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Yes, easily measured if one was looking for that. Enlighten me as to if anyone has actually done a global analysis using and array of GPS looking for expansion?
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Also, according to EE Theory, expansion has only been occurring for the last 200my, at least evidenced by ocean crustal age. This amounts to (at claimed rate) Assumed mass gain from TS numbers -26,280,000,000,000,000,000 Mass of Earth (present, tons) -6,580,000,000,000,000,000,000 This is less than 1% gain in mass @ 2 tons every 8 minutes for 200my. The Sun ejects 6.7 billion tons of mass every hour (Wiki). If, lets say, even .0001% of this mass encounters Earth, that is 670,000 tons of charged particles impacting Earths magnetosphere every hour. Now, big assumption, but IF there is some kind of new physics allowing even some of those charged particles to accrete at Earth's core, there would be your hypothetical mechanism. Who knows, maybe the LHC will reveal something supportive. About as likely as finding dark matter.
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Total Science: Have someone else do the math for you if you can't.
No, why don't YOU show us the math. (Wish I would have seen that post before I did that above^) I am curious if you can even coherently represent even hypothetically what you are talking about.
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If there is one these events happening every 8 minutes, that's 365.25*24*60/8 = 65745 such events per year. If there are 1,000,000 tonnes of stuff coming in and sticking to the Earth, that's 65745*1,000,000 = 65,745,000,000 tonnes per year. If this has been happening for 4,600,000,000 years, then 3.0242x1020 tonnes have been added this way. The present mass of the Earth provided by Google Calculator is 5.9742 x 1024 kg, or 5.9742 x 1021 tonnes. So, 3.0242x1020 / 5.9742 x 1021 = 0.0506 or about 5.1% of the current mass of the Earth. Under such a scenario the original mass of the Earth would have been 0.949 that of today. If the density of the new stuff is the same as what was there to begin with (for lack of a better estimate), then the Earth's diameter would have been 0.9491/3 = 0.983 its present diameter. So much better than mine.... ![]()
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Just like the Creationists over on Talk.Origins
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That must be a horrific place to visit...
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you have no idea!
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Also, why have you suddenly jumped to charged particles? Only a couple of posts back you were talking about neutrinos (uncharged and neutral, hence the "neut" part of the word neutrino.) What is it that you are proposing ends up in the core? |
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LOL! My thoughts exactly.
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I don't think Total Science knows what the mechanism is or couldbe, he doesn't seem to even have a consistent idea just some vague suggestions of expansion.
Please TS give us a concise summery of your ATM idea and what you consider to be evidence supporting it. Please do this in your own words and not with a list of random links to websites. I want to know what your idea/theory is, n ow what someone else has on a website somewhere.
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Let's imagine that every single bit of that 6.7 billion tons/hr of stuff is confined to the ecliptic plane, but is spread uniformly in all directions on that plane. That would represent a major concentration of stuff compared to what actually happens. The circumference of the Earth's orbit around the Sun is about 940,000,000 km. Its diameter at the equator is 12,756 km. So, every hour, in this extreme, contrived model, 12,756 / 940,000,000 x 6,700,000,000 = 90,920 tons of stuff from the Sun arrive at Earth. In a year that's 365.25 x 24 x 90920 = 797,008,450 tons, or ~8x108 tons This number is 8x108tons / 6.5745x1010tonnes x 0.91 tonne/ton = 0.011 or 1.1% of the earlier calculation that used an arbitrarily large 1 million tonnes every 8 minutes and could only account for 5.1% of the Earth's current mass in 4.6 billion years. Are you following this Total Science? While I may suffer embarrassment if my calculations are wrong, please feel free to correct me. And, I'll second captain swoop's comment. Having watched that video linked in the OP, I suspect that Total Science believes that Ganymede has grown in volume - somehow - by ~30% in the "recent" (define?) past, and this accounts for the appearance of the smoother areas of its surface compared to the older, darker, and more cratered area. |
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