.... there is an Atlantic rift right down the middle of the Atlantic. It runs from Iceland, er, down between the Americas and Europe then it jogs over to run down between Africa and South America. What is it they're talking about, this is a, if, if you look at any of the er, er the pl, the maps that show where the plate divisions are that's the biggy, its a big, uhmmm... deep cut.


Lou:

OK, let's see, ask Nancy why she claimed that the SOHO images of the Pleiades, er, or Pleiades are Planet X. The Pleiades are one of the most obvious star clusters in the sky.


Nancy:

Well it's not. Anybody can go take a look. Take a look at the SOHO of the 16th and the 18th, errr... and, and that object that shows up with two swirls of dust clouds coming off it on the 16th is not where the Pleiades is, or er, er, Aldebaran or any of the other stars. You can see them separately in the image. So whoever's looking at that didn't look at a star map and that SOHO image, they just listened to something that was said on the Usenet or some posting and they're prating a statement that was made that is not true. Just go take a look folks.


Lou:

OK, er, let's see. If Planet X is coming how close will its moons come to the Earth? Could they hit anything like our Moon.


Nancy:

Ahhh... no they'll stay separate. This question has been asked, er, from earlier ahmmm... Planet X comes within 14 million miles to the Earth on passage. It's moons stay within 5 million miles of Planet X. So they stay attached to Planet X as the gravitational force their in, our Moon does not lose its moorings either, it, it hugs the Earth and doesn't travel off and that's what's anticipated.....


[Theme music fades in]


Nancy:

.....That's the distances and the Moons allegiance today, large planets appear, er attracted to same to same.


Lou:

Ok real quick. Errr... ask Nancy why no astronomers can see your planet with solar filters?



Nancy:

Well that's not true, as a matter of fact we were filtering it, were imaging it with ameatur equipment and they do, uhmmm.... ask oh, er, uhm, observatories why they won't, uhmm... point you there to let you look and ask Mount, Mount Wilson why they won't their web cam at the sunset, in the direction that Missy did on the 26th and 27th of May. Just as them, you'll find out, ahhh... whether Planet X exists when you watch the cover-up in action and that's one of the best ways to determine there's something about to happen.


Lou:

OK, Nancy I want to thank you dear, we'll have you back on when the phone lines are on and we'll let the people ask the questions they want.


Nancy:

Yep, thanks for having me Lou:


Lou:

All right dear, you have a good night...



Nancy:

You too, bye bye.



Lou:

.... bye, bye.

Oh, and one more thing. All of this is from Brian Gillbank's web site at
http://www.thematrixconcept.btinternet.co.uk/LouGen.htm

My bad for not citing him in the first place. For those who don't know, Brian was a Zetacult insider who fell from Nancy's grace.

Well, he's a hero. And so are you.



So this is going to be her new tack? That she's working for the Gray Men, not the Zetas?

I see.

Erm, did I miss something, or did she just say that she DOESN'T want people to read it for themselves on Zetatalk?

Of course.

...which took place in 2000..

Quote:

.and they likewise accelerated this when they got more specific information on your show Lou, on the evening of the 16th

Now I have this wonderful mental image of the Joint Chiefs of Staff crouched around a radio in the War Room, listening to Lou Gentile to get their Planet X updates.

Yes, the Zetas are truly omnisicient--they even knew President Bush was leaving for his vacation early.

And I LOVE her reference to the "thousands" of assassination attempts that she has survived. Man, there must be some truly inept assassins out there, they can't even off an addled middle-aged woman living in Wisconsin. And who are they supposed to be working for? The Federal Government, to silence her? But I thought she was getting ready to say that she's actually working for them...

And I LOVE the way, when Lou asks her how the Zetas know about current world events, she replies basically that they know it because--they know it!!

This is someone who is truly mentally ill.

And I absolutely ADORE the way Lou asks the Zetas, "What is 789 times 456?" and Nancy's response is, "Nancy can't do this without an adding machine or a piece of paper and a pencil". She totally misses the point that he's not asking "Nancy" to multiply 789 times 456, he's asking the Zetas.

And then she changes the subject to "your government is lying to you with these poorly doctored SOHO photos!"

Go Tynan!! Yess!!

There is a God.

Hmmm. Now the dog was put to sleep because it was "feral" and not because of the approaching pole shift. You don't suppose this backtracking was caused by the wrath of all of the animal lovers descending upon her head, do you? And BIG thanks to the transcribers. You guys are the best!!!

Psi-less

I guess we got a position-shift instead of a pole-shift. :roll:

"And BIG thanks to the transcribers. You guys are the best!!!"
Ditto.

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I must not PX. PX is the mind-killer. I will face my PX. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the PX has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.