from GLP:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bb...eek=11/16/2003

Nancy was asked a question

Q4. How is it that Planet X was so dim that no one could see it approaching Earth, yet after may, 2003 it was supposedly so bright that it appears as a second sun, and even competes with the sun in brightness to a degree that we can´t see it occulting the sun?

Nancy answered below ... Can anyone take a stab at explaining this?

Planet X Personas

As has endlessly been discussed during the course of the Planet X viewing seasons, star light is light that has arrived STRAIGHT from the source, but red light tends to bend toward gravity readily. The FACT that red light is different is admitted by the Red Shift phenomena, whereby a stellar object is seen not where it actually is, based supposedly on a delay in the light reaching the viewer. One is either rushing into or away from the source of the red light, thus a difference in intensity. Star light does not have this problem, but is presumably likewise delayed, so red light is DIFFERENT. Beyond this scientific admission is what the common man sees, the just rising or setting Sun fat and huge on the horizon amid the orange light spectrum bending around the globe, the first and last light to be seen from the Sun. Water can refract light, rainbows are evidence that the atmosphere can bend light depending upon its wave length, yet to argue that red light bends more readily, and that the red light specturm is huge, brings screams from establishment scientists sent out to disprove and discredit ZetaTalk.

[Clearly, she doesn't know the diff between refraction and gravity lensing-JJ]

Imagine a rainbow, in space, the spread of the light across a distance based on its tendency to go straight or bend in this or that direction based on this or that influence. For the sake of simplicity, we will avoid assigning spectrums and naming influences. Does man even know the reasons a rainbow spreads in the manner it does, and what influence the atmosphere has on light to effect this? To state that this is water vapor in the atomsphere is simplistic, as this would cause a mini-rainbow at the side of each raindrop, an effect that would cancel out the resulting visible rainbow in the sky. Light bends, differently, based on influences upon the various particles that compose light. Why then would the light form into personas, mostly round, on this or that side of the Sun? A rainbow spreads into a bow, refracted light simply to the side, so why a round object? The obvious answer is that the object it is COMING from is round, just as your foot when viewed in water retains its shape, though appearing bent to the side.

[huh?-JJ]

Monster Sun
The Monster Sun is light that has moved in ALL directions, bend back toward Earth by the gravity trap it represents, from a BROAD area, so when arriving at the viewer represents a broad orb. The Monster, or Mega-Monster as Nancy likes to call it at times, has also been seen recently by naked eye, astonishing the viewers. This is of course not the actual size of Planet X, and because the light forming the Monster is so readily disbursed, it is a dim persona, always.

[say what?-JJ]


Red Persona / Second Sun
Red Persona, which creates an Occulted Sun when close to the Sun or a Second Sun when separate, is the bulk of red light from Planet X, which has bent TOWARD the Sun aggressively and thus appears close to the Sun on all occasions. This of this persona as formed from light that took a boomerang path, moving toward the Sun but diverted almost directly toward the Earth. It moves aggressively toward the strongest gravity field in the immediate vicinity. Why would it head for the Sun and then be diverted, as the Sun is surely the strongest pull? Planet X is riding somewhere between the Earth and Sun, and thus the light from the Red Persona has choice, and moves toward Earth when emerging from Planet X on the blocked side of Planet X, thus is already headed toward Earth. It bends toward the Sun somewhat, but has not made the turnaround before arriving at the viewer.

[Huh?-JJ]

Surround Personas
These cluster closerly around the Sun, are represented in crop circles recently placed in Ohio soybean fields, and are light emerging from moon swirls. The dust cloud captures and disburses sunlight like fog in front of a street light, but to a greater extent as the sunlight is intense, and the dust cloud immense and stretching for long distances toward the Earth. Light normally lost is bounced back and forth in the dust that clusters around moon swirls, so the light arrives as though from a tunnel, to the viewer. In filtered photography, these Surround Personas can be discerned as round, but to the naked eye, the sun is just intensely bright, the glare increased.

[Surround personnas?]

White Persona
This persona, considered during the Fall 2002 CCD Imaging season to be the true size and location of Planet X, turned out to be pink when color photography replaced the black and white CCD Images. It appears small, pink or a small white orb surrounded by a pink dust cloud, and visible only when at some distance from the Sun. When close to the Sun, it gets lost in the glare. The exact location of Planet X in the inner solar system can be discerned by a careful study of photo images of this White Persona, from various spots on the globe, particularly at near-polar latitudes, noting the date and time stamp.


[note that none of the above jabbberwocky, flapdoodle, and jibber jabber answers the original question.]

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Olsen the moderator.

Mosher's translation of what NL is trying to say:

"I don't know what I'm talking about so I'll babble on incomprehensibly for god only knows how long until I lull the listener to sleep from sheer monotony".

It's the old "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****".

Tom

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And the touch of a world that is older

Yeah, I found that exchange a bit...odd...as well.

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Sleep? Isn't that that totally inadaquate substitute for caffeine I've heard so much about?

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Surround Personas? Aren't those the 500 pound guys that encircle the Quaterback to deliver a sack? :-?

Monster Sun? Is that similar to a Monster Truck? A sun with a heavily
modified engine/chassis and shocks? Or is it more like a sun that
has gone nuts and now wants to destroy its creator??

Planet X Personas? PX has mutiple personality disorder???

I'm starting to understand WooWooese.


Ohhh Noooooo!!!!

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Now, this one's funny:

Everything I say is a lie. That proves that I tell the truth. ](*,) #-o

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Standing on the shoulders of giants...

you could always try babel fish. just be ready to pay up if you break (overload, burnout, etc) their engine...

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None to speak of

I asked her a question on the same GLP thread and as thrilling as it was to read her answer...it had NOTHING to do with what I asked.

Its ok, I can't say I was expecting any MORE than I got.

But I agree with tmosher, she just goes and goes until she figures you're so hung up on the blahblah that you stop listening.

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It makes just as much sense if you translate it from English to Spanish and back again!

"As endless it has been discussed during the course of the stations that saw of planet X, the light of the star is the light that has arrived STRAIGHT from the source, but the red light tends to bend easily towards gravity. The FACT that the red light is different is admitted by the red phenomena of the change, by which a stellar object is considered not where it is really, based supposed on delays in the light that the spectator reaches. One is undertaking in or far from the source of the red light, that a difference in intensity. The light of the star does not have east problem, but probably it is delayed in addition, so the red light is DIFFERENT. Beyond this scientific admission it is what sees the common man, the right rise or the sun who fixes fat person and enormous in the horizon in the middle of the orange slight phantom who bends around the globe, of first and last light which they will be seen of the water of the sun can refract the light, the rainbow is evidence that the atmosphere can double the light depending on its wavelength, to discuss yet that the red light bends more easily, and than specturm of the red light he is enormous, brings shouts of the scientists of the establishment sent to refute and to discredit ZetaTalk. "

Maybe it makes even more sense?

Tom

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I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
And the touch of a world that is older

Reminds me of the teacher's voice in the Peanuts cartoons.

Wha wha wa wa wahh wa waa......

A GEM!! Too bad the BABB doesn't support streaming audio!! =D>

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Standing on the shoulders of giants...

i'd vote yes.

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None to speak of

Try running it through altavista's translation program...it starts to read like all the rest of the gibberish that she spouts as you translate it between English, German, Italian, French, Spanish, Portugese and back again.

Tom

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I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
And the touch of a world that is older

Actually, it does seem a little less excruciating to read.

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Olsen the moderator.

I don't understand, John Jones, why you asked for an English translation and then answered your own questions?!

Translation: "I don't understand the difference between refraction and gravity lensing. Huh? Say what? Huh? Surround personas?"

Jabberwocky, flapdoodle, jibber jabber. How much more clear do you need it to be?

Here it is. English to Spanish, Spanish back to English, English to French, French to German, and finally German back to English.

"A rainbow imagines in the area the extension of the light by a distance to go or into fold those on its tendency directly or this management, that is based be based on this or this influence. For the reason of the simplicity we will avoid to assign Phantome and influences require. Humans white even at the reasons the extensions of a rainbow in the kind, which and which he affects, the atmosphere in the light this accomplish must? It emphasizes that she has these years, the steam of the water is in atomsphère simplista, like this at a rainbow of the mini of elbow in the side of each drop water would cause, an effect, which it cancels except the obvious rainbow, which is due to the bends of sky, which is based differently on influences on the repeated particles, which build the light up. Why then would the light in the persons form mainly over, inside or this side of the sun? A rainbow separates simply in an elbow, light refracted edge on board, so much why a round article? Obvious answer is that the article, from which COMES is over, as soon as, like its foot, if one sees it in the water, its form is maintained, although seeming doubles on-board edge. "

You're right, it is more clear.

I needed someone to check my work. Peer-review, and all that. Thanks.

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Olsen the moderator.

I could see this "Transl-o-rama" becoming the latest Internet game. If it isn't already!

Hey tmosher, there's a program called "Babble" which is even more
nuts than "Bablefish" Anyone want a copy?? 8)

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Well, at least this time she used complete sentences.

That doesn't mean she made any sense, just that she made less grammatical errors.

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I think this may be how nancy generate this stuff in the first place. Take an article from a science journal and then run it through every translator, or 'language persona' if you will. Until it becomes completely incoherent. Only then does it sound like Zeta Reticulan.

I'm going to incorporate "personas" and other Nancy babble into some upcomming business presentations I have to see if anyone there spots nancy's influence.

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Good luck on finding a new job..........

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Standing on the shoulders of giants...

LOL!
Hilarious gibberish!
Actually, now I come to think about it, Nancy's loonology seems to be inspired by that master of gibberish, Stanley Unwin.
Except that he did it deliberately trying to amuse people.

Allrighty then...get your Zetababble file here

http://www.ieasysite.com/kwazysci/area51zine_004.htm

Learn to talk (or publish) like Zetaloonies do!!!!

Warning, be sure that a headache remedy is nearby.

Not just for you, but anyone who reads the stuff this thing puts out. 8-[

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