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Old 05-January-2009, 05:22 PM
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Default Dream Interpretation - ZPF, Universe of Static

Hey everyone. I just have had this thought in my head that I cannot get out that started from a dream I had recently.

I have been reading a lot of books about Zero Point Fields which is what I am attributing to the dream's crazy content. Any thougts or ideas or criticisms to this dream idea would be greatly appreciated.

Basically in my dream I saw the world as if it was static on a television. However, instead of black and white pixels it was actually matter and space that was bouncing back and forth from other dimensions into the one that we experience. The more solid matter was that there is, the more "matter static" is present. So basically as we go through this world, we are just moving through a kind of static that vibrates at such small dimensions and time frames that in normal reality we do not experience it and everything seems smooth. When I woke up from this dream, I felt as though I could actually still "feel" and notice this static as if I was still dreaming.

Needless to say it freaked me out a little bit at the time.

From that dream, and as I lie awake, a thought popped into my head in which I wondered if it were possible to harness the energy of these tiny fluctuations of particles popping to and out of existence. For example, what if we could make probes tiny enough to experience the kinetic energy of the constant fluctuations of the bouncing particles. And if so, would it make more sense to use some sample of the densest matter available to insert the probes (I was thinking diamond, but surely there is denser matter available to us).

Anyhow - I think I am crazy but i just wanted to put this thought out there to see what other people think.

Thanks!
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Old 06-January-2009, 08:01 AM
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You are not crazy but just subject to how the mind actually works. Just like while you are dreaming things "seem" normal enough (very few of us in our dreams think, while dreaming, "this is really strange")

When you wake up the brain still is hard at work rationalizing everything. This means you can still see, hear, smell, taste and even feel things that might not really be there. Your brain is just filling in the gaps to make its current state make a bit more sense. There are well documented cases where people that have had things like a leg amputated will deny their leg is gone. They still "feel" it because of damage to the remaining nerve tissue. Because of this it is thought that they then build up elaborate explanations to reconcile what is going on in their brain.

Many "alien abductions" probably can be attributed to this same effect. People assume if they are awake then their brain can't play the same types of tricks on them as it does when they are sleeping. In some cases you could think of it as better tricks. Normally the brain creates all the things you normally sense while dreaming. If you are awake the brain has to try to reconcile what is actually coming to it from outside to what it is playing around with inside.

I'll give you my own personal experience of this happening to me. While in the USMC I was in NCO school. We had about 20 minutes before the next class started so I decided to take a quick nap. I laid down on my cot and had my right leg hanging off the edge. Now the cot has an aluminum frame. That frame was right where my butt ended and my leg began with the weight of my leg pulling down this was enough to cut off most of the circulation of my leg. Now most people know what happens here. Your limb goes "dead" or "falls asleep". It is numb and you can't do much with it and as the blood rushes back all the nerves give you a feeling of "pins and needles". Well I didn't know my leg fell asleep. Someone said "Hey Francis, its time to go." Being half awake and with the next class on my mind I jumped up to go to class. Well I don't know if you have ever tried to stand when one of your legs is "asleep" but you are just asking for trouble. My other leg not expecting to have to hold and balance my whole body didn't do the job and WHAM fall down at the side of my cot. I quickly try and get back up and did for a second before putting weight on that leg again and WHAM I go down for a 2nd time. It is at this point where my brain kicks in and tries to reconcile what is happening with what it perceives as happening. I look down and I swear to god that I saw a hole in the ground. To me my leg wasn't giving out. My leg was just falling into that hole making me fall. I even said out loud "What the #*$@ is that hole doing there?" and had a few other people, already wondering why I kept falling down, ask me if I was ok. As one of the others came over and started helping me up I started feeling the pins and needles and that hole in the ground faded away.

I actually saw, while awake, something that wasn't there. This is because my brain was trying to rationalize what had happen and in the process invented other sensory stimulus to fit the rationalization.

Welcome to the wonderful world of the mind
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Thanks for your response, Wayne. I have had similar sleeping leg at the end of class scenes (darn boring professors).

I agree with you that the mind is extremely complex and even sometimes misleading.

The question that I did have, though, to anyone who can help is if there is actually any sort of possible validity or science behind what I was thinking/dreaming.

I have read plenty on wide ranging subjects on the nature of the universe which makes me so interested in the interpretation of this thought/idea and the "tv static of matter" possibly in relation to a Zero Point Field, etc. However, since there are so many different theories out there regarding the nature of matter in the universe (and I am by no means an expert, just a casual reader), I was wondering if there is a theory out there that has any type of similarity to this dream/thought.

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Old 07-January-2009, 01:02 AM
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Well it sounds like a merger between the ether theory and a distant relative of string theory the first all but disproved and the 2nd...well string theory is a bit over hyped in my opinion until it can start making testable predictions.

Also be weary of what people call a "theory" even string theory should not really be called a theory as it is not well supported unless you call pretty math well supported but in that case there are interesting "theories" about a lot of things that we've have no evidence of.
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