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Old 21-July-2003, 10:20 PM
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Default Still clinging to hope....

tian boon is still measuring the slowing rotation. :roll:

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Old 22-July-2003, 12:49 AM
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I would like to know what method they use to check the slowing of rotation. I have noticed a difference in the length of the day, but this is due to the fact that the daylight time is getting shorter, that is the way the world works.
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Old 22-July-2003, 12:50 AM
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and is this the starting point for the acceleration mentioned by our friend ZT?
Accelleration???? I thought it was slowing down!
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Old 22-July-2003, 12:53 AM
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I would like to know what method they use to check the slowing of rotation. I have noticed a difference in the length of the day, but this is due to the fact that the daylight time is getting shorter, that is the way the world works.
That reminds me of something... stay with me here, I'll get to it!

When I first found this site and started reading up on it all (I was looking for some info to debunk someone who started talking about the lunar landing 'hoax', one thing I found interested me a lot: Where Phil mentions how the 'official' first day of summer is actually the longest day of the year, but many people tend perhaps to think that somewhere in the 'middle' of summer would be the longest day.

I think I've seen some of the 'signs' people mentioning things that relate here, sometimes, when they bother to try to make any sense: While most of them seem simply to have no clue at all, I -think- I saw one of them one time mention how the days seemed to be getting shorter, even though we were going further into summer... or something.
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Old 22-July-2003, 01:35 AM
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didn't we stop yet?? 8-[ oh no I am going to die!!!
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Notice the inconsistancy? A month ago people were claiming to have 10-20 time differences and now it's back down to 4 minutes? This implies that at various intervals the Earth is randomly speeding up and slowing down. This is magic, you know, like when David Copperfield walked through the Great Wall of China.
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Old 24-July-2003, 10:25 PM
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on a more serious note, where you are in a time zone is very important! sunset for someone in New York may be 2020 hours. where i am, however, is only about 5 or 8 miles from the line for the next time zone. the sun isn't set here until, say, 2045 or 2100 hours (i don't know the exact degrees, so i can't be positive of the difference, but it is noticeable). astronomically, i would be better off judging by central time if i wanted my clock to have the same readout as the one in New York for any given event in the sky. of course, i'm still en Eastern Time... :P . phooey on time zones! who needs them anyway. :wink:

i wonder if she's taking that into account... :-k
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Old 24-July-2003, 11:01 PM
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Default Zetas point to time effects as the primary evidence to watch

The latest ZT has the Zetas saying that the time effects will be the only "sure sign" of the impending shift (still talking with the strong implication of any day now).

Hmm, what a coincidence, it is also the most baseless and unprovable. Consider: what is "official" time if you cannot trust the atomic clocks? And how good are you at determining the "noon peak" or the sunrise or sunset? And are you using an time table for your exact global position or something more general and less accurate? And what are you using to measure the time?

It's easy enough to see that between the error of mechanical or electronic clocks, poor measurement of the solar or astronomical reference points, and the lack of an official time measurement (which means absolute deviance from an "expected" time is meaningless, only trending variance and that's only as good as your clock and your measurement of the sun), a few minutes is not at all hard to come up with.

And I'm remembering a special I saw on PBS a long time ago, talking about how early measurements of the cranial capacity of man found white men having the biggest brains and capacity basically going down the darker the skin got. Later these measurements proved to be innaccurate - brains all pretty much the same. What happened? Well, those initial measurements were done with fine seed -which can be PACKED. Later measurements were done with metal shot. No packing possible. As the scientist talking about it said, it is easy to imagine a white scientist with a preconceived notion. He fills up a black skull, taps it a couple of times to settle it, tops it up and pours it off into a graduated cylinder. Off to the white skull. Fills it, it settles. In the back of the mind something is telling him, not quite full enough. Must be missing a spot. Gives it a couple digs with his thumb. Packs it in. Tops it up. Ah, that looks just right. Even if he wasn't consciously cheating (who can say), if your method is poor you will end up reflecting your prejudices...

See my point? You're looking for the noon peak. When does that bugger stop climbing? Terribly dependent on paralax. Do you have your:

Solarscope
Plumb line
Accurate timepiece
Measurement screen

Or are you just winging it?

Glancing at the watch. Sure, there it is. Whaddya know, six minutes late. Good gravy that shift is right around the bend!

The problem is these people are not measuring to arrive at a conclusion, but to confirm what they already believe. As a result they gravitate to sloppy methods because these methods allow the most subconscious control to get the desired results.
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I keep a copy of the Old Farmers Almanac (OFA) in my fishing vest...
Adjusted for Anchorage it seems to work just fine for Sun/Moon risings and settings, length of twighlight, etc. The tides here are a little tricky though.
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DodgerDean nailed it right.

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I keep a copy of the Old Farmers Almanac (OFA) in my fishing vest...
Adjusted for Anchorage it seems to work just fine for Sun/Moon risings and settings, length of twighlight, etc.
Yes indeed, the Old Farmer's Almanac! Those tide/Sun/moon
tables work well in Florida too. =D> The fish here havent
noticed any impending "shifts". The tides haven't either!

hmmmmmmm......
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DodgerDean nailed it right.

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I keep a copy of the Old Farmers Almanac (OFA) in my fishing vest...
Adjusted for Anchorage it seems to work just fine for Sun/Moon risings and settings, length of twighlight, etc.
Yes indeed, the Old Farmer's Almanac! Those tide/Sun/moon
tables work well in Florida too. =D> The fish here havent
noticed any impending "shifts". The tides haven't either!

hmmmmmmm......
This just proves that the Old Farmer himself has been recruited as a government disinfo agent.........
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You think maybe closing the Planet X forum on this board would help bury Nancy's coffin a bit faster?
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You think maybe closing the Planet X forum on this board would help bury Nancy's coffin a bit faster?
I wish it would. However, she would probably chalk it up as
a vindication of her manical rantings and prompt even more outlandish
pronouncements. #-o

Someone has to be the voice of reason, why not us? =D>
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