Good that was the part I was trying to nail down. But it does seem to equate energy directly with space.

So does this represent a continuation of the Guth free lunch with the expansion of space albeit at a much reduced rate? Is this in order to replace dark energy as seen as a force driving the expansion of the universe.

What I am not seeing is the connection of how this cooling effect is related to the title of the OP which contends that "Space is boiling with energy" and I appreciate given the figures you cite that eye catching title is a bit overstated.

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Well, Guth's free lunch was the balance between gravitational potential and the total mass energy, I believe, but inflation had a definite cause in the very early cosmic evolution.

It's an attempted description of dark energy, how it acts, where it comes from....

Quite. It's an idea in development....

It does seem to be a residual "energetic space" effect from the brief period of exceedingly high expansion that Guth and others developed. That inflation only occurred due to the extreme conditions of a spacetime very different than ours! But it may have left over this tiny expansion effect...

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Most interesting. Not what I had in mind but most interesting. The period from 5 billion years to 8 billion years where the universe appeared to slow down somewhat ... would this be like burping the baby?

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A space inflation seems to be an initial condition when the energy of the space was converted into rest mass matter. What inflation of the space is I do not know.
I suppose it was a primordial Black Hole created of the Vacuum Space curvature but it is my assumption only.

After a short period of Planck time the inflation of the space stops and the recession of the space begins. The space recession we observe till now.
In my idea the space recessin is just a supply of the Vacuum into a Black Hole. The Vacuum Energy is a potential energy which is converted into a kinetic energy inside a Black Hole. That way the Black Hole grows Mass=Radius c^2/2G and its density decreases.

At the end of inflation, I believe. At the beginning, I expect there were only quantum fluctuations in a highly compressed state of spacetime.

Black holes exist in space, and they have various, finite masses. The more common "picture" of the "beginning" is something very small, subject to Heisenberg uncertainty, a quantum fluctuation that somehow escaped the normal inverse proportion rule between amount of energy and duration of time allowed.

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Welcome to the "Dark Side" Cougar...;-)

It is amazing to me how sometimes the smallest things I read can be SO hugely meaningful.

Yes, Ever since Lisa Randall came up with her "Gravity Leaking" to our universe, it has become VERY obvious that 'something'/Constant is 'coming into our universe from the outside'.

Right, it is not a closed system, AND, if a constant something is entering then a constant something is leaving...

Einstein actually had/has the answer to this...

Where is the 'most likely' places where the 'energy that is 10^118-122 times LESS' than theory predicts, IE; the CMBR, can "COME THROUGH" to our universe???

Now, this cannot have happened "All at Once", it MUST be a continuous process and still be the cause/effect of expansion, BUT not from a 'shrunken down to 0 or near 0 or any contracting or expanding like a sphere scenario!!!

The Voids all have orientations that allow the "constant coming through"/the Neutrinos carrying the CMBR photons (Not stretched!) to go to infinity in ALL directions at "c". That does make 'space' absolute, and is why all stationary observers see light coming at them at "c". And, YES, this is the Aether, which is absolutely needed to correctly explain the workings of our universe!!! And those neutrinos are going right through ALL baryonic matter at "c".

AND, here's another little tidbit for you...

Mainstream was "Modeling" this at one time!!!

Now, Cougar...Those are the Strings of String Theory...the tiny little vibrating !0^-33 Point Particles, and that is nearly isotropic and Homergenous throughout ALL of space to infinity, AND Flat and Expanding from each of the VOIDS. This IS how the Strings of String/"M" theory ARE/become Background Independent!!! If you really know what that means and how it applies!

Now those Voids MAY or MAY NOT be expanding over time, BUT the Voids far away were NEVER closer to us than their orginal distance where they started from!!!

Now, Those Strings form Branes, as per "M" theory, and when those Branes collide, with all of that CMBR "Energy", THEN you have a Gamma Ray Event that CAN provide the "Binding Energy" to make electrons/Protons.

Those Branes Colliding are a Gravitational Collapse that forms a SMBH and the Gamma Radiation Event is what we see as a result...a NEW GALAXY or dwarf Galaxy being formed in "Empty Space". Those galaxies have been 'falling' into their respective clusters for 10's of billions of years, one at a time.

Note, that the Zero Point Energy (ZPE) does NOT have any "Binding Energy" to 'make'/create virtual particles! Fortunately for us, since billions of them are going right through our bodies and brains every second...

Anyway, thanks Cougar! This is a "link" in my ongoing model that has been partially alluding me... I have been saying that those neutrinos, that make up ALL of the DM/Space are basically "Inert", and they are when you consider that they are going right through US, BUT, not when you consider the amount of energy they actually do contain when you see them as the CMB making of ALL of the expanding to infinity unverse!!!

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Good point, but sometimes it is possible to use that kind of input to improve your ATM, not that it needs improving .

With regard to neutrinos, what if they are mostly not supposed to interact and we should be barely aware of their presence due to 'other causes'.

Strange idea but here goes. In 1999 the superluminal appearance of a jet emanating from M87 in the Virgo super cluster gave the optical illusion of light travelling at four times the speed of light.

Well that can't be right as it would be in disagreement with special relativity. So what exactly would an energy particle travelling outside our frame reference with respect to the speed of light look like. Well probably a highly energetic lump of some sort perhaps and probably a very difficult particle to give attributes of mass. It would be one that mostly doesn't interact and when just barely interacting with another particles causes an interesting cascade of assorted energies.

Because it is outside this reference frame with respect to special relativity then we are not within its frame either and are unable to interact mostly. The energy equivalent for a neutrino would exceed the most energetic of known particles and may just pass because of an inability to catch it.

Just a passing thought.

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Will the person who figures out "Quantum Gravity" be a HERO or a ZERO???

Einstein was right about a couple of things and he was on the right tract with a few others, BUT he and others before him made decisions (LAWS) about how the universe MUST be working without having nearly enough knowledge!!!

It is NOT just the Big Bang "Inside Solution" for a Naked Expanding singularity that is the problem!!!

For 100 years the Aether has been denied by all mainstream Comologists!!!

The Aether IS the alternative to SR....The Major Problem with that is that NO alternative Maths have ever been developed for that scenario...and this goes back to first principles at SOOOOO many levels!!!

NOW, most of you do NOT realize the deep underlying implications of what that really means MUST happen IF our understanding of how the universe is really working is ever going to get on the right track!!!

ALL Alien races have had to face this stage of their Cosmology.

Now, ALL of our scientists have done the best they possibly could to get where they are today, BUT the truth about what is really happening was NOT even available to us until 1997.

SO, when the question was asked in Q&A...will the Aliens understand our Maths.........The answer is this....

It totally depends on whether their Einstein and others figured out that the Aether MUST be there, and what the Division by 0 Really meant if they even started monkeying around with "Time" being a variable!!!

They "Might" barely recognize 'some' of our maths from their ancient past, BUT I guarantee we would recognize NONE of theirs. (This assumes of course that there is a Maths Universal Translater)

SO, while I fully agree that every 'Aether" theory, and especially ANY 'wave' Aether theory have ALL been false, I will also guarantee...

That there is an Aether, that it is "Quantum Gravity" and That it is coming in from the outside.

That Aether IS traveling at "c" in all directions to infinity!!!

Then it simple comes down to galaxy formation....

The First Time "EACH" Galaxies and Dwarf Galaxies Massive Black Hole "Jets" are visable, is when GRB's "Beam" (Jets) it's High Energy Gamma Radiation.

This is where Nucleosynthesis takes place for Each Galaxy seperately!!!

They then go through all of their morph stages starting with the Dark matter Galaxies, to the BCD's to the LSB's to the HSB's to the Seiferts, to the Ellipticals...

The Universe is a perpetual Galaxy making Machine!

Much better than an expanding to nothingness fate....Don'tcha think....;-)

The Quasars and Blasars (Where the 'jet' is pointed right at us) are ALL coming out of (Seiferts with partially formed "Bulges and then) Elliptical Fully formed and the oldest galaxies in the universe!

Unfortunately, the universe does not operate as we would wish it to!

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Yes, you are exactly correct!

"Open System" OR "Closed system"

For over 100 years Mainstream has 'inadvertently' defined all of the cause/effect correlations of how the universe is working to be in a 'Closed System'.

The real problem though is that the BBT(s) have NO cause to any effect, ONLY a 'transition' from an unknown to a percieved "Effect".

They use the term "Singularity" as though they know what it means, and describe what is "Happening" at and near it, while at the same time, declaring it to be mathematical only, and totally "Undefined"....AND that ALL of the Laws of Physics break down there, and means that the theory must be invalid.

Now, while I agree that they had no reason to do this until 1997, please explain to me why ALL of the greatest minds in physics ie: Hawking, Penrose, Thorne, Presskill, Wheeler, Susskind.....(Especially when they were working on Cosmic Censorship) DID NOT realize that SINCE we have NEVER found even one Non-rotating SMBH, that the "Point Singularity" solution MATHS were NOT Ever applicable.

SO, Not only does Cosmic Censporship apply to singularities, BUT a "Point Singularity" Non-rotating BH has never be 'observed'. Not once, anywhere in our universe...NADA.

SO, mainsteam has and did find the solution, a long time ago...The Rotating Kerr Black Hole with it's "Ring Singularity"!

BUT, the alternative theory...QSSC don't believe that Black Holes and singularities even exist, SO who was the onus on to falsify the "Naked Singularity" "inside solution" of a FLRW EFE 'expanding' with "Inflation" Grapefruit sized ('sphere'ical cow") after T= 10 ^-35 secs???

SO, it really is pretty simple, once you understand it, that a "Point Singularity" cannot even exist, inside or outside of any black hole.

SO all of the expanding or contracting "horizons" or even that special case of perfectly tuned "Spherical" (Cow) universe....Einsteins original lambda, have NEVER even had the possibility of existing....


BUT, can any mainstream cosmologist admit this, and have a good portion of what has been developed since 1929, when LeMaitre and Friedmann came up with their Schwarzschild solution?

Critical Density for the universe as a whole simply does NOT exist!!!

AND, this is NOT the only problem, is it??? NO NO NO

SR, VS an aboslute space....that is space traveling everywhere at a constant "c"/ Aether has been at issue for over 100 years. AND, the alternative to SR is what is "Real" Physical Space, Just as the Only "Real" physical singularities are the "Ring Singualrities" in SMBH's, which is where that "Aether"/Quantum Gravity comes from!!!!

NOW< if you don't believe this, just do this...

ALL of the most knowledgeable...ie, Tim Thompson, KenG, Publius, Grant Hutchinson

ALL of you just do your physics from four different galaxies in our observable universe all at vastly different directions and distances from the Milkey Way.

Two things will definitely happen....

1. Because SR really only has the "speed of light in it's own frame" as 'instananeous at any distance' when it is 'going away from us', the 'observer' (ie; When the 'space ship takes off at "c" for Alpha C, it gets their instaneously, BUT when it or light takes off from Alpha C to us, it takes 4 light years to reach us), when you try to reproduce this from your galaxy, say 5 or 10 biilion light years away, it will be opposite for all of you to being here on earth.

2. According to BBT(s) and Inflation, every observer in the universe is at the center of his own "Grapefruit", SO, each one of you at your location in your galaxy, will have to INSIST that the universe, if it were in a big crunch MUST be 'shrinking down to your' T=0 or T= 10^-35 "Point" location.

I know, you can't let all of cosmology come tumbling down in one fell swoop, AND trying to figure out what to switch off to mathematically is huge!!!

The problem,,,,,Describing how the universe is working mathematically is FAR more difficult than anyone has ever realized!!!

The "real Problem" is that SR is based on definitions at the Division by 0, and ultimately so is the expanding/contracting down to 0 BBT.

There is one more that has the same Division by 0 problem, but I will leave that alone for now.

Everytime that Richard/Publius has said that doing anything in KERR is hugely problematic, is only the tip of the iceburg.

Also, descrining the universe 'geometrically' has been shown to be extremely "Consistent" in the MATHS, BUT that is NOT how the universe is "REAL" ly working!!!

In fact, this is the reason that Gravity is SO misunderstood....How WEAK is gravity "REALLY"...you will be surprised!

ETA: would a Mod please fix the title of this post.

It should have read....There can ONLY be ONE

Thanks