Imagine a helium filled balloon. Now imagine that the shape of it is toroidal much like an inflated auto inner tube. This is the body of the UFO.

Now place a microwave receiver dish on top of the inflated toroid made as I said in "How UFOs work". Then place the solenoid in the center of the toroid. You now have all the basic parts of the UFO.(Refer to"How UFOs work).

Now enlarge the inflated toroid to 20 meters across and 10 meteres deep and match the dish and toroid proportionally to it. Build the inflated toroid of Kevlar or the new carbon nanotube fibers recently made in laboratories. Inside this toroid are the astronaut quarters,control center, transformers, diodes and other equipment.

During launch the toroid is filled with helium to give lift and structural integrity to the craft. The propulsion works as explained in "How UFOs work". Once the craft is in space the helium is deflated thru the solenoid and used as a propellant. Once enough of the helium has been used oxygen is released into the helium and the astronauts may remove their space suits and breath normally much like deep sea divers do.

Now the solenoids magnetic field pushes in opposition to the dark forces opposite magnetic field and the craft begins to accelerate (refer to "How UFOs work") . The acceleration is relative to magnetic field strength of the solenoid. The more force the magnetic field has the harder the dark force antimagnetic field will push back. It will take large field strengthes to work.
Uralph

Hmmm, Ok, This is a continuation of the previous thread, right? you really should have responded to the posts on that tread, you know...

But lets see what you have proposed here, the crafts mass in the atmosphere is redused by using a lighter than air gas... But wouldn't you still need a powerfull launch engine to boost it into orbit? The helium gas would only help up to a certain height, when the atmosphere no longer would be dense enough to add lift to the craft. And so you would still have to have an engine capable of obtaining escape velocity... You know, like when one use balloons to carry rockets up to a higher altitude to reduce the fuel need...

You use the helium to get a little extra thrust, and then use your magnetic drive to propell the craft the rest of the way.. hmmm, now, answer me these questions: The dark force your craft is supposed to use is everywere in the universe, right? You are saying that the dark force is like a diamagnetic force, you know, like when diamagnetic materials like bismuth or graphite is used as stabilizers for levitation of magnets? So the dark force is a mass(diamagnetics is a property of the electrons movement around an atom in a magnetic field)? Why are you convinced that this dark force have this property? and how can it be dense enough to be usable att low speeds, and still not affect all the magnets on earth? and of cause, if the dark force is everywere, it would push at both sides of the coils, and so the net propultion would be nothing.. how would you prevent this?

I am sorry, I don't think this would work as a propultion system, there is to many problems with it... And, of cause, as I explained in this other thread, an air-wound coil is not a solenoid...

I'm a bit confused about something... not about the propulsion system, but TrAI's use of the phrase "of cause". It seems to mean "of course". Is this done on purpose or is it used instead of "of course" in a culture I'm not aware of. Serious question. I want to know.

No, the problem is more that english isn't my normal language, so I do mangle some words, and mix up their writing... It is not intentional...

Aha! Thankey for clearing that up

Hmm, nice follow up - that sure cleared up the questions I had...



Uralph, your rating in mBarts is rising.

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Wouldn't it just be easier to stick to big rockets and shuttles? We know those work.

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