I'm afraid you have it the wrong way around -

the practice of science (observation, experiment) is objective -
"belief structures", or faith-based truths, are subjective,
and have no place in science ...

while neither science nor faith are infallible, when the objective evidence warrants it,
science will accommodate it and amend the body of knowledge...

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Can you explain what the word subjective means?

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When I originally posted on this board I didn't know I was posting at a scientific community forum. If I would have known, which I should have, I would not have proceeded to post on this forum.

I am not an expert in none of these things and I am not a good communicator that's for sure.

I have no interest at all in argument I just believe differently that's all, and I don't think I will continue to post, cya guys.

I find it strange that you accept everything in that PDf with no supporting evidence but reject mainstream science that has a evidence.

Where did Samael Aun Weor get the information?

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Samael got that information from the internal worlds, in other words the superior dimensions, which we all have access to them but science completely ignores.

This information was not received from the external 3 dimensional world. But from the internal world by awakening the consciousness through the power of concentration in other words meditation.

An example of awakening your consciousness would be to become completely awake inside your own dreams when you sleep.

Once being completely awake knowing you are in a dream state you have the power to inquire these things, in this state it becomes possible to converse with devas or angels. They can explain and instruct you on these matters or show you.


Let me ask you this question, if all I just said were true and because of the development of your consciousness you had access the superior dimensions and ability to converse with devas or angels.

Who would it be more easy for you to trust? Men of science that have not developed their consciousness, engrossed by the 3 dimensional world. Or superior beings from superior dimensions informing you about the nature of the cosmos?

That answers your questions but I'm sure it raises so many more. But its simple man all I'm saying is that through awakening your consciousness you can arrive at more complete objective knowledge than someone who doesn't develop their consciousness and is engrossed in the 3 dimensional world.

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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A) Objective - Real, spiritual, true, divine, etc.

B) Subjective - Vague, incoherent, not precise, illusory, fantastical, absurd


This is the context in how I'm using them, I understand that it is different than the one more commonly used.

Thats 2 hits in 10 synonym attempts, and not even a precise ones.

No offence, but may I suggest a dictionary, as it seems you dont understand these terms.

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So he saw it in a dream?

OK. I think I am done here.

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man you guys are harsh either way I'm going to go ahead and end the conversation there. I wish you all the best nice meeting you. Good bye.

Bye.

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Hi,

(Just in case you pop by to see what happens after you left...)

I wanted to thank you for the reply to my earlier post, and your continued "good tone" here.

...and leave you with one thought: how would you determine who is "right" if another person came by with the same sort of internal science as Samael Aun Weor but who gave information conflicting with his?

Cheers,

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Hey, that's a good one.

didn't know?
the references to astronomy, etc, are not blatant enough?

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