I am sorry, because i dont give you answers last time. Now we have a lot of english our pages. Check it out. There is anwers for many mystery.



Space

According to my idea the space does not expand or bend.

All the substance as to say mass consists of expanding energyconcentarions. They open up energywaves and with these energyconcentarions one can think that the massconcentrations are bending space, but they don´t bend to a dimple but to the other way round.

A star, for example the sun, is a top of one certain mountain (so to say galaxy), so that this mountain (=sun) declines and expands three-dimentionally opening up energywaves or slopes. The planets rumble in a slope that opens up from the sun or push themselves away from the sun in a bender orbit at the same ralation as they expand. Finally all the massconcentrations have declined or expanded smoothly to an energy that has the same density in a space that does not expand or bend.


Atoms nucleus expanding all a time and expanding nucleus open energywaves who have electrons and photons personality.

Also electrons and photons expanding all a time three-dimensinally.


Important*

Why different ingredients expand at the same speed? The nucleus of atom
consists of separate three-dimensionally expansive particles which open
energy waves. Also these consist of different three-dimensionally
expansive particles and so on.

The energy waves, that are opened from the atom, can go to certain depth
inside the next atomnucleus. Finally they face so densed energy, that they
burn up and get away from the nucleus.

When the expansive particle (going towards the nucleus of an atomic bomb )
gets to the area between separate particles, it begings to explode much
more powerfully. Because it will face densed energy from the several
different directions. This makes it to explode lots of energy towards
separate particles of nucleus. This energy makes the separate particles to
explode lots of their energy towards the centre of nucleus.

With this energy at least two separate expanding particles are twitched to
the nucleus of the next atoms and a chain reaction has born (an atombomb).

Will this opening energy of an exploded particle get inside of the protons
and neutrons to an area between separate particles (quarks)?

(The protons and the neutrons are similar three-dimentionally opening
particles that open up energywaves.
The protons and the neutrons consist of separate expanding particles that
also open up energywaves.)

In atombomb so dence energy comes to to the atomcore that it can go much
further than normally before burning out and going away from the atomcore.
Even thought any energy wouldn´t come towards the nucleus, it continues to
expand anyway.

After the certain point the outside energy can´t enter even inside of an
atomic bomb.

Still the quarks continue to expand and open as energy waves. With
the waves quarks make each others to explode more and more energy towards
each others.

The more there are protons and neutrons inside the nucleus the more they
make each others to explode energy away from the centre of an nucleus.
Same time the more densed energy waves of the nucleus will open and the
more electrons will be seen..
Heavy atoms nucleus explode more of their energy away from the nucleus.
They continue exploding faster and faster and that´s why they have more
electrons than the light ingredient have all the time.

The atoms of heavy ingredients burn their energy faster and that´s why
their volume will relatively/proportionally stay same than the volume of
light ingredients.



http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/296


Savorinen

OK...ummm....could someone lend a hand and translate this??

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By what mechanism would a planet 'push itself' away from the sun??

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Is this intended to be a continuation of the ATM idea presented in the (now closed) thread Onesimpleprinciple.com?

Expanding protons and neutrons?? Are you saying that these particles are literally growing?? If so, how come I'm not 'exploding outward' as I sit here typing this?

I'm confused.

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Probably. It maintains the same high standard of incoherence.

Well, you have lot of english words on your pages, but I'm not sure they are in the correct order.

Neutrinos expanding too and they open energywaves who have very small energyparticle personality. This very small energyparticle expanding and they smash our quarks and then they giving they moving energy for us. There is a lot of neutrinos who giving moving energy for all planets atoms nucleus who expanding all a time.

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Quasars*
Quasi-stellar objects (QSO)


Is it possible that the visible universe moves in a moment entirely away from the space where it locates now, so that everything expand / explode at the same time and become for example to times bigger than they are now?

Are the galaxies photons of a substance that is in one size larger scale?

Are the quasi-stellar objects formed at the same time when the giant energyconcentrations of the galaxycentres pass by the similar concentrations that come against nearby?

Maybe the whole visible univese moved for the first seven billion years inside a substance that was one scale larger.

Also the photons give way to the photons coming against by waves that open up by themselves. The nearer the passing happens the more the opening energy from the energy concentration comimng against makes the concentration to explode energy in frontsides and with this energy they pass to another direction.

Is the corona of the sun formed when the energybudles coming against the sun pass nearby the energybudles opening up from the sun? Or does there happen straight smashes?

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Stars *
According to my idea, stars are formed out of gigantic, three-dimensionally expanding energy concentrations in the centres of galaxies, which release energy waves with an atomic nature. Energy waves that open up contain expanding quarks.

A sufficient energy pulse from outside sweeps with it the energy waves released by the quarks, which would otherwise push other quarks away in a relation analogous to their expansion. Now, the quarks start to expand and come close to each other in a way similar to cold fusion, forming what is called protons and neutrons, which are similar expanding energy concentrations releasing energy waves.

This explains one of the mysteries in modern physics, that is, how it is possible that new stars still come into existence near the gigantic black holes in galaxy centres. If the black holes indeed had a force that the calculations show, that attractive force ought to prevent the formation of new stars. My idea, in turn, could predict the new stars in the vicinity of the huge black holes in galaxy centres.

If I am right about my theory, how many times has the globe circulated the sun? It might very well be so, that once the planets have pushed themselves away from the sun much more directly. Not until then when there has become
energywaves from other galaxies has the orbit of each planet bended more curved and settled to the stable speed it has now. So the atoms of the globe have vibrated for 4,5 billion years, but if the globe once did´t circulate the sun nearly as fast as it nowadays does, we can ask how old the globe really is? If the age is counted so that one year is one circuit, so how old is the globe then?

There are lots of researches about tornados, but this phenomen is still not quite understood.

Often lightnings belong to the birth of tornado. Let us think how the energy of a lightning cleans up the energy opening up from the atomcores of atmosphere with it and the atomcores of that area don´t push themselves away. The atoms outside this area continue pushing themselves away from each other and this is how the atomcores in target area of a lightning push themselves close to each other. This is how a gas statue developes. After that the atom cores start to push themselves forcefully away from each other. The atoms of the statue don´t have the power to push each other towards a less dence area, that is to say upwards so that the statue could stay straight. It twistes itself to a tornado, and its atoms / molecules capture with them the molecules of the atmosphere alongside. This is how masses of air begin to flow towards the tornado on account of variation of pressure.

Apparently nowadays most of the people in science societies don´t presume that the so called cold fusion could be possible. According to my theory it however is possible. As a matter of fact it is a relevant part of the
principles of the universe.

As I understand, observations of cold fusion can be observed in a certain substance, that has hydrogen atoms. A sound (=a certain pressure wave) is conducted to that substance and according to my theory this sound cleans the
energywaves opening up at that that moment from two different hydrogen atomcores with the sound. After that these two cores of hydrogen atom don´t push themselves away from each other at the same relation as they expand.

The other atoms around them continue to expand and push this way these two hydrogen atomcores close to each other with the energywaves that open up from themselves. This is the way that helium atom is born. At the same time it releases so called pure energy, which could maybe be used by a convenient technology.

It is possible, that the solid substance of the sufrace of earth has born like in cold fusion. Maybe the energybundles that came towards the globe and were energic enought caused that the liquid altered to a solid substance.
Maybe the globe once was a gasplanet and a gas altered to a liquid and a liquid to a solid substance.

J, you're trying to do too much on one thread. How about making a single simple ATM statement that we can respond to, instead of many that are unclear? For example, are you proposing that everything expands continuously all the time?

Thanks, John M.

My english is not enaf good. I f i understund right way, then answer is yes.

Atoms nucleus expanding all a time and they open energywaves who have electrons and photons personality.

I put good translation here first.

Savorinen

Lightnings exist in a certain weather, when there is a certain kind of pressure variation in atmosphere. At first the energy rapidly explodes from down to up towards a less dense area and this dense energypulse cleans the energy opening from the atomcores with the energypulse up towards a less dense area.

The energybundles of this energic pulse open energy itself forwards. Now one energybundle in this energyfront hits to some atonscore higher up, before the actual energypulse reaches there. It makes really a lot of energy to explode from there. This energy is now directed also to an area that has the least dense energy and locates now down, from where the front of the energypulse (the pilotwave) has cleaned energy upwards with it.This is why the actual lightning strikes straight towards the energypulse that has opened up from downwards.

Look also ”the Tsunami 2004” subject in Geology section.

Many blue jets exist in upper atmosphere and they release really a lot of energy upwards like fans. Is this a mystery to a modern technology?

Let us think, that towards the globe there comes energywaves from space and the energic energybundles of these energywaves meet energybundles that open up from the globe. The energybundles coming from the globe clean with them away from the globe the energywaves that come from energybundles coming towards the globe. Now the energybundles coming towards the globe don´t push themselves separate from each other at the same relation
as they expand. This is how they reach out each other without actually moving towards each other.

The energybundles coming towards the globe unite themselves to more energic energybundles. At the same time they themselves clean with them the energywaves opening up from the upper atmospheres atomcores. At some point one energybundle in that energypulse hits to some three-dimentionally expanding centre of energyconcentration that locates in atomcore of atmosphere.

This makes a lot of energy to explode from that towards a less dence area up above from where the energypulse itself has just cleaned energy with it towards the globe. During the movement of energypulse coming towards the globe, those atomcores from which the energypulse cleaned energy with the pulse, have had time to push themselves away from the centre of the globe so that now the strongly exploding energy can spread powerfully upwards as a fan.


Savorinen

The tracklevel of planets*
Planets always try to push themselves away from their stars to a area, where they get the least thick energy from the star. And every planet in a way float in an energysea opening from the star (the same way as the fishing float does) plumping around its axle depending which side of the planet is thicker. The thicker side of the planet is plumping down towards the sun (= the "the bottom of the sea).

Also the galaxy is like a plate, this way for example towards the sun there comes more energywaves from other stars in equator level of sun than from the direction of the sunpoles. The sun makes the energywaves of other stars to bend. When the stars pass the sun above, they bend and go gross with the energywaves that have passed the sun beneath. These waves also bend. That is why there is in a way an energyfurrow in a energysea coming from the sun and all the planets take their places according how thick the planets themselves are. This is compared to a thing how the water take its place in a river at the bottom of a valley or a pass.


Savorinen Jukka

This seems to have certain overtones of being an EU thread. That perspective is derived from those small parts that I'm able to decipher (I think).

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Could you please start at the start and explain to us why:

Atoms nucleus expanding all a time and they open energywaves who have electrons and photons personality.

And answer me these questions three:

- Is there any evidence that everything is expanding, and if so, how would you measure this (oh that is an old thread here in ATM)
- What are the energy waves that are opened up
- Why are the energy waves electrons and photons (or their "personalities")

It just does not do writing incoherent message after message, when you do not explain the basics.

What is your native language, maybe we can organize something so you understand our complaints/questions better.

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I have about 100 pages with finnish.

Now we transltion this pages.

My english is not enaf good to explain that great new idea.

Maybe is better if i just put first this translation here and after that you can asking me what you like?

You asking why atoms nucleus expanding all a time. is a good question.

If big bang theory is right, can you told why big bang born?

No you cant.


Why people can go near nxt people and why they can push themselfes far a way with hand? Why you can realase pressure people energycentre centrum?



Maybe "god" or energy working all a time and thats why all atoms expanding all a time.

MAYBE!?!

I dont know why.

Still i think about thats why we can realase everything.


Savorinen Jukka

Ice age*
Let us think, that more energy than normally comes towards the sun and this makes the sun open up more energy than usually. Then towards the globe there comes more energy than usually and this causes that the globe begins to push itself away from the sun in a curved orbit faster than normally. The seas and the lakes vaporize more humidity to atmosphere than normally. In some point there woun´t come any more energy towards the sun than normally and
then also there woun´t open up energy from the sun more than usually.

Then the globe is pushing itself further away from the sun and that´s why the temperature of the globe drops rapidly a lot. Then the humidity in the atmosphere freezes and this is how continents become covered with ice. This surface does not totally melt when the globe sinks "deeper" than normally to the energysea that opens up from the sun. When the energywaves coming from the sun have made the globe rise over the "seasurface" in the energysea opening up from the sun, the seas vaporize again strongly and freeze again over the ice cover at the continents.

For some time the movement orbit of the three-dimentionally expanding globe swings more than usually at the same time as the expanding globe pushes itself away from the three-dimentionally expanding sun.

During some time this swinging reduces and the ice begins to melt.


Savorinen Jukka

Acceleration +
Why dont we on the globe orbit observe the acceleration away from the Globe?

Same time we also dont observe the acceleration away from the Sun.

The neutrinos coming from the Sun expand three dimensionally and move their kinetic energy to the atomic cores.

Also same kind of energy coming from the Globe expand three dimensionally and move their kinetic energy to the atomic cores of the spaceport on the Globes orbit seperately.

When we move away from the surface of the Globe, we can see more of it.
There will also be more opening energy bunches which expand and move their kinetic energy to other materials on the Globe orbit.

The farer away off Globe s surface we go the more energy can come towards us the outskirts of the Globe. And the outer pressure that push us towards the Globe s surface will decrease relatively.

Savorinen Jukka

Why did you come here, then? If you cannot explain your idea, you cannot abide by our rules to defend your idea.

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I can try to explain.

I realase that many person asking something and i have already answer for that question in my pages. So, i think that way. It mide be better if i get all translation and you can asking after that what you like to ask.

If you dont to like wait, you can asking right a way. I like to try get answer for you.

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The Planets

The heavier substace the planet consists of, the deeper in an energysea opening up from the sun it pushes itself in a curved orbit away from the sun.

A new species of the Planets

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/press/2006/pr200624.html

The astronomers have located several bizarre light gasplanets.

They move close to their star and circulate around it in 4-5 days.

According to my theory the gasplanets of the solar system push themselves away from the sun further than the rock planets, because the gas planets are lighter.

Why do these even more lighter planets circulate around their stars so close?

Why do the Pioneer sounders have an unexplainable acceleration towards the sun?

According to my theory the atoms of the planets expand and open up energywaves. These waves make the neutrinos to explode their energy towards the atomcores of the planets. This is how a neutrino transfers its kinetic energy.

At some point the atoms of gasplanets have expanded for so long time, that the energywaves opening up from them are able to push the atomcore nextby easily further. Now between the atomcores there doesn´t move relatively such dense energywaves as earlier.

Neutrino that moves between the atomcores of such a light gasplanet don´t affect with dence energy. That is why neutrino does´t explode its energy as much towards that light planets atomcores.

Now the surface of expanding star begins to reach for expanding gasplanet relatively. The gasplanet approaches the star without moving towards it. Then it settles down and pushes it away from its star nearby.

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Saturn*
Do the planets open up more energy from their poles?

That would explain the location of the rings that have been observed around the gasplanets. The material of the rings has found its way to a energyfurrow around the planet and pushes itself away from its expanding planet in that area. This happens also in Uranus case.

This information lets us understand that the gasplanets really do open up more energy from their poles.

http://apod.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061113.html

At least the energy coming from the sun reflects partly out of the planets and because the planets are round, this energy does not go back towards the sun. Also in case of the Uranus this reflecting energy would form its own share of the energyfurrow, because it it really doesn´t reflect from Uranus towards its rings.

Approximately in 30 years distance there is a big strorm observed in Saturn. The maximum amount of sun points appear in 11 years distance. Saturn itself circulates around the sun once in 29,5 years.

I predict that energywaves come from the galaxy centre in approximately 11 years distance. These energywaves have the nature of the quarks. Because the regular storms of Saturn in 30 years distance last just for a little time, I claim that only one out of three strorms is observed from the globe.

These energywaves in the centre of the galaxy maintain also the red spot of the Jupiter and maybe also can explain the spots of Uranus and Jupiter.

The energybundles heading towards the sun burn out so deep inside the sun that the energywaves coming out of them appear in 11 years delay. When the outcoming energysreams are staunched there are only sunspots left.


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Venus*
Venus rotates around its axle clockwise. The other planets rotate around their axles anti-clockwise. All the planets rotate around the sun anti-clockwise.

Venus is the only planet that has average temperature also at nights in plus degrees, hundres of degrees!

Does the energy that comes from the sun and commits to the Venus open up mostly in mornings of Venus? This would make Venus rotate clockwise around its axle. At the same time Venus would get kinetic energy to a curved orbit, that would take Venus around the sun anti-clockwise.

Suns energy committing to other planets of rock would open up mostly at nights.

The energy of Venus opening up in the mornings is then rotating Venus with downthread in relation to the surface of the energysea opening up from the sun. Does this cause friction that keeps Venus hot?


Jukka Petteri Savorinen

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