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Old 29-November-2003, 11:12 PM
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Dear Gentle Posters,

I have to ask you something, and hope that this is viewed too by the Bad Astronomer.

I would like to make an extensive posting, which may involve four or five separate topics. The thing is, I have hesitated since coming to the forum because some of you chaps seem to be fairly educated in science, engineering and technology.

I'm just a popular science bookreader.

The thing is, I have formulated a theory. Let's call it a philosophical theory, not a scientific one because for all I know it might be bursting at the seams with impossibilities.

The advantage of that is that, as a non-scientist, I have no reputation to protect, so it doesn't really matter if I make a chump of myself. It also means that I can put a possibly outlandish idea before you and all it will receive is a groan if it's just plain daft.

On the other hand, if by some fluke it's inspirational, someone might be able to grab it and fit in the missing facts.

Also, there might be a faint anti-religious content.

Does the gentle poster and the Bad Astronomer mind if I make such a posting?

Will you at least have a look?

What it is is an idea as to the answer of the question. 'Why is there something and not nothing?'

I think I know.
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Old 29-November-2003, 11:22 PM
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Is it astronomy related? If not, you'd probably be better off putting it in BABBling. Also, the BA doesn't like religious discussion here because it seems to cause problems elsewhere. I think your best bet would be to send a private message to the BA explaining your theory and asking if it's alright to post it.

If he okay's it, I'm fine with it. :wink:
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Old 30-November-2003, 10:05 AM
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Is it astronomy related? If not, you'd probably be better off putting it in BABBling. Also, the BA doesn't like religious discussion here because it seems to cause problems elsewhere. I think your best bet would be to send a private message to the BA explaining your theory and asking if it's alright to post it.

If he okay's it, I'm fine with it. :wink:
Thanks, will do.

It is astronomy related.
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I would be interested in seeing it. -Colt
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Old 30-November-2003, 05:08 PM
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Is there any way you could put it on a website and then post a link?
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Old 30-November-2003, 10:27 PM
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Is there any way you could put it on a website and then post a link?
Possibly, Normandy, give me a couple of days and I will re-post. 8-[
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Excellent. I'm quite looking forward to it, since I too (and I think many of us on the BABB) have ideas about the reason behind the universe and such, but I (as I would hope others are) am open minded and truly enjoy free discussion of ideas.
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Old 01-December-2003, 11:32 AM
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Excellent. I'm quite looking forward to it, since I too (and I think many of us on the BABB) have ideas about the reason behind the universe and such, but I (as I would hope others are) am open minded and truly enjoy free discussion of ideas.
Don't get your hopes up too much!

I'm currently trying to blag some space on a friend's site.

Watch this space!!
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I'm very interested in reading it, although I'm pretty religious. Then again, I have the most bizzare religious beliefs known to man, besides the ones that end up doing the mass suicide thing.
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Old 01-December-2003, 04:55 PM
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I'm very interested in reading it, although I'm pretty religious. Then again, I have the most bizzare religious beliefs known to man, besides the ones that end up doing the mass suicide thing.
Gotta site, Normandy. Will take me two or three days to sort the text out (it's all hard copy)

Tell us about your beliefs, Sister..by mail if you're worried about forum rules.
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Yeah I'm kind of curious now too.
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...I have the most bizzare religious beliefs known to man, besides the ones that end up doing the mass suicide thing.
Well, that's saying something, because, come to think of it, most religious beliefs are remarkably bizarre.

Of course, our universe is rather bizarre, now that you mention it. And the theories describing and explaining our universe would probably fall into that category as well. But the well established theories are backed up and supported by objective and repeatable observations. Nothing too bizarre about that requirement....
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I would like to make an extensive posting, which may involve four or five separate topics.
Personally speaking, such extensive postings tend to turn me off. If possible, I would much rather see four or five separate topics brought up and discussed in four or five separate postings.
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The thing is, I have formulated a theory. Let's call it a philosophical theory, not a scientific one because for all I know it might be bursting at the seams with impossibilities.
Well, philosophies are like, uh, opinions - everybody's got one. If there's no way to discriminate between good ones and bad ones, it's difficult to come to conclusions. Still, I'm curious as to what's on your mind. If your "theory" can't be falsified, you'll certainly hear about it.
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Also, there might be a faint anti-religious content.
Well, I'm with Paul Kurtz, who says....
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"...the desire to seek a kind of accommodation by mutual tolerance is understandable, even commendable. Nonetheless speaking as a secularist and skeptic, I believe this should not preclude others within the community from questioning the claims of Biblical, Koranic, or other absolute faiths, particularly since massive efforts are constantly undertaken by missionaries to recruit members to the fold... This posture is especially questionable given the constant effort by militant religionists to apply their doctrines in the political process, thus seeking to impose their views on others."
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What it is is an idea as to the answer of the question. 'Why is there something and not nothing?'.... I think I know.
Well, going back to your anticipated "extensive posting"....
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"Ernest Rutherford used to advise his students to distrust any concept (or their command of any concept) that they could not explain to a barmaid. Leon Lederman said, 'If the basic idea is too complicated to fit on a T-shirt, it's probably wrong."
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Paul Kurtz is right, but what he says can be applied much more broadly. Its not just militant religious that use the political process to try to impose views. Militant environmentalists do it. Militant supporters of just about any movement you can think of do it. The problem arises not when these political actions are in an effort to establish fairness for all views, but when they are pushed in an effort to elevate their cause at the expense of other views - including the majority.
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I'm very interested in reading it, although I'm pretty religious. Then again, I have the most bizzare religious beliefs known to man, besides the ones that end up doing the mass suicide thing.
Gotta site, Normandy. Will take me two or three days to sort the text out (it's all hard copy)

Tell us about your beliefs, Sister..by mail if you're worried about forum rules.
In a few days, if at all. I'm trying to get a hold of myself so I don't wind up in the mental hospital for the third time this year.
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Sister Ray, if you need someone to talk to or just to listen .. email me: Shj17@aol.com.
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I would like to make an extensive posting, which may involve four or five separate topics.
Personally speaking, such extensive postings tend to turn me off. If possible, I would much rather see four or five separate topics brought up and discussed in four or five separate postings.
Good morning Cougar..that's an American big cat isn't it(?) When I was a kid in the 50s I read a Brit comic called the Tiger..one of the characters was a Seminole wrestler..Johnny Cougar.

Now, I meant to say this in fact WILL just be four or five separate postings, Cougar. I wrote it out wrongly..exalted posters are going to have to be patient with me as I'm just an extremely BAD conputerist. Will try for first posting today.
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Personally speaking, such extensive postings tend to turn me off. If possible, I would much rather see four or five separate topics brought up and discussed in four or five separate postings.
Good morning Cougar..that's an American big cat isn't it(?) When I was a kid in the 50s I read a Brit comic called the Tiger..one of the characters was a Seminole wrestler..Johnny Cougar.

Now, I meant to say this in fact WILL just be four or five separate postings, Cougar. I wrote it out wrongly..exalted posters are going to have to be patient with me as I'm just an extremely BAD conputerist. Will try for first posting today.
Do what you have to do .. hell with Cougar or anyone else that tries to dictate how you post .. it's your show.. just make it good, or at least legible
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Aww... you probably hunt cougars with your big bow and arrows, don't you?
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big bow & arrows? nah .. slay 'em with my sharp tongue. I only go for my quiver when dealing with dangerous game :wink:
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I would like to make an extensive posting, which may involve four or five separate topics.
Personally speaking, such extensive postings tend to turn me off. If possible, I would much rather see four or five separate topics brought up and discussed in four or five separate postings.
Good morning Cougar..that's an American big cat isn't it(?) When I was a kid in the 50s I read a Brit comic called the Tiger..one of the characters was a Seminole wrestler..Johnny Cougar.

Now, I meant to say this in fact WILL just be four or five separate postings, Cougar. I wrote it out wrongly..exalted posters are going to have to be patient with me as I'm just an extremely BAD conputerist. Will try for first posting today.
Do what you have to do .. hell with Cougar or anyone else that tries to dictate how you post .. it's your show.. just make it good, or at least legible
That's OK Archer17.

Any post by Johnny Cougar is good enough for me.

I'm just thankful I get ANY posts on my threads.
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When I was a kid in the 50s I read a Brit comic called the Tiger..one of the characters was a Seminole wrestler..Johnny Cougar.
By Manitou! That takes me back. When I was a kid in the 70s I read that comic (by then it had merged with another comic to become Tiger and Jag) and Johnny Cougar was still in it. Remember Skid Solo and Martin's Marvellous Mini?

Ah, those were simpler times....
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When I was a kid in the 50s I read a Brit comic called the Tiger..one of the characters was a Seminole wrestler..Johnny Cougar.
By Manitou! That takes me back. When I was a kid in the 70s I read that comic (by then it had merged with another comic to become Tiger and Jag) and Johnny Cougar was still in it. Remember Skid Solo and Martin's Marvellous Mini?

Ah, those were simpler times....
No, Tiger and Jag was after my time.

But I DO remember Jet-Ace Logan and Plumduff Charteris, the best space-men ever.

I wonder if they'll come up on Google....? :-?
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We've got a cougar in our house. Her name's Misty and she rips up my feet with her claws.

What was a Manitou?

I digress...got the first part of the Chelmsford Theory posted on other site. Will do the link in the morning. I'm tired!! ops: #-o
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Ha, Chemlsford Theory. Sounds so noble.
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Oh it ain't, Normandy!

But thanks for taking so much interest.
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Manitou was Johnny Cougar's god. By Manitou was his favourite interjection. Maybe they only introduced that in the 70s.
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What was a Manitou?
Manitou was Johnny Cougar's god. By Manitou was his favourite interjection. Maybe they only introduced that in the 70s.
I think there was a bit more to it than that, or else 'Manitou' will have been invented by the British writer of Johnny Cougar!

We need to talk to a Native American person. Any on the forum?

My Mum once got given a Native American name on a visit to Canada.

Princess Standing-by-the-Pole.
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Good morning, Ladies and Gentlemen,

As I said at the start of this thread I would like to post the bare bones of a philosophical theory, which hopes to illustrate why there is matter in the Universe. Matter as opposed to complete nothingness.

I have called it The Chelmsford Theory, after the town in which I live.

In deference to the Bad Astronomer and rules of the forum, and under advice from other members, I have decide to post the Theory on another site with links for you to gain access.

The reason for this is that there is some reference to religion in the Theory, which is banned on the Bad Astronomy site.

Please DO NOT access these links if you are a deeply religious person.

My first posting is just a single page Preface to the Theory, which I put before you partly to test the links(!) just to start with. The rest will follow in a few days. A Second Preface, and the Theory in two parts.

The First Preface raises a topic which I think was discussed a lot in the 19th Century, so it's possibly a bit old, but I don't know if any conclusion was reached. Certainly it provoked a negative reaction on a religious site where it was previously posted.

As I am the worst computer user in the world (I can't even figure out how to use my disc drive) this may not work very well, so I include two links. The first is the message board site. Go to 'Listings' then 'Education' ( ) then scroll down to the bottom, 'The Chelmsfordites.'

http://www.instantmessageboards.com

The link which should take you straight there is this collection of digits;

http://instantmessageboards.com/view...php?t=10309078

For some reason I can't quite finish the page, so it tails off a bit. I suspect the site are economical with the words that can be written down ( I haven't studied the instructions too closely, but will) so I may need a few more postings.

All comments, no matter how scathing, will be welcome. Don't forget to post comments pertaining to religion over there and not down here.

With thanks to the Bad Astronomer.
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